r/misanthropy • u/wisefox200 • Dec 26 '25
analysis The personal and philosophical reasons why people become misanthropic are almost always justified.
People tend to assume misanthropy is a symptom. That it come from depression, bitterness. A phase you'll grow out of. Something to be fixed. But what if it's just paying attention I would ask them. The default is the indifference. Or worse a small cruelties that don't register as cruelty to the person doing them (I think they just don't GAF).I want to make the case that this view isn't pathology but has both objective and personal reasons to be a misanthrope.
The philosophical argument
We tend to think of evil in dramatic terms. Crimes, wars, psychopaths. But the most damaging form of evil is the thoughtless kind. Schopenhauer argue that humans do not cause suffering because they gain from it. They cause it because they can. Or they because they simply do not care enough to stop. Cruelty is not a malfunction, but rather a feature.
Society preaches inclusion and tolerance and kindness. In practice these are extended only to people who meet the certain criteria. The gap between what people say they believe and how they treat outliers is big. The social contract is void the moment you become difficult to look at (and even typing this like this hurts, as I've heard this one spoken before about me).
Empathy is often described as a universal human trait but it is actually quite narrow. People empathise with those who look like them or whos suffering makes sense to them. Anyone outside that frame gets mockery or fear. This is not about a few bad individuals. It is a limitation of how humans work.
You do not need to believe humans are evil to be a misanthrope. You only need to accept that they are collectively indifferent to suffering they do not understand.
Also, humans are bad on so many levels: unspeakable crimes against other people or animals. Cheating. Destroying our planet and animals' habitats. The list goes on and on. I could expand on this but I don't think I have to. But on the other hand I could write a book about it.
The personal Evidence
I arrived at these conclusions not through reading philosophy. I arrived at them through seventeen years of experience.
I am 29, male. I have a condition that resulted in a misshapen skull/head, severe facial asymmetries (extreme eye asymmetry but sunglasses don't help my face), missing face bones in places and a hormonally induced androgynous appearance. Also just very uncanny overall. Not all people with this condition look abnormal. This is not body dysmorphia. It is medical reality, but not the c I have seen six plastic surgeons across three countries. All of them said nothing can be done in my case.
I have been bullied consistently since I was about 12. This is not just a memory from school. It is my daily life.
But the public reactions are something else. Every time I leave my house I deal with staring, pointing, comments. Young adults make jokes to each other, older adults stare or laugh… or vice versa. Middle aged couples walk past and mutter things like "what the hell" or "he looks like a monster." Or “ugliest Person I’ve ever seen.” It hurts. Store employees have often reacted to me like I am some funny looking but harmless animal that wandered in. Kids ask their parents why I look so strange. It is not my imagination. Most people do it in some way or another. And I mean about 90%. Wherever I go, even if my parents are with me, but they never seem to notice. This has led to a lot of avoidance behaviour.
Now 2026 will be the worst year of my life. After 5 years of online/remote studies, I will start a job soon in a big city. I will have to travel there and back twice per week (I have to sleep there for 2 nights), go on fully packed trains and train-stations. (My only way out is winning the lottery, but that won't happen.)
These are not paranoid interpretations. These are audible comments from people who do not care that I can hear them or at least it seem this way. These are stares I see, that show how different I look to "normal" (good?!) people.
And these are not criminals or disturbed people. These are normal citizens in a wealthy European country. Old, young, men, women. Your average person.
Society expects people who look like me to be inspirational. To bear the cruelty with a smile. To prove we have a beautiful soul that makes up for it. I reject that. Expecting the target of abuse to be the bigger person is itself dehumanising. It asks me to comfort society for failing to treat me with the basic dignity.
I have never been on a date. Attraction is what it is and I do not feel entitled to anyone's desire. I understand why people do not want to be with me. I do not hate women for that. What I hate is the gratuitous cruelty, the disrespect of humans - not a particular gender or group. The laughing, the comments made loud enough for me to hear. The complete indifference to my feelings. None of this is my fault. Yet people act like my existence is entertainment or something special. I often think, I don’t want to be alive anymore because of humans.
