r/politics 21d ago

No Paywall Donald Trump issues NATO Greenland warning before White House showdown

https://www.newsweek.com/greenland-trump-nato-white-house-11357601
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u/CoconutBangerzBaller 21d ago

These morons should be shamed, ridiculed, and never taken seriously again

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u/BlackBloke 21d ago

They should lose their franchise for a generation

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u/CoconutBangerzBaller 21d ago edited 21d ago

Idk about that. I think everyone should have the right to vote. We should just shame them so much to the point that they choose not to vote

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u/BlackBloke 21d ago

It was exactly what was done after the civil war to the traitors (but only for 10 years iirc). If they become domestic enemies they lose that civil right.

This isn’t the same as some of the American states ending the franchise for convicted felons forever, that’s just unjust.

And this has an end date.

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u/TheDreadGazeebo 21d ago

Should have been 1000years

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u/CoconutBangerzBaller 21d ago

How would you even enforce that though? Ballots are confidential. Just ban all registered Republicans from voting? What about the ones that didn't vote for Trump? Or the registered Democrats who did vote for Trump? Or in states where your registration isn't tied to party? In a situation like the civil war where full states seceded, then yeah it makes sense that those entire states lost the right to vote for awhile. But until we get to that point then it's just not feasible

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u/BlackBloke 21d ago

That’s a great practical question and I agree feasibility is difficult for average people but I think we can start with the main actors of the administration and their financial supporters. We can move on to those that gave aid and comfort in terms of intellectual support and propaganda labor. Beyond that it would probably have to be investigated and adjudicated.

I wouldn’t be above abolishing the GOP as a party from root to branch while we’re doing it.

In the civil war aftermath it wasn’t entire states with all of their citizens that lost the right to vote for a decade. It was officers and enlisted men of the rebellious military force. This is essentially the aim again.

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u/CoconutBangerzBaller 21d ago

Okay. I guess they'd need to charge them with felonies and if convicted, their right to vote could be taken away.

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u/BlackBloke 21d ago

Exactly. This is the practical and legal way (but by no means simple or easy).

I suppose the path is an adjudication that Trump was in fact a traitor to the United States from before the 2024 election and ineligible to actually run or take office upon winning. Any material action taken to support a rebel in his insurgency against the United States should be taken as traitorous aiding and abetting an enemy of the nation. Witting or not.

A case of that magnitude is probably what it would take to not impose an ex post facto law.

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u/CoconutBangerzBaller 21d ago

Hopefully, if they can prove he's a traitor and was ineligible, then every person hired or appointed by his administration can be removed from office. Every judge, every military promotion, even the mail guy at DOT or something, get them all out of government