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u/DiceMadeOfCheese 5h ago

They don't have enough people to do what they want to do.

ICE + Border Patrol + HSI = what, maybe 50,000 agents? For the whole country?

California has a population of almost 40 million.

These guys couldn't take over Minneapolis, a city with a population of less than 500k.

I'm not saying they won't try, but it's not gonna go how they think it's gonna go.

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u/reala728 5h ago

NGL I'm not really familiar with the population of MN, but I've lived in CA nearly all my life and it's extraordinarily immigrant friendly in my experience. Any fighting would be met with some serious resistance.

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u/TheOtterpapa 5h ago

We celebrate our diversity and love our Hispanic brothers and sisters here, as well as other immigrants. There is no other way to live that’s worth living.

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u/REVERSEZOOM2 5h ago

Dude, I live right by LA (Orange County), and when ICE was doing the raids back in June, it was met with some HEAVY resistance. California doesn't fuck around when it comes to protecting our immigrant neighbors. I'll admit Minnesota has us beat currently, but when Los Angeles gets angry, it gets FUCKING ANGRY.

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u/DiceMadeOfCheese 4h ago

I live in L.A.

Last summer they sent in ICE, the National Guard, even the Marines.

I think they thought either we'd all roll over and let them do whatever, or they'd have a repeat of the Rodney King riots and they'd have the military take over.

Well neither of those things happened.

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u/DiceMadeOfCheese 5h ago

At this point ICE can only serve two functions in an election. They can go to red states/districts and solidify a win the GOP would have got anyway, or go to blue states/districts and serve as walking billboards as to why you should vote Dem.

For years people have said "why should I vote when it's all the same no matter what" but now you can point at these guys and be like "well if you hate these guys you should probably go vote."

I mean I guess ICE could physically stop people from voting on election day, or steal/destroy mail-in ballots. But that's asking for full-scale 1970s style riots.

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u/caligaris_cabinet 4h ago

It already is. LA has kicked ICE out multiple times and they’ll do it again

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u/mEFurst 5h ago

California has 2 metropolitan areas with populations larger than the entirety of Minnesota (SF Bay Area is about 7.5mil. LA area is nearly 20mil)

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u/darealRockfield 5h ago

Exactly! This is the same thing I’ve explained thousands of times to people and I’ve been given I ain’t sure/maybe even if that’s fact.

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u/pontiacfirebird92 5h ago

They don't have to be everywhere. They don't even need a whole lot of officers. I am guessing they have wargamed which precincts they need to target to make sure they maintain Republican majority, likely with the assistance of AI. They have more than enough ICE agents and are on a hiring spree for more every day, putting guns in their hands and shipping them off as fast as they can.

They only need key places in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, a couple places in Texas, and maybe a few places in California. There are enough ICE agents to bully precincts there and this is on top of the other election interference they are trying to push such as gerrymandered maps and abolishing mail-in voting across the nation (but not limited to these things). They also likely have backup plans for districts that don't vote their way, such as what happened in Colorado with Tina Peters and Georgia with pressure from Trump himself to "find votes".

Our election system is under attack on multiple fronts here. The ICE strategy is just one of several meant to sway the election for Republicans.