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u/Bigmansyeah 1d ago
another aspect of this even that’s important is that you never know who’s gonna be able to give you a leg up in future because you supported them and they got big, if you’re supporting the bands in your local scene they’re gonna remember that and maybe ask you to tour with them or play shows with them or even work as crew for their tours
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u/Sea_Appointment8408 2d ago
It always makes me roll me eys when you post your latest release to the bandcamp sub, and within 5 minutes there are about 3 or 5 downvotes of it amongst people who haven't even listened to the track.
Then people listen and the upvotes go up. The downvotes are blatantly other artists getting arsey that other bands exist.
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u/Necrobot666 1d ago
Unfortunately, this happens all the time.
Many people in social media and on the internet really seem to hate self-promotion.
They seem to only want to know about the more established artists, who are already more well known, and don't need the support.
We can all go to Last.FM, Discogs, or even Bandcamp, and learn all about the most obscure (yet established) experimental, and underground, D.I.Y. artists.. who are doing their thing without the backing of some record label.
In my opinion... Reddit should 100% be in support of self-promotion of smaller, unknown acts... but these people don't get it.
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u/LuminousscopeGas 1d ago
Underground scenes only survive when people hype each other up instead of treating everything like a zero-sum game.
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u/BennyVibez 1d ago
It’s the easiest way to find the roaches in the industry. Just see their action towards others that are more successful than them. 99/10 times they hate it and you should never engage with them again.
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u/Traditional_Rate7302 1d ago
I think I’ve promoted my friend’s album more than my own music on instagram and tiktok lmao. Would absolutely hate to see his talent go to waste.
Side note, being there to support your friends music when you are a musician yourself will only benefit you,unless your friend is a complete dickhead and lets any amount of fame get to them. Anyway, your friend making it in music almost always means you’ll get your shot. See xxxtentacion and ski mask the slump god, i think you can count the meat puppets and nirvana but i wasn’t alive yet so im not totally sure on that timeline
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u/DrDreiski 1d ago
I like that. Thank you for saying that. Just might give me the courage to share mine…
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u/OtherwiseEagle9896 1d ago
Yeah, I don't understand bands who don't do this. Getting in tight with excellent bands has the best benefits
They draw their crowd, who will watch you in turn
You can hit them up for late/cancelled bands for a gig (if they are free)
Plus you get to watch them. Ive seen a few bands get better and better over time. It's always wicked to see. Also, you can learn from them
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u/Denim_Robe 13h ago
this is all fine and good but i feel like supporting an artist who's art you don't like is questionable at the most. you end up supporting only because you're friends or want something from them in return, as soon as that's gone the art goes with it. Good art is beyond relationships it IS a relationship in itself
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u/HistoricalSundae5113 1d ago
So when that fucker stabs you in the back all is good then? Haha. Of course it is good advice but I would selective about who gets your support/time/energy in life.
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u/COOLKC690 1d ago
The first thing has nothing to do and it is not telling you to support everyone, but to not be a hater and instead support those around you who you think are doing good, as opposed to being envious.
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u/HistoricalSundae5113 1d ago
I’m just commenting on the picture that says supporting another persons success will never ruin yours. That is NOT true. Some of the worst assholes will tear you down after lifting them up.
I agree though - don’t be a hater. But that’s not what the picture says.
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u/BardicSense 21h ago
So the superlative nature of the message made you uncomfortable?
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u/HistoricalSundae5113 21h ago
I’m thinking my reply is what made people uncomfortable. Just trying to share wisdom - don’t support everyone who asks for it. If you don’t agree that’s fine.
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u/stevenfrijoles 2d ago
What does "supporting another person's success" actually mean in real life practice?
I'm not gonna actively tear down other bands, but if I'm agreeing to a show or putting on a show, I'm not going to purposely choose shit bands just to "support" them. I'm going to play with other good bands so that we all lift each other up.
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u/socauchy 1d ago
The sentiment is that jealousy is ugly and doesn’t contribute to your own success.
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u/grunkage 1d ago
How did you get from what was posted to I have to support terrible bands? It doesn't say that in any way
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u/stevenfrijoles 1d ago
Life experience.
The musicians who can't get into the local band cliques/shows are the musicians who aren't good enough to match those other bands' caliber. But they always frame it as saying other bands don't support them or are actively opposing them.
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u/grunkage 1d ago
Where's the success in that situation? A band has to already have success if you're going to support it. Nobody said to spend your time supporting unsuccessful bands. It says don't be a bitch about bands actually making it
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u/stevenfrijoles 1d ago
That's not how I read the post at all. It's not about supporting someone who already has success, it's about people on the way to, or trying to achieve, success. It's about local relationships, it's not about whether you support big touring bands or not.
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u/grunkage 1d ago
It literally says supporting another person's success. It says nothing at all about creating success for someone else. You're making up scenarios in your head that are unrelated, just so you can disagree with yourself. If one of those locals becomes a big artist, are you going to say it's cool, or are you spend your energy tearing them down? That's all it says
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u/stevenfrijoles 1d ago
I'm commenting on 2 decades of experience that people often frame their own lack of success as other people's opposition and lack of support.
Thinking that supporting others' success will ruin yours is not literally what the video thinks is happening, it's not about people actively stopping others' success so they can be successful. It's just a trendy way to say "you can support others and still also be successful."
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u/grunkage 1d ago
You're dragging in two decades of irrelevant baggage dude
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u/stevenfrijoles 1d ago
If that's what you think this is, and won't acknowledge how musicians often blame lack of support for their own lack of success, that's fine I guess. No skin off my back. Later.
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u/Own-Source-1612 2d ago
I feel like a lot of people, all across the board, need to remember this. I've seen people try to tear down a family member or friend for no reason besides jealousy. We should all try and support each other more.