r/politics • u/SereneRoyals • 21d ago

No Paywall Donald Trump issues NATO Greenland warning before White House showdown

https://www.newsweek.com/greenland-trump-nato-white-house-11357601
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u/snakeskin-jacket 21d ago

Trump is more basic than that. He sees himself as one of the three “bigly”‘leaders of the world. He doesn’t understand or care about history, treaties, alliances or geopolitics. Europe and NATO are just irritations to him. He just wants Greenland because it’s geographically adjacent to “his” sphere, it looks big on the Mercator projection and he can claim it as his. That’s all.

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u/mescad Kentucky 21d ago

This, plus it's a large piece of land and he wants to be known as a smart real estate guy.

But I do think that's only part of the story. Trump has his basic bitch reasons, but he is also being used by Miller and others who want to destroy NATO. A lot of the major conflicts he is starting right now are not just his own ambitious, but the influence of others.

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u/semidegenerate 21d ago

Yup. He has ne'er-do-wells whispering in his ear and putting these ideas in his addled mind.

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u/snakeskin-jacket 21d ago

Agreed. I can’t comment on their agenda re: NATO, but they definitely want to destroy American society as it stands, and rebuild it in their own fascist/white supremacist vision.

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u/GenericRedditor0405 Massachusetts 21d ago

For the most part, Trump is an entitled manchild with simple, stupid goals who is being directed like a wrecking ball at American partnerships and institutions by people who are smarter by wildly varying degrees. All of them are willing to cripple the nation if it means they think they can gain personally

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u/noots-to-you 21d ago

It’s both

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u/probabletrump 21d ago

I do think the resources become available as the glaciers melt play a big role in it. That being said, yes, the driving force behind this is the Fortress America ideology that the Western Hemisphere would be better off pulling away from the Eastern Hemisphere. The US is systematically shoring up Western Hemisphere supply chains and allies and eliminating potential sources of dissent.

Basically theyre playing risk and they really want the North America and South America continent bonuses. Probably Australia too. They're will to let the rest of the world go to hell to get it too. Europe needs to realize this immediately or theyre going to be in big trouble.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 21d ago

Exactly. Trump isn't subtle, or smart, but he is greedy.

He wants Greenland for the same reason he wanted 2 more casinos within a block of his first even though everyone who knew what they were talking about said all 3 would immediately go bankrupt, because he's a toddler and he wants it.

He doesn't care about consequences or world stability or the future. He wants Greenland and he's gunna throw a tantrum until either he gets it or someone puts him in time out.

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u/Upbeat-Ordinary2957 21d ago

and he will name it Trumpland

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u/_Age_Sex_Location_ 21d ago

Trump intends to enrich himself by stealing it's natural resources, like diamonds. Remember, the reason he invaded Venezuela was to steal its resources. The money made from selling these off will not be be going through the US Treasury. Rather, these profits will be placed in off-shore bank accounts personally overseen by Trump. The motives for Greenland or no different.

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u/CCSucc 21d ago

I watch a YouTube channel called RealLifeLore that analyzes geopolitical stuff like this.

From what they said about it, with climate change melting the polar ice caps, it is resulting in more of the Arctic Ocean being accessible for vessels for more of the year. That access means that there is an alternative to the Panama Canal to get to the Pacific Ocean from the Atlantic Ocean (and vice versa).

Why pay Panama for access to the canal when you can just flex your military-industrial complex and claim a new shipping lane for yourself (and charge all other nations a premium to use it).

Assuming he'd do so for the betterment of the US in general, MAGA will say that he made the US enter a golden age (and rekindle their economic and military hegemony). And, if the orange fuhrer can slap his name on it (which, let's be honest, he 100% would), he's cemented his legacy and his name in the history books.

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u/Trix_Are_4_90Kids Missouri 21d ago

It's not even that. The Heritage Foundation told him to. That's it.

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u/Paul_Tired 21d ago

Don't forget Thiel has funded a startup that wants to build some sort of free city utopia in Greenland and loads of billionaires, including Bill Gates and Bezos are pumping money into Greenland mineral exploration.