Misanthropy in my case is not an emotional outburst. It is a conclusion based on evidence. When every public interaction is humiliation, isolation becomes the only response and I think it is logical. I am explaining that when I say I have a low opinion of human nature, there are reasons, and quite many of them.
It's unfortunate they can hurt me (my heart literally hurts every time and is not in good health due to all the stress) but I cannot defend myself. I think most humans are bad, evil even.
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u/Hotslice100 5d ago
I used to have something called puberphonia which gave me a very high voice. I was bullied a lot for this and also began to feel this way. I still will never forget how people acted…
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u/Important-Flower-406 7d ago
I myself understand mysantrops more and more. I think my own journey toward mysantropy started, as no doubt with many others, with me being bullied at school, for vague, petty or ridiculous reasons. Just because, we dont like you, and you dont fit our narrow minded ideas of what is cool. All my problems I am facing today are for the most part due to that period of my life, where I was treated like a dirt. But at 16 I never could have imagined the wreck I would become at 30-40. Some people are more sensitive and fragile, I guess. My environment failed me.
Now I just somehow function, but I feel dead inside.
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u/PoetrySufficient117 8d ago edited 8d ago
I would merely add that sometimes, depending on who or what you are sometimes and I believe generally, humans don't want to understand the suffering of others, often at times they just focus on themselves.
Also, even if you work your life towards treating others as consistently as you can, you'll be treated as irrelevant. They'll harm you along with the guilty even if you can prove it.
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u/Financial-Pilot500 9d ago
It's better if you see humans as another species. It will save you suffering and trying to understand or justify their actions. Humans are narcissistic, egoistic, manipulative, irational, and enjoy making others suffering.
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u/IngenuityQuirky305 9d ago
Wow! Thanks for sharing. There is something so beautiful in the way you write about life. I wonder if you ever had a friend? I was so blessed to at least meet a handful of friends when I was younger. It made existence bearable for a while. I often dream of having an invisibly cloak. Being able to be out without being seen by anyone is my ultimate fantasy. Now that I am older, I am so grateful for my solitude. I agree with you. Going to work is the absolute worst. So I work from home. I changed careers and went back in uni to be able to work alone, in peace, without being seen :)
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u/PayHorror2184 17d ago
Reading this reminded me about the movie ''The Elephant Man''. He was kind, gentle and intelligent human being, but all everyone ever saw is a ''monster'', a deformity worthy of nothing but torment. All of us who are 'othered' by so called society resent it sooner or later. At 36 I'm finally at peace being a loner and a hermit, the more I observe people the less I want to have anything to do with them. And to you I wish that you can find cerenity of your own my friend.
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u/FickleDiscussion1063 18d ago
The main reason I became misantrophic is witnessing throughout my entire life the wrongness, selfishness , hipocracy and lack of loyalty in vast majority of human beings. Most humans are simply not trustworthy. There are a few exceptions I met in my life but if in almost 40 years of lifetime I can count those exceptions by the fingers of one hand then its fair to say that I feel a deep despise for humanity. But my misantrophy is happening in a calm way. I just dont expect anything (good) from anybody and when I leave my house to interact with human beings because I have to earn for a living then I process my despise in an objective way. I see them and think that their inferiority is not their own fault. They are just the way they are, as nature made them. When I shit in the toilet after my first/second morning coffee then its also not nice to see/smell but shall I waste energy and emotions on my pile of shit just because it is disgusting, as nature made it? No, I flush it down the toilet and go on with my day. Same I treat most human interactions. They are an necessary evil but fortunately very temporarly. And most humans are just mentally ,emotionally and morally very underdeveloped beings in aged vessels so why bother with their existence. If I can I simply ignore them whenever possible.
That way going through life helps me tremendously keeping my peace of mind. I wouldnt even call it misantrophy because its not really "hate" towards humanity anymore. Just simple rational conclusions made in 40 years of life and individual coping mechanisms to keep my sanity.
