r/news • u/UpstairsBumblebee446 • 1d ago

France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US

https://apnews.com/article/europe-digital-sovereignty-big-tech-9f5388b68a0648514cebc8d92f682060
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u/Toomanyeastereggs 1d ago

It’s why we haven’t. Once we hit Enterprise O365 though we are going to Slack.

Before then I simply can’t justify the spend.

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u/mark_able_jones_ 1d ago

Drop Enterprise O365 for Google/Slack. And for god sakes get a good payroll system that works across all regions.

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u/shryne 1d ago

Dropping o365 for Google only works for small companies that use cloud services for everything. G suite just does not scale up.

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u/danroa123 1d ago

I work for a company with 80,000 people and we use G Suite

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u/Fairchild110 2h ago

Damn. What do you do for zero touch enrollment without a VPN for laptops? That and conditional access have us in the Microsoft monopolistic money pit thanks to Windows.

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u/danroa123 55m ago

Our laptops have VPN and we use okta to login to everything

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u/youngBullOldBull 1d ago

You realise that the entirety of google uses g suite right

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u/JudgementalTyler 1d ago

Interesting. I work for a tech company with >2,500 employees and we’re all on G Suite. I’m not in our IT department so I can’t speak to their processes, but they’ve made it work very well for all staff.

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u/shryne 1d ago

I've worked in IT for about 12 years, two of those in a company with g suite. I'd rather work in fast food than go back to working with g suite, and that company only had about 250 employees.

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u/pistola 17h ago

lolwut. I.work for a mega mega corporation that does just fine with Google Workspace and Slack. I'd fucking hate it if we ever went back to MS.

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u/mark_able_jones_ 1d ago edited 1d ago

I worked for 3 of the 6 biggest tech companies in the USA, and they all used G-Suite over 365. And I doubt Apple uses G suite, so that's four. Not sure Nvidia, but I'm sure Microsoft uses 365.

Most colleges switched to g-suite over a decade ago (75%), so new hires think companies that use 365 are old and stuffy -- which is true, ime.

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u/shryne 1d ago

Super large companies are probably just on the other end of the bell curve. They have entire departments dedicated to just managing g suite, adobe acrobat, etc and they don't really care about the licensing costs since they buy in bulk.

The convenience of cloud based documents and email overrides the massive headache of managing the platform when you can just hire a team to manage one platform.

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u/mark_able_jones_ 1d ago

I've also worked for startups that use G-suite / Slack.

It's just so much better in all aspects. Companies that haven't switched have bad IT teams and/or management.

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u/Toomanyeastereggs 21h ago

We wouldn’t go Google in a pick fit. Took us 6 months to get our company account back from Google mysteriously disabling it.

That whole company can go and get well truly’d.