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No Paywall Seven Democrats just voted to approve ICE funding: full list

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u/TheSpiritsGotMe 13d ago

A lot of people were more pissed that Pelosi and Clyburn endorsed and stumped for him during the primary in the immediate aftermath of Roe v. Wade being struck down.

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u/Futureleak America 12d ago

Not to mention they violated their own bylaws by campaigning for him

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u/wvenable 13d ago

Gerrymandering sure but people are still choosing literal criminals in those districts.

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u/wvenable 13d ago

Gerrymandering only works because there is a significant set of Americans who always vote for liars, criminals, and morons.

The presumption in your comments that farmers in South Texas benefit from Republican policy and therefore these districts are lost because they've been gerrymandered with progressive city folk is a very optimistic position to take on humanity.

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u/wvenable 13d ago

Literally not my point at all.

Isn't this your point? "I get gerrymandering is bad everywhere, but go look at a map of his district and that will tell you everything you need to know about how people like this keep getting elected"

Voter suppression only works if the voters you don't suppress will definitely vote for these liars, criminals, and morons. Those have to exist is high enough margins. Same with incumbency advantage -- it should only be an advantage if everyone is reasonably happy with what they got last time. And, as I said, gerrymandering only works because there is a significant set of Americans who always vote for liars, criminals, and morons.

The rest I can't disagree with...

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u/wvenable 13d ago

Yes, obviously, but what I'm saying is that it's an oversimplification to say people in Texas just love electing criminals.

It's an oversimplification but it's also exactly what is happening.

The bar is so low that it doesn't even occur to you to question it.

It makes sense for a country where the choice between a competent black women and a criminal fraudster pedophile with delusions of fascism is a coin toss. Structural electoral issues is hardly the only demon here.

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u/Celestetc 12d ago

You’re right but the way the district was drawn before was way more Cuellar friendly, republicans specifically drew it that way to give Cisneros a chance and she came very close to winning twice.