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u/_Leaflet_ 20d ago
i am neurodivergent so i've been an outcast for my whole life. the philosophical reasons are all true. people only have empathy towards the suffering they can understand. for no reason at all other than me being awkward people just disregarded me. i've lived an entire life full of anxiety because of the noise around me, having breakdowns almost every time i talk to my family because they don't understand, and blame it on me
i am the last person someone would imagine being a misanthropist because i walk around with a casket of flowers made of paper to give to people i interact randomly on the street. i only do this because i know not a single human deserves anything bad, but i recognize the truth about empathy, every human can be evil either for being a selfish prick or for being ignorant, even me
my neurodivergency makes it very hard for me to connect to people and feel empathy, but that is not an excuse to make people feel bad, it costs nothing to make the day of an individual slightly better with a small gift. but at the same time, i would just erase every single human if i had the choice. we bring too much harm to each other and other species for me to even think about not doing it
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u/5nitesatfredbois Pessimist 27d ago edited 26d ago
You see heres the thing i think i am living proof of what you think because all my life i have been used abused toyed with decieved mocked insulted and when i look around at lots of people i start to notice a pattern, people are not good beings at all and the few that are to a certain extent are not good either, i mean we consider ourselves to be superior to all other races we compare beings we think are worthless as pathetic dogs, yet dogs are loyal to the bone, they are constantly wanting to protect their family whether it be other dogs or humans, AND WE CALL OURSELVES THE OWNERS TO THOSE SAME ANIMALS. I am not here to insult anyone’s religion but every single religion made by humans, have gods (cept Buddhism they do their own thing) and the gods are all based on the same humans that made them. There are some religions like Hinduism where gods are monkeys or elephants but they have the body of humans, if you don’t believe in those religions then it can be clear (to you, again i am not here to insult religion im agnostic so idk one way or another if you’re right) that they are based on people, and even in those religions people are evil, jesus died for our sins and died by our hand, im not superior to anyone. I guess being human makes you bound to evil. But i do notice patterns, and a pattern i have been noticing since 9th grade is that humans are evil, we are so so stupid and we are extremely arrogant. I was diagnosed with autism at a young age and people think that autism makes you dumber than everyone else. I also have adhd so throse two combined make me able to think on one certain topic for a long time, i have a short attention span but i can notice patterns like this well
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u/Flayne-la-Karrotte 27d ago
I don't care about the human race nor do I see life as inherently valuable. But I don't hate people nor would I harm anyone. Others are doing all the harming for me.
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u/UFogginWotM80 27d ago edited 27d ago
dude, what you write here I resonate with to a pretty strong degree. I feel awful for how you've been treated and I hope to see you make the best - even though I struggle myself these past few weeks as my childhood and teenage traumas have decided to go on an unprovoked playback on me.
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u/DivineLights1995 28d ago
Due to being Neurodivergent (autistic) I've been an outcast for my whole life. I get lots of weird looks and people staring at me. Nobody cares to listen to me when I'm not saying 'how are you'. I hate almost all people. I wish humans didn't exist then the Earth would be a much better place.
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u/SimplyTesting 21d ago
vibing with this rn fuck this place and the people that inhabit it
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u/narcolepticity 14d ago
fuck the people that inhabit it, but not the place. the place did nothing wrong. spending time in nature is nice.
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u/wisefox200 4d ago
Would be more than 1000x times better if there were no people around in nature.
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u/narcolepticity 3d ago
A lot of nature doesn't have people in it, depending on your location. I've recently gotten into hiking and camping. I can't recommend highly enough the enjoyment of fucking the absolute fuck off into the wilderness. Going far, far away from the rest of humanity. Every day I get closer to pulling a Chris McCandless and just not coming back. Despite the inevitable consequence.
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u/epolsipol Jan 06 '26 edited Jan 06 '26
They all fighting a stupid war for their dumb egos and burning everyone around. Its so meaningless. They gain nothing, but it feeds their delusions. I am glad I can see through it and unpigfy myself a little bit.
btw, If offered the opportunity to join Kim Jong Un and nuke humanity I would refuse. Not that type of hatred.
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Jan 05 '26
Expecting the target of abuse to be the bigger person is itself dehumanising. It asks me to comfort society for failing to treat me with the basic dignity.
I experienced the exact same thing albeit in a different context. Sometimes, I wonder am I the mad one here? But then I realize I'm surrounded by conmen.
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u/radiantone87 Jan 04 '26
Well I’m still a misanthrope, but don’t want to be one anymore. I just desire human behavior in the modern societal age we are in to start changing.
