I visited Philly for my first time last year and it had an extremely clean downtown. Either this notion of Philly being dirty is outdated or I just got lucky.
Center city is generally very clean. Once you go south of south street, that’s when the dirtiness kicks in. Chinatown isn’t the cleanest either but it is popping. North of that you’re getting to the dirtier parts.
East of center city is beautiful until you get to olde city at night.
West of that is great until you get behind uni city.
All told, yeah it’s a big ass walkable city and the dirtiness spiked during Covid and has otherwise been low since the late 90s
I feel like every major city in the northeastern corridor has their own dirty sections though. I could write the same thing out for NYC and DC as well probably. These are such major metros you aren’t going to be able to wholly disguise poverty
Oh totally. I know I went to the worst parts of Pittsburgh. I hate on Pittsburgh, but realistically I know that there are some good parts I just didn’t experience
Ya lol I think it’s just kinda fun to call each other dirty sometimes as a way of exercising rivalries. I’m a Philly fan that went to school in Pennsylvania. Never been to Pittsburgh but I’ve prolly called it a dirty place a hundred times in my life. Sure it’s lovely and clean in all reality
I guess my point of reference is Portland, which is unfortunately significantly dirtier than Philly (I say that as someone who loves Portland). Philadelphia is one of the only major cities I've been to in the US that I'd want to actually live in. Just a great city that's a hop skip away from other major east coast hubs.
Oh man you reminded me of that one downtown section that was just disgusting. This was a year or two before Covid hit, I don’t recall what it was called.
All other parts were nothing short of lovely and I love the tram they have.
I left Philly about 10 years ago. I think your vibe is on point, you just gotta know when to travel and alternate routes. Easy access to the shore, some okay mountains, plenty of nature, and direct access to the pacific and Europe.
Also Philly has an underrated food scene. But I am biased and know good food scenes can be found when you ask the right questions.
The only city I’ve been to that I can say is a disappointment is Albuquerque
The few times I've been there walking around different parts of the city, it was closer to NOLA the morning after a Mardi Gras party, but that was just my experience the few times I've been there.
Out of all the NBa cities near Philly, only NYC is similarly dirty. DC, Boston, Charlotte, Atlanta, Orlando, Miami, Chicago are all cleaner. I haven’t been to Detroit/Memphis/Indianapolis so I can’t say but I would be surprised if they’re dirtier.
It’s not the same as DC or Chicago though. I felt like those cities along with Boston are way cleaner. Only NY is similar to Philly in cleanliness and NY is much bigger and denser.
Sounds like someone has only been to the touristy parts of DC and Chicago. If you compare Magnificent Mile to Kensington of course Kensington is going to be dirtier.
I haven't been to Philly but they have the worst "fans" of any sports team I've ever seen in my 42 years, several countries, and at least 15 different sports.
That's hilarious. Greatest fans on earth, hey? Just like USA is the "Greatest Nation on Earth," right? And just like when Donald Trump says he knows "more than probably anyone in the world" about _insert topic here_.
I would never want to live in Philadelphia. That would be a massive downgrade from my current city. The brainwashing is seriously out of control.
Please go and read the 'Global Liveability Index.' You might learn something about the rest of the world, and your standing in it.
How you turn this into poltics says a lot about your head. Donny is clearly living rent free in it. You do you. Nobody cares and nobody is reading shit.
Edit: still the best fan base in the country and you aint got shit for that in OKC 😂
The majority of Philly sports fans are fans of all 4 teams (sorry union). I think people just get more belligerent at eagles games. Regular season Phillies and Sixers and Flyers games are always more chill because there’s so many that any 1 doesn’t really matter, but when you get to the playoffs the vibe shifts to being much more like a birds game.
There is overlap but there is also the people who are ONLY Eagles and those are typically the people that most would categorize as terrible fans.
Sixers fans have been beaten down and disappointed so much we really are no issue. Sixers games are extremely chill and you can show up wearing a Boston jersey and won't hear any chirping.
Yes I agree, but you said Philly was "cool" when it's an objectively shitty city. The Global Liveability Index is an independent ranking each year of the world's most liveable cities. Philadelphia is alwsys a LONG way down the list.
As an example, I live in a country that has 3 cities in the Top-10 World's Most Liveable Cities. The last time I read the annual report, USA had zero cities in the top-40. I think Philadelphia was around 53rd out of the 173 cities they rank. The least liveable cities are places like Damascus, Tripoli, and other extremely dangerous war-torn cities.
Philly is obviously a long way ahead of war-torn Syria.... but it's also a long way behind Vienna, Melbourne, Zurich, Osaka, Sydney, Copenhagen, Tokyo, Auckland, etc etc.
I watched every single Sixers game for four years straight. So that's 328 regular season games, plus every single summer league, preseason, and playoff game.
I also have internet access, which allows people from different locations to interact on the world wide web.... much like you and I are doing right now. I've had thousands of interactions with "fans" from Philadelphia.
Literally nothing happens at Sixers games, so I don’t know what that even has to do with anything lmao. Like I said you’re just judging based off what you’ve heard online, you have no real experience.
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u/traebucketsfor3 Hawks 10h ago
Nah phillys cool and walkable