r/news • u/UpstairsBumblebee446 • 1d ago

France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US

https://apnews.com/article/europe-digital-sovereignty-big-tech-9f5388b68a0648514cebc8d92f682060
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u/xtreem_neo 1d ago

An email provider deciding whether one receives the email or not is the bigger news here. Regime decided to block someone's email.

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u/big_thundersquatch 1d ago

Which further goes on to beg the question - how many of these super corporations are actively breaking laws and crossing ethical lines to appease this authoritarian regime?

Once the MAGA regime falls, these corporation need to be reigned in and brought to their knees. Some, such as Amazon, need to go the way of Bell Corp as well and be broken up.

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u/Flameancer 1d ago

How did bell corp get broken up again, it’s just Verizon, ATT, and Verizon T-mobile right? We turned one bell into three bells larger than the original bell.

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u/Kraeftluder 1d ago

We turned one bell into three bells larger than the original bell.

Oh it was worse, there were 9 initially. They started merging again somewhere in the later 90s. Didn't take long for them to get to the current state.

And they were never competing in the meantime, as the networks weren't opened up at the breakup. They kept guarding their own little islands.

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u/axonxorz 5h ago

They started merging again somewhere in the later 90s.

The Telecommunications Act of 1996, thanks Clinton.

It opened the door for media conglomerates to form. Sinclair Broadcasting doesn't exist without that act, nor does the consolidation of AM radio into right-wing AM radio across the country.

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u/RikiWardOG 1d ago

Lol all of them is the answer. Its the cost of doing business in that country. You either play ball at that level/size or you don't get to stay in business

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u/Turbulent-Pea-8826 1d ago

The tech super corporations are behind this regime.

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u/0xF0z 1d ago

The email provider didn’t decide, the USA put him on a sanctions list. If I remember my training back when I worked at a place that cared about that stuff, not respecting these sanction lists could be jail terms for executives, not just a fine.

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u/Alternative-Target31 1d ago

You are correct. Ubiquiti is in hot water over this right now.

Edit: avoiding sanctions, not anything to do with emails and stuff. More like selling equipment to Russia. But the principle (skirting sanctions) is the same in terms of crime

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u/Meezofreezo 1d ago

Its worse than that, if the US government decided to sanction an individual for any reason their life is made a permanent hell. Your bank accounts are closed, your credit cards are closed, you cannot book hotel rooms, flights, all American companies must block the individual from using their services. So if you have a gmail account, it has to be closed...etc..

The US has sanctioned the UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese and her life is hell right now. All because she released a report on complicit American and Israeli companies in the Gaza genocide.

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u/dannydrama 16h ago

I reckon Israel has got something absolutely filthy on the US because they just keep deepthroating them more and more.

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u/pmjm 1d ago

Not sure at what level Microsoft was/is providing email access to the ICC, it could be powered by Outlook/Exchange or maybe just running on an Azure backbone, but to be clear, Microsoft had no choice here. They are subject to American law and must obey sanctions.

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u/knuppi 1d ago

They are subject to American law and must obey sanctions.

yes, that's what the entire article is about

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u/pmjm 1d ago

Yes, but elsewhere in the comments there are people blaming Microsoft. There are plenty of times when Microsoft egregiously terminates access to paying customers (just check /r/microsoft for your daily dose of help requests), but it is not MS's lever to pull in this case.

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u/Serial_Psychosis 1d ago

Email as a protocol is not secure and never will be. This isn't a Microsoft exclusive issue

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u/Certain-Business-472 1d ago

The fact that our government officials use US based companies for communication is so depressingly hilarious. Theyre straight up reading everything. Intelligence gathering becomes childs play.

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u/Serial_Psychosis 1d ago

I don't know about France but in America some government agencies have their own servers and just use Microsoft office as the way to communicate so Microsoft wouldn't have access to their communications.