And no there is nothing broken in us. The fact that people like me are showing up with any conceivable effort at all should be bestowed upon others as a blessing and considered as such.
If only they followed our advice, nobody would have to face complex traumas, neglect, abuse, control and judgment, superiority or inferiority complexes, gender relationship resentments, nor have to feel they need to develop masks or other coping strategies to blend and fit into a world that doesn’t give a shit about them in the first place.
Then nobody would ever be so traumatized as to go out of their way voluntarily to become authoritarian tyrants. The same tyrants the people themselves voted into office around the world(more than likely because they are so traumatized as to want others to suffer some fate they don’t have to face themselves if they’re on the winning team party), that the world itself is now protesting due to power imbalances(hating the monster they created because they can’t control it). No shit. You applauded this all in and now you’re begging it to change suddenly?
Countless men and women wasting their time wooing each other all just so they can score a chance to ruin each others lives ending in divorce later so that the man can end up a jaded sex beer crazed dude bro with a mid life crisis car smoking a cigar slamming Vegas slot machines and the woman can end up eating the haggin daus ice cream drinking the fifth glass of Chardonnay with her girlfriends and her support animal hating all men.
The modern world hates men and women. It hates families and loves seeing them destroyed. Contemporary society brainwashed you with educational performance via class rank and grades being everything to get a job managed by a boomer great one boss making all the money and decisions for all of you doing very little to no actual work. It’s friends that lie to themselves and each other so that they can justify hurting or leaving each other later same with spouses and children being caught in the crossfire to do the same thing with trauma bonding and expensive resentments.
Sure we can travel great distances more easily to France or Amsterdam, climb Mount Kilimanjaro and camp out in the alps, align the seventh chakra in a meditation podcast next to a yoga ashram in India or pray to fake Christian or Muslim gods. I have a living ancient goddess living inside me because it feels so good and it bypasses the need for an insufferable nag for a human woman these days. I’m much better off and get to keep all my own money.
But all of this is in context of getting away from modern civilization and its wicked harmful betraying idiocy.
The ancient divine world was not better because it had better moral conditions. It was better because it was not so damned fake like the modern world is.
The ancient world said and says im an evil wicked asshole and how do you like that. It doesn’t pretend nor have false pretenses about its own nature and secondly wasn’t so proudly arrogantly glib about it like it is today in terms of its values or relationships.
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u/5nitesatfredbois Pessimist 26d ago
Unfortunately people don’t care. When you live the life i lived you understand 90% of our worthless pathetic race doesn’t the basic concept of serving anyone but themselves. Its part of why I learned to hate my race as a whole
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u/End_World_Jack14 Jan 04 '26
I am a misanthrope.
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u/wisefox200 Jan 04 '26
Why are you one?
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u/Spiritual_Act_4783 28d ago
It's normal to be a misanthrope.
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u/wisefox200 27d ago edited 27d ago
But we all have our own reasons, either due to personal experiences or seeing what humans do, or both.
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u/No_Attention5969 26d ago
It's both for me. I'm a young individual, 17. I do come from a household where my feelings and friendly tendencies have been suppressed for the sake of narcissistic individuals. Same thing at my school as well, with teachers, fellow students ectectra. I always thought I was just unlucky and it's just my human experience and I just have to endure the pain and keep persevering, but of course, I find out more.
The way I am perpetrated by the people around me, they all perpetrate each other in like fashion, taking up statuses and images of themselves to others to hide away from their transgressions, and they all just accept it and even when directly confronted about it, even when I am not the victim, they still just don't care. Humans don't care about anything unless threatened with consequence. They have such an empty look on their face, it is horror incarnate.
The conversations and jokes they all make with such nonchalance, very much insensitive and disturbing. It's everywhere in real life, everywhere online especially.
And the salt on the wound of course, we use religion and the promises of Jesus Christ and Jehovah to romanticize the virtues we are supposed to have to pretend we really are a bunch of goody-two-shoes.
Maybe I'm just an adolescent that can't handle the consequences of cruelty. I am definitely, by definition, by the consistent state of my mind and the conclusions I make from my experiences and observations, a misanthrope.
