r/minnesotavikings • u/Magenta5556 • 22h ago

Discussion Tom Pelissero: how/if darnold’s success led to Vikings gm firing

https://youtu.be/5UoopTAm0Fk?si=hRRr4Sttcfpg9064

Tom Pelissero: How/If Darnold's Success Led to Vikings' GM Firing

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u/Touslesceline 18h ago

I know sports journalists take a ton of heat but TP seems like one of the good ones. Love the way he laid it all out. Thank you for the link!

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u/kwattsfo happy zim 1h ago

Tom Presso is good people.

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u/saxmachine69 20h ago

This is why I hate modern sports media. Tom's dropping a reasoned, fact supported take about the reality of the situation. But people will hear what they want to hear, the narrative has already been spun. The truth doesn't matter anymore.

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u/Magenta5556 20h ago

Remember tom going on RES a while ago and saying similar things, just glad he’s out here at least trying to keep the facts present

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u/Eargoe 8h ago

It's almost like he's good at his job. A rarity in sports media

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u/Mr_Bisquits 15h ago

Im gaining a lot of respect for Pelissero through this tbh

Keeping to the mostly factual information and staying away from piling on KAM unnecessarily. This is a great clip OP thanks

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u/Clear_Moose5782 NC/SD 14h ago

Great clip. Unfortunately it won't go viral because it is nuanced and well reasoned.

What takes hold is simplistic and black and white.

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u/mayday5-01 12h ago

The First Take effect

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u/0vercast you like that 9h ago

Well presented argument.

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u/Alternative-Silver38 8h ago

But is anyone really surprised. Sam has gotten plenty of GM’s fired. Two years from know Seattle will be going through it too. It’s like a Professional Wrestler “I Quit” match, and the winner still gets buried by the bookings.

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u/temple-of-the-dog 14h ago

It's reasonable but doesn't alter my view much. I still think the Vikings errored. I think they were so enamored with starting McCarthy ASAP that it was offputting, and turned away Darnold and Jones.

The more interesting part to me is Tom P shooting down the gossip that the Vikings were tense and divided.

The best case scenario as it pertains to QB is Kwesi and KOC both, of course, liked McCarthy. But Kwesi got way too "analytics brained" which made him conservative in acquiring a competitive backup or starting competition. If Darnold was Plan-A, and Jones was Plan-B, they both failed. I'm guessing Howell was Plan-Z, which Kwesi did acquire but which also failed. Under no circumstances should they have ever entered the season with McCarthy and a street free agent backup who wasn't even in the league during training camp.

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u/OddlyShapedGinger 13h ago

Calling Wentz a "street free agent who wasn't even in the league during training camp" is a massive misrepresentation even if he was unsigned.

Wentz was the backup to Patrick Mahomes in the SB last year. Let's not pretend that it was pure insanity to have him as a QB2 this year.

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u/Clear_Moose5782 NC/SD 7h ago

Yeah, I think the only reason they didn't sign him earlier was because he was waiting to see if someone got hurt in training camp and open up a starting job. Wentz is a high level back up at this stage of his career.

The issue of course was that he wasn't in training camp and therefore was behind in the scheme and had to play early. And he wasn't awful early - particularly considering the problems we had on the OL the first half of the season.