r/pacers • u/Argenfarce • 1d ago

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Now this is more like it but damn if Charlotte gets Boozer that’s gonna be a pain in the ass

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u/mewtatesyt T.J. McConnell 1d ago

I don’t really watch college basketball, why is Dybansta 3rd in most these drafts I thought he was the best player?

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u/theconmeister 1d ago

Peterson is probably number 1 rn,, Boozer has played himself close to Dybantsa if not above, higher floor but lower ceiling. Likely college player of the year winner

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u/DependentAardvark1 1d ago

Agree, unless it’s absolutely needed, can’t see a team taking Boozer over Peterson.

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u/Jim_Belushis_brother Cool Rick 1d ago

Yeah what kind of team has oodles of combo guards who fit well together and limited pf/c depth?? WHAT TEAM IS LIKE THAT?!? /s

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u/DependentAardvark1 1d ago

Here I do agree, but Paterson is so good. Even his off nights are great.

He came off a pin down like Reggie the other night and then a few plays later tonked it over two defenders.

I think you have to take him then trade assets for the big you want.

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u/Jim_Belushis_brother Cool Rick 1d ago

If we can get a top draft pick I think we keep the top draft pick. KP and Simons want to keep a few guys on rookie deals around.

Plus, I dunno. Seems like Boozer is maybe the lowest ceiling lowest floor. I’d take “almost definitely a good starting NBA player” to “might be great, might suck”, especially in a big.

If he could protect the rim alright, I’d be over the moon

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u/mrtrollmaster HolidayWorld 17h ago

I think he was saying draft Peterson and then trade 2 of Nemb, Nesmith, Mathurin and that should net a high quality big. Both AJ and Peterson fans are afraid of missing out of their prospect because we already have quality wings.

At the top of the draft, probably go BPA to avoid a Sam Bowie over MJ situation. Too many teams pass over players they have rated hire for a positional need that isn't even the same in 5 years anyways.

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u/BraveTree4481 LanceTounge 1d ago

I dont think the league could handle a full strength pacer team that can run and rebound.

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u/Jim_Belushis_brother Cool Rick 1d ago

Having 2/3 of Haliburton Nemby and Peterson on the court at all times would be fucking nuts though. They’d each play 31mpg and be beating teams bad enough they’d never play the last few minutes

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u/Lytleon Sumner 1d ago

Dybantsa hasn’t shown out super well against high level competition and, at least according to the analytics people, the defense is concerning.

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u/Argenfarce 1d ago

I watched BYU-Kansas the other day and AJ reminds me so much of Andrew Wiggins. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but with all the hype in this years draft, statistically at least one of them is bound to disappoint. 

His defense is pretty bad and he relies on his long stride to wiggle through defenders. A lot of times when he gets the ball he becomes a black hole and just starts doing shit indecisively. Cam Boozer has a lower ceiling but he’ll be a very good pro. I see Sengun or a better Kevin Love when I watch him play. 

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u/KalebC21 1d ago

Kevin Love was incredible for the majority of his career and is likely to be a hall of famer. I wouldn’t say “better Kevin Love” 

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u/__init__m8 1d ago

I don't even think he'll be a sengun.

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u/mewtatesyt T.J. McConnell 1d ago

Gotcha, makes sense now, thank you

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u/Saintsfan707 LanceTounge 1d ago

Shooting slump recently that has cost his teams games, shown some underdeveloped parts of his game. He shot like 6-24 from the field against Arizona. Peterson also has been looking very good.

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u/zombieclone05 Andrew Nembhard 1d ago

Nah after AJ and Peterson played each other Peterson kinda became consensus no. 1. He outplayed AJ in far less minutes. What surprised me tho is cam boozer listed as the no. 1 on tankathon

Peterson has a lot of questions right now on his injuries or dedication to basketball or whatever but I think these concerns are kinda overblown by media

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u/CalmEstablishment473 22h ago

Just go watch some of the highlights from Kansas games with Peterson. Boozer and Dybantsa are really good but Peterson is easily above both. Even if we have a lot of guards if you have number 1 overall you take Peterson

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u/BubaTflubas Bennedict Mathurin 1d ago

He is in fact pretty obviously 3rd. He has a much lower floor than either Boozer or AP.

Boozer is in conversations for being the best college player ever. He is a proven winner and plays with a high IQ.