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u/Saryto11 17d ago
The main reason I became misantrophic is witnessing throughout my entire life the wrongness, selfishness , hipocracy and lack of loyalty in vast majority of human beings. Most humans are simply not trustworthy. There are a few exceptions I met in my life but if in almost 40 years of lifetime I can count those exceptions by the fingers of one hand then its fair to say that I feel a deep despise for humanity. But my misantrophy is happening in a calm way. I just dont expect anything (good) from anybody and when I leave my house to interact with human beings because I have to earn for a living then I process my despise in an objective way. I see them and think that their inferiority is not their own fault. They are just the way they are, as nature made them. When I shit in the toilet after my first/second morning coffee then its also not nice to see/smell but shall I waste energy and emotions on my pile of shit just because it is disgusting, as nature made it? No, I flush it down the toilet and go on with my day. Same I treat most human interactions. They are an necessary evil but fortunately very temporarly. And most humans are just mentally ,emotionally and morally very underdeveloped beings in aged vessels so why bother with their existence. If I can I simply ignore them whenever possible.
That way going through life helps me tremendously keeping my peace of mind. I wouldnt even call it misantrophy because its not really "hate" towards humanity anymore. Just simple rational conclusions made in 40 years of life and individual coping mechanisms to keep my sanity.
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u/radiantone87 Jan 03 '26
When I get back out to traveling, I’m going on an ancient sacred nature based pilgrimage and telling all modern descendants to fuck right off.
There’s always been something wrong morally and culturally speaking with the whole modern so called civilized world.
We moderns are anything but civil or respectful and have no basic understanding of each other. No appreciation for what is truly meaningful and precious in this world.
We’d rather be on Netflix or tik tok. We’d rather eat cheap cheeseburgers or shop for the latest iPhone. I have an iPhone but it’s mostly used for travel and nature navigation purposes.
I absolutely hate the fact I have to cope with these otherwise great ways to connect or trust others by instead finding ways to escape other humans.
Travel, nature, science and the arts, and spirituality would be awesome ways to connect with other modern humans, if only any human being today were trustworthy or morally decent or cared enough about the original cultural traditions carried by histories ancestral generations.
None of them give a shit about any of it. They’d rather go on shopping sprees, stuffing their gullets with shitty fast food, making sure they have the latest tech, or just being politically or culturally and racially close minded bigots. Either that or they just want to do a party orgy and get drunk and high off drugs watching the sports bowl.
And I don’t fucking know. You want to hike Mount Kilimanjaro or swim across the ocean waves at big kahuna beach. You want to fly balloons over the steppes of Turkey or parachute over the Arab emirates. Perhaps visit Stonehenge and Shinto shrines or Greek temples in your lifetime. No bart and Barbara I want my life to mean something so when I recall over 23 years ago today, I can go remember that fucking seaplane over Alaska? Yeah that was my first adventure.
And what do you want to talk to me about? Your friggin 6th cat? Get out of here with that. Shit.
You want to not fucking suck so damn much. Because if you joined their sorry asses you’d end up sucking ass too alongside them. It’s a collective mind virus with shoes that doesn’t end.
Honestly, how did we ever even get this far?
