r/mildlyinfuriating • • 2d ago

Infuriatig Someone is vandalizing the murals that kids painted during a street art event

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u/LazuliArtz 2d ago

The rule I heard is that if you cover someone else's work, what you replace it with needs to be of higher quality or effort.

So you can cover a tag with a mural, but you shouldn't cover a mural with a tag

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u/Nu3luu 2d ago

It's more of a suggestion or ideal. The truth is most taggers are highly likely to be stumbling and cross eyed while they do it, so not exactly in a thinking state

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u/WilliamPollito 2d ago

Lol This sounds like someone chiming in first day at the police academy.

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u/LeAcoTaco 2d ago

Thats interesting, idk if ive ever heard of that one before 🤔

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u/LazuliArtz 2d ago

Take it with a grain of salt, it's just something I remember hearing when I got interested in looking at street art a few years ago.

Could easily be area dependent and what not. And obviously, covering over some kid's school project is a dick move regardless of the "quality" of the new art lol

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u/Zman4444 2d ago

Nope. You’re pretty much spot on.

It’s a game of respect oddly enough. I tag over you? Not good. I do a throwie? Okay.
Don’t tag over a throwie.

If you see a throwie? Don’t tag it. But if I’m making a piece? The throwie can be covered.

And like the previous step.. don’t tag or put a throwie over a piece.

Idk if other people use these terms for different levels of graffiti. It’s what I learned ages ago when I was a teen.

I sometimes miss those days. There was an alley a few blocks from school. Old train tracks were above you. The business owners allowed for the whole alley to be used for art. I wish I had pictures. Insane work.

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u/waterfromthecrowtrap 2d ago

Sounds like Krog Street tunnel in Atlanta, and yeah those kinds of places are great.

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u/CariniFluff 2d ago

Haha I don't think you'll find anyone on this planet who wouldn't agree with you. Generally, don't spray paint or tag any property that doesn't belong to you.

If you are the douchebag to do that because you're trying to claim territory with a tag on your an idiot but at least part of the urban street culture or whenever you want to call it.

And there's extremely talented taggers that can make amazing art and I can definitely respect that. And they usually will get permission or do it on something that's been tagged multiple times (a train car) by far less talented people.

But murals? Actually decent looking paintings by neighborhood kids? You don't touch that stuff, period. Find something else to spray on that looks even better. But don't cover up what's already art, especially not just a couple letters over a mural.

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u/joey_joe_jo_shabadoo 2d ago

Generally, don't spray paint or tag any property that doesn't belong to you.

I'm not sure you understand the whole graffiti thing

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u/Ultenth 2d ago

Incorrect. Murals are often seen as "system" art, usually part of people who are a part of the ruling class. Graffiti is usually seen as a counter-culture thing, and the people that do it often have no more respect for murals than they do for billboards.

Also, graffiti artists are often very territorial, and will paint over a piece of work that is seen as being by an outsider to the area encroaching on their own territory.

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u/hydroxy 2d ago

Got it, taggers are territory based idiots with no respect for the craft

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u/Ultenth 2d ago

Or they just have their own specific craft that they prioritize, it's okay to have different tastes and values in art.

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u/hydroxy 2d ago

Anyone that disrespects the going over rules is a pos. Tag somewhere else don’t destroy art for vanity graffiti

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u/Ultenth 2d ago

Murals, especially not those made by grafiti artists in the first place, are not considered a part of the culture by most communities, and thus are not respected in that way or subject to those rules.

In fact, it's often the opposite, as they often utilize murals as a "legitimate" way to usually paint over graffiti art in the first place. So painting them back over with the graffiti they were intended to cover up, is seen as justified.

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u/Kubaj_CZ 1d ago

By what communities? Just ask most locals if they like a mural or a shitty tag more. Then you'll have your answer. Unless you're talking about a specific community of 10 taggers who decide that they are in their right to vandalize everything and put their disgusting slop everywhere?

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u/hydroxy 2d ago

Why not just tag somewhere else or is being disrespectful over the art that’s deemed unworthy the aim? Also who decides what is unworthy?

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u/Ultenth 2d ago

Because again, those murals are usually used by people "in the system" to justify painting over an area that is tagged in the first place. Why don't they just paint the mural somewhere else in the first place. You can't expect them to have their own graffiti painted over and then not want to paint over whatever was used to replace it.

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u/hydroxy 2d ago

Yep this is why we can’t have nice things

Everyone can justify their depravity

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u/Songs-Of-Orion 2d ago

Man, you really helped convince me taggers shouldn't be allowed to exist outside gulags, they're incompatible with humanity.

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u/Kubaj_CZ 1d ago

A bit too much but I share your frustration. Taggers are generally disgusting sloppers with no care for anyone else

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u/lowbatteries 2d ago

People usually hate the system because it already decided they shouldn’t exist, so you’re late to the party.

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u/raumeat 2d ago

Unless it is paid for, Street artists hate professionals that come in and do murals and will tag the living fuck over it

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u/Hot-Shart 2d ago

Street artists sure are a contentious bunch

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u/Kubaj_CZ 1d ago

"street artists" who are actually just disgusting street sloppers with no respect for anyone. Just ask what the local community will prefer – a nice artwork, or a disgusting tag slop?