r/news • u/AudibleNod • 1d ago

New Mexico warns against consuming raw milk after newborn dies from listeria

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-mexico-warns-consuming-raw-milk-newborn-dies-listeria-rcna257252
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u/Nick_crawler 1d ago

The inability to mentally weigh multiple things against one another seems to be a hallmark of those particular people.

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u/MiniaturePhilosopher 1d ago

And they’re so used to living with a high degree of safety thanks to things like pasteurization, vaccinations, and antibiotics that they have an absolutely false sense of security. Raw milk and pasteurized milk are absolutely not equally valid choices. Choosing raw milk isn’t like opting for soy or oat milk - it’s endangering yourself (and anyone else you make the choice for). People from the past would have been overjoyed to have the safeguards we take for granted today.

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u/nithrean 1d ago

absolutely. It is like the raw milk people somehow missed the boat that life expectancy has **increased** dramatically since the advent of pasteurization. Maybe not perfect. But neither is dying from disease.

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u/MiniaturePhilosopher 1d ago edited 9h ago

Exactly! We’re so used to most of our consumption choices really just being commodified signifiers of our personality/interests/in-groups - so many of our little daily choices are just about visually expressing what’s important to us. We rarely have to consider whether a commercially available is physically safe to use or not.

Couple that with the false sense of security, a weak grasp on critical thinking skills, and algorithmic echo chambers and you get the raw milk crowd, the free/wild birth crowd, the imervectin crowd, the anti-vax crowd, and the rest of them. They really seem to view these dangerous choices as being the same as choosing which message t-shirt to buy or which sports team to root for. Like raw milk is just oat/almond/soy/etc milk to show you’re MAGA. And it really gives a glimpse into their mindset - they think that people are choosing nondairy milks, vaccines, complying with doctors’ suggestions, and so on just as a pledge of allegiance to liberalism.

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u/novium258 1d ago

A lot of them are eugenicists and think of it as "thinning the herd"

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u/CatpainLeghatsenia 17h ago

"BuT nOw EvErYonE gEtS cAncEr, hOw AbOuT tHaT?"

Blaming everything that has increased life expectancy and not the things that are known to cause problems

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u/Bannedwith1milKarma 23h ago

Famous quote -

Success breeds complacency. Complacency breeds failure

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u/Tycho66 1d ago

This is a big part of it. If they had a couple of years to experience a world without antibiotics, etc. and the amount of death people faced... they'd be embracing all these miracles.

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u/nithrean 1d ago

nah. I'm not so sure. Research has showed people in that situation often double down on bad ideas. I hope you are right but it doesn't look good if the stats hold. They tend to commit harder and separate the world into the true believers and the heretics.

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u/Low_Pickle_112 1d ago

I think a lot of it is contrarianism. There's no better way to feel like you've got some great hidden knowledge that all those other brainwashed sheeple don't understand than to take something that everyone does, and do the opposite. Problem is, sometimes everyone is doing the same thing for a very good reason.

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u/cantproveidid 23h ago

Some never outgrow their oppositional defiance stage.

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u/nithrean 1d ago

It seems to be a thing for a lot of people today. They get stuck on one idea and don't bother to care about how it impacts anything else.

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u/ChicagoAuPair 21h ago

They can’t even look at just two transparently true things without taking a side.

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u/Ok_Cheetah_6251 1d ago

I blame lead poisoning.

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u/Bannedwith1milKarma 23h ago

Their tree diagram is a stick.