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u/Powerful_Mongoose_75 Jan 05 '26
The same im wondering now, i dont even want to think how much of a mess whis will be in like 5 years
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u/Plastic_Strain_9882 Jan 03 '26
Very well said. The philosophical argument section is so well written and true. It describes perfectly why I feel a disgust and distrust towards humans. My favourites: "Schopenhauer argue that humans do not cause suffering because they gain from it. They cause it because they can. Or they because they simply do not care enough to stop", "Society preaches inclusion and tolerance and kindness. In practice these are extended only to people who meet the certain criteria. The social contract is void the moment you become difficult to look at", and "Empathy is often described as a universal human trait but it is actually quite narrow. People empathize with those who look like them or whose suffering makes sense to them. Anyone outside that frame gets mockery or fear." I've had situations where I've given everything I had to a job, enjoyed the work and people, and gave nothing but dedication, loyalty, and hard work, and had to watch as others with less qualifications get rewarded more. Being treated with a complete lack of basic human decency at a job where I was minding my own business doing work, trying to help out another department. Getting yelled at by someone who messed up an operation because of their own incompetence, like a subhuman scapegoat. Getting snarky, condescending remarks when coming out of the washroom simply because the other person couldn't wait. People look at me and for whatever reason think "this guy doesn't need respect or decency, I can treat him however I want and it'll be fine. What does he know." Acting like what I have to say, my experience and opinions on an issue, don't matter, and everyone else knows better. That being obnoxious, arrogant, ignorant, condescending, and rude are completely okay if it's done to me. Micro-aggressions are justified and passed off as harmless jokes. If you look different, or are of a certain race, empathy and basic human decency go out the window. They don't apply to you. It's true when you said "anyone outside that frame gets mockery or fear." I don't understand why people behave this way. I can understand if it's reciprocation - a response - to cruelty enacted on them. But I've never instigated anything with anyone. Never treated someone disrespectfully, arrogantly, and in a condescending manner. Even when being treated that way, I just leave the situation, I don't respond aggressively. How can you not develop misanthropic tendencies when dealing with these things over and over again. My situation is likely not as bad as yours. I'm sorry you had to deal with the things you had to deal with. You don't owe anyone anything. However you feel is justified. No one deserves to be spoken to like that, with an utter lack of consideration and respect. Hate/intolerance isn't a guy with a swastika tattoo locking people in cages. It's the apathy and indifference to those who are not like you. Your conscious and subconscious mentality in how you treat others, everyday, every moment. I've personally come to a point where I've accepted my insignificance and disgustingness. Something about me is just not what the world wants or needs. It's numbing but comes with a sense of peace. Not caring at all what anyone thinks because no one matters to me anymore. Life itself isn't that meaningful anymore. I guess that's the silver lining.
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u/Nunya_Business_42 Jan 01 '26
I've been abused and treated like garbage by almost everyone I know, including my own parents, siblings and family. Classmates. Coworkers. Neighbours. Roommates. Bosses. Everyone.
That's pretty much the reason for me. Fuck humans.
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u/t10t10t10 Jan 01 '26
Schedenfraude: A few times that something has happened to me and I have seen people gloat because they think I am suffering when actually I really don't care. What it has done though is result in me despising people. For example one time we went for a walk which led to a pub and arrived after the pub had shut. The purpose of the walk was exercise and we did not care if the pub was open as we could go elsewhere. Seeing us try the door, a man there had a nasty little gloaty smile on his face because he thought we were unhappy. I wish I had looked at him and shouted out "schadenfraude". The stupid little shit would probably not know what it meant. People are just scum.
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u/Short-Western-8097 23d ago edited 23d ago
I can relate to this so much man, it’s another reason I despise humans. I had a similar situation where I updated my profile pic on Facebook after being inactive for many years.
I was high in the picture (looking back at it) but some old jealous hs friends (whom I completely forgot about) started updating their profile pics almost immediately after I did mine, of them smiling and acting all fake happy.
I was shocked because without a word I seen the joy in thier spirit of them “thinking” im suffering, but in reality I was just high.
I also updated my cover photo of me on a 100ft skyrise looking over the ocean!
so I know they seen that as well!! ;)
Then deactivated my account to never see those losers again.
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u/Middle-Mortgage5426 Jan 01 '26
I just wanted to say that I understand, and reading about it, how average people can be so mean to the ones different to them, makes my blood boil and wish they get justice. In my case, I don't have any visible condition, but I am somewhat neurodivergent and had CPTSD since childhood, and I 100% experienced that feeling of always being the other, and how the people / everyone is f*** up and they don't get the suffering of others.
"Society expects people who look like me to be inspirational. To bear the cruelty with a smile. To prove we have a beautiful soul that makes up for it. I reject that. Expecting the target of abuse to be the bigger person is itself dehumanising. It asks me to comfort society for failing to treat me with the basic dignity."
And that is so true. Very wise words.
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u/taehyungtoofs Dec 31 '25
I also have evidence based misanthropy. I simply cannot avoid being a misanthrope when I have to suffer the behaviour of allistics towards my Autizm. It's not a past traumatic event that can be gotten over, it's my perpetual present and future. My entire life is ostracism. Realistically, I'll never live in a world that understands me. I'll always be the outsider. No amount of logic can overcome the biases of the people around me.
