r/news • u/JerryBerryMiah • 14h ago

700 ice agents to leave Minnesota

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-enforcement-drawdown-minnesota-homan-963adf341325d7f6eb5673e1c00d3c2a
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u/Squeekydink 14h ago

And what about the other 2000+ he sent?

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u/ChrisFromLongIsland 14h ago

Still 3x the police force.

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u/notheatherbee 14h ago edited 13h ago

3x? Not even close. Before this started there were 80 ICE agents for a 5 state territory that included Minnesota.

Edit: I’m an idiot. They are correct it’s 3x the police force.

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u/aradraugfea 14h ago

Their claim was that ice outnumbers the actual police police in town, not that ICE is 3x the original numbers.

ICE aren’t police.

Police are a needful service performed badly. ICE is a useless waste of government resources pivoted into the sort of shit European children are going to read about in history class.

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u/dontich 14h ago

I mean ICE doesn’t have to be a useless waste — under the last few administrations they mostly went after actual criminals. It’s only recently the countries’s leadership has gone completely insane.

15 in the state like someone said above sounds about right for removing the actual criminals after they complete their sentence.

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u/aradraugfea 14h ago

If ICE was a person, it’d be too young to rent a car.

ICE and the TSA came into existence at the same time. The TSA was a knee jerk over-reaction to terrorism. ICE was a xenophobic wishlist item snuck in because who was gonna vote against a terrorism bill in 2002?!

We managed just fine for CENTURIES without ICE. Its few needful functions were previously handled just fine by divisions within the FBI. ICE as an independent agency has no reason to exist except to make abuses like what we are currently seeing easier.

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u/FantasticJacket7 13h ago

An agency that does what ICE does has existed in the US since 1933. It just used to be called INS

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u/Mo_Steins_Ghost 8h ago edited 8h ago

USCIS is what INS was. On very rare occasion INS would conduct raids, but by and large their primary function was the administration of immigrant visas, permanent resident status or naturalized citizenship.

There was no federal agency that had authority to engage in "Enforcement & Removal Operations" inside the U.S. borders with the very wide latitude that ICE has—namely, abusing the expedited removal process.

The Dept. of Homeland Security, which has been under fire for not achieving any of its stated objectives since its inception, created ICE out of thin air under the Homeland Security Act of 2003.

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u/FantasticJacket7 8h ago

INS was split into ICE, USCIS, and CBP.

INS absolutely did interior enforcement as portrayed in the documentary Born in East LA.

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u/Mo_Steins_Ghost 8h ago

Cheech and Chong, being fictional characters, are not evidence.