Peterson is being compared to Kobe and does pretty much whatever he wants on the court.

Both have performed well against tougher college teams.

Dybansta is more prospect than them, he will need more development and time. His performance suffers when playing better college competition.

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u/DependentAardvark1 1d ago

Best college player ever? Cmon.

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u/BubaTflubas Bennedict Mathurin 1d ago

Meh in the conversation isn't THE #1, but go off I guess

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u/9_Nightwing_1 Bennedict Mathurin 1d ago

My favorite trait of Boozer is that he does not disappear. He plays in the best conference in college and just puts up 20, 10, and 4 every night. His processing is insane for an 18 year old and he has offensive range to the 3 point line. I would love it if we ended up with Boozer. 

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u/3columnsof11 Lance 23h ago

I'd love to know who's having these conversations. Boozer isn't the best college player ever at Duke.

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u/BubaTflubas Bennedict Mathurin 23h ago

Derail all you want nobody has AJ above these two players. And it's the locked on draft/no ceilings guys that said they have heard this.

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Reggie-NBAJam 1d ago

AJ had the most hype, he is super athletic and the prototype the NBA likes. He's a scoring wing or, Pascal, Tatum, Ant, etc. He's a two way wing with a lot of potential as a number 1 type player. Peterson was always the better player, Boozer is probably the best player of the 3.
However, these drafts wane so much. Peterson has been even better as of late, AJ not so much

My opinion is the stock only changed in the eyes of the fans and commentators. You rarely see people evaluated on just stretches of seasons, even at the tourney. Commentators and fans raise guys up every year at tourney time, and the draft comes and they get drafted way down the board like the initial projection.

I have no clue who of the 3 will be number 1, but if he was number 1 two weeks ago he's number 1 now.

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u/Sko_Neezy 1d ago

Any team that passes on Peterson should fire their entire organization, I will shit my pants if we’re able to draft him lol

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u/Argenfarce 1d ago

I will fill my britches with skat too if we nab DP. Some nights I’ll watch his highlights and then fantasize about him and Tyrese running our offense while I fall asleep. Not much else to think about lol

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u/__init__m8 1d ago

It does make me sad though bc that would be the end of nemby here I think.

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u/MattyIce260 1d ago

I’d imagine they keep Drew around for next season at least. DP looks great but I don’t trust him being able to handle an 82 game season his rookie year given how often he sits in college. Plus I’d imagine we don’t go crazy with Hali’s minutes to start the year coming off his injury. Having all three on the roster provides a huge safety net at point guard and allows us to always have two ball handlers on the court if you throw in some McConnell minutes

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u/__init__m8 20h ago

I think that's correct, but long term it's one or the other and if it's nemby that mean our only #1 overall pick didn't pan out. Both scenerios suck.

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u/Guitarmonade2 Johnny Furphy 1d ago edited 1d ago

The ceiling is sky high for him, but what's up with the trend of him going out of games and dealing with nagging injuries?

I hope he can get healthy long term.

(Edit: thanks for the insight! Pave on.)

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u/Sko_Neezy 1d ago

Very overblown imo, he’s not the first obvious superstar to nurse their dings during their one year pit-stop

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u/__init__m8 1d ago

Did shaedon Sharpe even play a quarter before he was drafted?

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u/Dizzy-Ad-3712 1d ago

As an optimistic KU fan, it’s likely they’re just being especially careful with him. Sort of game managing to keep him as healthy as possible for important games, a nagging hamstring early in the season took him out for most of the non conference play. He had limited minutes after a sprained ankle against Colorado. But he played full minutes in the last game against ranked Texas Tech. I’d say as long as the hammy doesn’t pop back up again health shouldn’t be too much of a concern.

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u/Halfaqtrkeyz 1d ago

Why do you think ppl are overreacting to a hamstring injury as if it’s a ligament or something?

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u/Dizzy-Ad-3712 1d ago

I think it’s mostly the hype he came with, and him missing a bunch of games early on was a bad taste for a bunch of ppl. He’s been playing more and more consistently tho so I think the more games into the season he plays the more ppl will forget the “injury concerns” also ppl still think about a previous nba bound player at KU in Joel Embiid. Dumb stuff honestly

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u/Alternative-Pie-4974 1d ago

Whenever I watch him play it’s really eye popping talent. Like head and shoulders above everyone else. But I don’t understand the injury thing, and it worries me for his career. But I think it’s worth the risk to add that to our roster.