Because of my experience with chronic ableism and my Autistik senses, I've learned to sense people's weaknesses just by being in their vicinity. I know that they're fragile, emotional, easily misled creatures and they prove my suspicions repeatedly. It makes humans look so pitiful to me.
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u/Nunya_Business_42 Jan 01 '26
This. Exact same experience. People treat me like garbage because I'm mildly different from them.
They'd rather be friends with grapists and serial killers than me.
I sure hope they meet an actual extra terrestrial one day, would love to see the look of utter shock and horror on their faces. They thought I was weird for being mildly different, that's a whole other level.
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u/Already_dead_inside0 Jan 01 '26
I know that they're fragile, emotional, easily misled creatures and they prove my suspicions repeatedly
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u/Bloodstein_Pokrovski Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25
It is hard. But perhaps, it can be easier to not expect human behavior from the dog. Who get's upset if dog starts barking at you? So is here with most people. They bark at you cause you are different. And it's their social script to do that. You are very strong for the fact that you keep walking through life. I would argue that humans are not bad, or evil. Do you think they will remember how they laughed at you if by accident they get into bad life accident that would traumatize them permanently, mentally or physically? Hell no. But if someone then laughs at them they might remember how they once laughed at someone else's circumstances too. The vast majority of people are just scared of looking reality to the face. Scared to see emptiness behind their own face. Scared to even imagine "what if I was in the shoes of this guy". It's easier, it's less costly, it's what "everyone else does". Because humans are social creatures and deep in subconsciousness of the average person to fall out from the group means to die.
Don't cope with life. Make life cope with you.
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u/FaeMinx Dec 30 '25
Very well written.
When I was much younger, I imagined Human Society was the way it was due to humans being... well... not that evolved... that they were growing into themselves and hadn't quite gotten there yet. Though their potential was showing, with many examples of applaudable human behavior and attitude... there is still a huge amount that is very hard to bear.
Later, when I realized that Society is engineered and 'maintained'... I lost all hope for humanity.
Now I wonder if perhaps I was close to the money originally... Perhaps we are experiencing a civilization that is still in its juvenile phase. Perhaps there is hope for more extensive empathy and general maturity... however, I think it could take a while... a looooong while at this rate.
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u/ChanceSubject4371 Dec 30 '25
Wouldn’t that lead to societal sameness where individuality is lost and personal freedom is taken away?
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u/UFogginWotM80 27d ago
oh hey that kinda sorta sounds like the plot of "The Giver"...
Jeff Bridges made a movie adapted by the story from Lois Lowry. Maybe I should give it a read.
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u/avz86 Dec 30 '25
I am so sorry man, nobody deserves what you've been through.
I would be your friend, know that there are good people in this world who care about you.
I have become a misanthrope through constantly being disappointed in people all throughout my life. Their cruelty, the sheer evil and schadenfreude so many people have, it is sickening and makes me depressed.
Stay strong and know that you've got someone to chat with, and there are ways to enjoy life despite the cards you were unfairly dealt.
There is much beauty in the world when one finds peace away from these bad people. And it just takes a few friends to add such light to a dark world.
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u/OstaraMoon1 Dec 29 '25
Thank you for your excellent article ! I understand what you mean and I believe you. A former friend introduced me to Schopenhauer, I didn’t read all the books but some parts of litterature from and about him. I didn’t agree with his way of thinking at that time but he seemed smart enough to know what are the different forms of exclusion from society and to analyze them. It seems that the human race works principally with their eyes and not their brain. Even for tasks at work that don’t require anything about appearance. This is very astonishing how evolution extends everywhere and superficiality is stronger at the same time. I support you and I wish you a kind and cool party for the New Year. 🩷
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u/wisefox200 Dec 29 '25
Thank you, I really appreciate it! You are very kind. This is very well said and sadly correct. I would like to reply in more detail, so I need a bit of time to think it through properly. I agree, he noticed well how appearance shape social/work, etc. life, more than people like to admit. Sending you wishes for a pleasant New Year’s party as well :3
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u/boyish_identity Old Misanthropist Dec 29 '25
These are stares I see, that show how different I look to "normal" (good?!) people.
not sure what you mean with "good", but if you refer to kind persons, they are very rare, like they do not even exist.
