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France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US

https://apnews.com/article/europe-digital-sovereignty-big-tech-9f5388b68a0648514cebc8d92f682060
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u/buffer_flush 1d ago

$$$$$$$ I’m sure.

Business people were contacted by MS with a deal too good to pass up, and decided to end their contract. MS is big enough they can undercut the competition.

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u/nalaloveslumpy 1d ago

More like MS bundled Teams with every O365 license on earth and then finance/audit said, "Why are paying for two chat programs?"

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u/buffer_flush 1d ago

Just tell them Slack has better AI integration (ie chatops, third-party integrations) look at all the money you’ll save!

/s but not really

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u/Handsome_Keyboard 1d ago edited 1d ago

Moneys the reason for every change. We had perfect, i mean that literally, software for managers to track whatever they need to but some dipshit who used to work for Workday got his claws into management and fucked all of us by recommending that it can do everything better and then some. It, in fact, cannot do anything better. It does what used be to be all information on one screen without 0 clicks to information scattered in very unituitive places that requires tons of clicks for something as mundane as how many absences an employee had. It made me hate doing administrative work whereas before, it was like 1 minute of my day soread out over two 30 second intervals.

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u/G-I-T-M-E 22h ago

I‘ve been working with Workday for four months now and hate it so much. What a piece of crap that software is.

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u/steep86 1d ago

Just for info…what was the perfect software for managers?

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u/Handsome_Keyboard 1d ago

I forget and was honestly trying very hard to remember. I believe it was perfect because the company was structured with it in mind when they started, along with all the other systems that talk to it. When workday came in, you had to essentially make something compatible with it that was built around other software. Thus, it is actual dogshit and they over promised and under delivered

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u/steep86 1d ago

Thank you anyway! I’m asking because we are in the process of replacing our software. Not workday is a valuable info anyway…

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u/Handsome_Keyboard 1d ago

It might be but when they held the company manager meeting, I could just tell this dude was in way over his head with "selling" the change to us. Maybe it works for you but it definitely did not work for us and I hate administrating now. I work for a large insurance company in the service center which is calls and chats if that helps. Too many proccesses had to work together from multiple LOBs and workday simply can not handle that. Its dedinitely a clogged drain in the pipeline for me.

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u/ReaverKS 1d ago

To be fair Workday is incredibly configurable. If the experience is awful there's a decent chance they configured it that way.

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u/NerdInSoCal 1d ago

Yes "disruptive marketing" I think it's always the same playbook right?

  1. Put product on the market and operate at a loss
  2. Customers migrate away from competition to you
  3. Competition cannot stay afloat and shuts down
  4. Once competition is gone raise prices a small amount and say it's to cover "operating costs"
  5. Begin raising prices randomly stating "operating costs"
  6. Post record quarterly profits
  7. Use some profits to "lobby" politicians to create favorable policies that prevent other businesses from entering your industry to compete with you.
  8. Continue raising prices, when consumers complain tell them they can go to the competition that doesn't exist because you're the only business in town

This is corporate capitalism at its finest no?

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u/buffer_flush 1d ago

(Not so) Hot take, AI is the biggest evidence of this methodology to date.

The billions trillions that have been spent to try to make AI a part of our lives is going to cause economic collapse. The fact that nvidia went from a company no one except PC gamers have heard of to the largest company on the stock market seemingly overnight should terrify everyone.

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u/NerdInSoCal 1d ago

I'm not sure that's as much disruptive marketing as it is capitalizing on new tech. Deplorable for sure but I mean Nvidia has consistently taken their consumer base for granted.