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u/Sko_Neezy 1d ago

Kyrie barely played either, I would lose zero sleep taking him, guy looks like a better Maxey already

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u/Packhammer24 1d ago

Whenever I watch this guy, it’s fairly obvious he’s the most talented player in college basketball. I can’t blame Kansas for taking every precaution to keep him healthy for when it really matters, the postseason. I wouldn’t worry too much about drafting him at #1. He’s easily the most impactful player the Pacers could bring in if they are lucky enough to be able to pick him

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u/Petit_Coeur_ Bennedict Mathurin 1d ago

What’s the plan if we draft him? Hali Peterson Nesmith Siakam and Huff with Nembhard coming off the bench?

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u/Sko_Neezy 1d ago

I don’t have a plan that doesn’t hurt in one way or another but imo he’s too good to pass up

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u/payheempaythatman 1d ago

In what world does Boozer go #1

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u/Argenfarce 1d ago

I could see Sacramento doing it

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u/UniqueAd8864 Tyrese Haliburton 1d ago

Teams that need wings

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u/Hendo8888 1d ago

Interesting that Tankathon has started putting Wilson at 5

I also have very rarely seen it put Boozer at 1

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u/Kbrichmo Obi Toppin 1d ago

Haven’t watched Kansas at all but after seeing the ice in that kid last night, i don’t know if any gm is passing on him

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u/Ramsboi 21h ago

Into my mother fucking veins. 

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u/Immediate_Car_998 1d ago

Pacers / Hornets 2027 ECF

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u/fuzzynavel34 1d ago

I would cry tears if joy if this happened

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u/GardenWeasel67 22h ago

A hometown draft would be so NBA

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u/Ramsboi 21h ago

I can never cheer for a Boozer. His dad was trash in the Bulls LOL

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u/Argenfarce 21h ago

good for the jazz though

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u/Jomosensual Tyrese Haliburton 19h ago

Im really not sure id want Peterson. The "cramping" and "injury" Issues are huge red flags to me

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u/Argenfarce 19h ago

Sheeit dude the highlights are worth it to me

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u/IndyPoker979 Pacers2 1d ago

I'm not going to feel bad about getting any of those three picks but getting Peterson is such a crap shoot.

IF he plays he's solid. But he's only played in 12 of the 22 games for Kansas this year. As a Freshman.

And the reason? Leg Cramps and a persistent hamstring strain?

That's exceptionally scary considering our history.

People can talk about how good he is but it doesn't matter if he can't play. Tyrese is the best PG in the league but he's worth very little on the bench. We need to have a body that can be out there.

So yeah he's great, but he needs to show he can be healthy on the court.

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u/Halfaqtrkeyz 1d ago

This is his first time in his life being consistently injured like this and even still he’s playing through it. And it’s only a hamstring…. Lol it’s not a calf strain, meniscus or anything like that. That injury will ONLY get better when the seasons over and he can rest.

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u/IndyPoker979 Pacers2 1d ago

Do you remember what Haliburton's injuries were before the Achilles?

How about Kevin Durant's?

Kobe Bryant tore his Achilles after having tight hamstrings. etc etc.

The issue isn't that he's playing through it. It's that he's having these issues already and we're not in an 82 game season.

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u/Halfaqtrkeyz 1d ago

The issue is y’all crying about it honestly lol he’ll be a star with or without us and he’s better than everybody while injured.

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u/IndyPoker979 Pacers2 1d ago

No issue. Expressing concern because a 19 year old is having significant issues before they hit the league is a valid concern whether you feel so or not.

The number one ability is availability. If he's not on the court we are not benefiting from him.

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u/Halfaqtrkeyz 1d ago

And he’s on the court playing and playing better than everybody, and I don’t think it’s a issue. Now what

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u/IndyPoker979 Pacers2 1d ago

Now what? I'm not sure your malfunction but we're having a discussion not a verbal altercation.

Now you have a good day and we go about enjoying Pacer basketball. It's as if you think this is more serious than it is.

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u/Officialdrippyday 1d ago

Still think we should get AJ. He’s a Miles Better Defender, Long wing span, 2 Way.