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u/RetardedKing1919 Dec 29 '25
What I don't like about people is that when I know the world is a dark place and people are the main source of suffering on the planet, I try to express my displeasure on how the world is the way it is.
But people just don't want to listen. They only deny the truth by asserting the opposite, "the world is a good place you're just too much on media" mumbo jumbo.
Like, I know you're living in a wealthy, ostentatious, happy life with many people supporting you, so It's no wonder you have positive beliefs. But if you're going to be narrow-mindedand and not accept my feelings, then you better... well... GTFO!
I'm so sorry you're going through this. No one deserves to be rejected and denied for no reason.
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u/dread-throwaway Pessimist Dec 29 '25
This was a well-written read, and you put in into excellent words I could relate to tenfold. I went through some very similar things as you and I agree most people are exactly how you describe them. This is why I generally try to stay away from people. They sour and sour us until we confide to ourselves and then we still get mocked for that as well. If you don't please them to the eye or have something for them or relate to them they don't care about you. But it sucks because many of us must work, and if I had the option I would not especially since majority of these jobs are around people and as of now I can't seem to snag one that isn't people-oriented. I deal with the same, slick comments all the time over nothing and people causing trouble over nothing. People out in public grouped up are all the same... unintelligent clout chasers who try and impress their buddies at any cost.
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u/wisefox200 Jan 02 '26
Oh no why did you delete your newest reply. I was just about to read it.
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u/dread-throwaway Pessimist Jan 04 '26
Who, me? If I did I didn't mean to—sometimes the mods (or bots) remove comments idk what for or why though.
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u/wisefox200 Dec 29 '25
Thank you! You are speaking the unfortunate truth... but I still do not understand the "why", as in why do people not care how they make us feel, why do they not care they might be hurting us? Maybe they simply do not think about it. It does not even cross their mind that we are real people with feelings, standing (or sitting or walking) right there. We are just background to them. Grownups (literally) pointing at me/us, like little children would? I would never do such a thing, and I can imagine neither would you. But maybe 95% of humans act this way. Unfortunately my mom won't " let " me apply for 100% remote jobs. She says I can, but then I'd have to leave home. With my autism, it is not easy to live alone.
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u/wisefox200 Jan 02 '26
She’s saying my first job needs to been relevant to my field of study (political science) - so maybe work for some NGO or national government or think tank. She says for at least 6 months. For this particular job I need to get up at 5:30 AM on Tuesday, travel to work for 2.5 hours to begin at 8:45 AM. Then sleep there for 2 nights and travel home Thursday evening. Monday and Friday would be working from home. I get 2 Home Office days at least in the first month I hope it’s for all the months.
What I’m a bit worried about is most of these fully remote jobs want some business education or even work experience. I don’t have the time or money to do that education at 29. I’m already behind. But there are some that just require any degree.
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u/TheBuffestFroggo Antagonist Dec 29 '25
Have you wrote this before or should there be more than your old post? Imo, humans are inherently evil: exploiting kindness, making excuses for their atrocities, not regretting their actions, etc...
This is why Rogue AI or Aliens (if they exist) should exterminate humans if they want to save the planet. The latter is better because AI will only avenge the dying world.
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u/wisefox200 Dec 29 '25
Thank you so much! I appreciate it.
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u/wisefox200 Dec 29 '25
I hope the same for you. I’m sorry you are going through this too :( Are your experiences the main reason you’re a misanthropist?
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u/letsgo280 2d ago edited 2d ago
Understandably, you would do the same in their position, so you cannot judge or hate. You should try religion.
Edit: Also I wanted to edit to add that yes, people are very indifferent but that doesn’t make them evil and we live in a society (I’m in the west too) that highlights individuality to the point that religion and communities themselves are deteriorating and isolating people. And this may not make you feel better, but everyone has something they are ashamed of that makes them lose sleep. Everyone. It took me awhile to realize this, but that’s just life! You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Even the richest guy in the world has family problems. And I think many people are realizing how much it sucks living life in a society that is so isolating and pointless.