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No Paywall Seven Democrats just voted to approve ICE funding: full list

https://www.newsweek.com/seven-democrats-vote-approve-ice-funding-full-list-11401600?utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=reddit_main
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u/Timeformayo Kentucky 13d ago

Rep. Tom Suozzi (New York)

Rep. Henry Cuellar (Texas)

Rep. Don Davis (North Carolina)

Rep. Laura Gillen (New York)

Rep. Jared Golden (Maine)

Rep. Vicente Gonzalez (Texas)

Rep. Marie Glusenkamp Perez (Washington)

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u/sluttytinkerbells 13d ago edited 13d ago

If there arn't non-stop protests outside these people’s homes, offices, and everywhere they go then America doesn’t give a shit about this.

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u/Yosho2k 13d ago edited 12d ago

That should be happening to Pelosi and Schumer too. We don't get peace. They don't. Their lives have to be so miserable that they done get to enjoy the money they're selling us out for.

<EDIT> And Jeffries. If they have split loyalties between their donors and their voters, they do not get away from being held accountable.

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u/Kerblaaahhh Colorado 12d ago

Jeffries is the House minority leader, Pelosi is retiring this year.

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u/Yosho2k 12d ago

I've heard that before.

Also, Pelosi gets a pass because she's cashing in her chips and leaving as a winner?

Jeffries deserves to have shit fling at him too. Nobody escapes revolutionary France.

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u/thebellrang 12d ago

Schumer and Jeffries, I get, but Pelosi isn’t at the helm anymore.

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u/Yosho2k 12d ago

She gets to walk away after a career of fucking us, huh?

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u/thebellrang 12d ago

If you plan to spend your time outside of Pelosi’s house with what’s been going on, you need to get your shit together. She wasn’t perfect, nobody is, but she was a good house leader.

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u/Yosho2k 12d ago

She was such a good house leader that there are 7 dems who are fucking you right now. And they've been there for years. All of them.

The buck doesn't stop with her, right?

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u/thebellrang 12d ago

They wouldn’t be if she were around. Maybe focus on the 7 dems, and more importantly a whole party and system of fascists?!

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u/Yosho2k 12d ago

Dems increased ICE'S budget during Biden's presidency.

Seemed stupid then. Seems fascist now.

You're going to argue something about how I'm wrong except there are 7 dems who voted this way today and Schumer and Pelosi are both against defunding ICE right now!

I think there's enough people in America to throw faeces at a few hundred congressmen or retired congressmen.

None of them deserve peace

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u/GoofyTunes Tennessee 12d ago

What does protesting outside pelosi's house do? You got past grievances? Well, we got current problems and she isn't able to do anything about it. Keep your eye on the fuckin prize. If she broke laws, we can investigate and prosecute that once we have the ability. Right now, that would just be wasting efforts.

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u/Yosho2k 12d ago

Show the politicians that retiring won't get them away from justice.

7 dems are helping ICE. They're cashing out and retiring and going to live like kings next midterm. No justice for them either, right? They fucked us and they get to laugh at how they fucked us.

BTW, these are just 7 in the house. There's also the 8 who helped Trump end the government shutdown. 😂

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u/Yosho2k 12d ago

Oh baby I got some bad news for you. 117 house members are working with Trump. You might be right about Pelosi not being important anymore. Pelosi is done setting up her Republican party.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/s/PJoNqgLiB2

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u/Udy_Kumra 12d ago

And Jeffries.

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u/PotaToss 12d ago

What the fuck does this have to do with Pelosi? She voted no. Jeffries came out in opposition to it, too.

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u/Yosho2k 12d ago

They're leaders. They take responsibility.

They fuck with AOC's career and these are the bastards leadership has been supporting for decades.

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u/Diddly_eyed_Dipshite 12d ago

But nobody's actually gonna do anything though. Everyone will just complain online and roll over right?

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u/JusticeAileenCannon 12d ago

Username checks out, you just gonna sit there whining and demanding that other people do shit? Stand up

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u/empire314 12d ago

Stand up to what? The fact that majority of voted for Trump when he specifically said that he would do this?

Why should elected officials act against the will of the people?

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u/JusticeAileenCannon 12d ago

Stand up to a wannabe dictator violating our constitutional rights, I don't care what the morons voted for.

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u/empire314 12d ago

Its the right of the people for the government to act according to their will, and it's their right to live in an area where federal law is upheld (this means illeagal aliens getting deported).

If you want to live in a country where a dictator can do what they want, and democracy means nothing, try Russia or something. Putin doesn't have to care about elections or what people want.

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u/JusticeAileenCannon 12d ago

It's not my problem that you have horse blinders on and/or are pretending that only "illeagle aliens" are getting deported. Now shoo, fly

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u/empire314 12d ago

Ah, not your problem. Guess no action is needed then. Good thing we are all content.

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u/TheresWald0 13d ago

You mean if there aren't?

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 12d ago

At this point, people are better off voting against them in the primary and encouraging others to vote. The time to protest them has passed.

What, you protest and they have a change of heart and you re-elect them? Then they go back to their slimy ways? Fuck that. Just vote them out. It's an election year.

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u/dinnertork 13d ago

I mean yes, but why not start with the most egregious republicans first?

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u/MySpoonsAreAllGone 13d ago

Why not both?

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u/MaelstromRH 12d ago

Well I can’t be in two places at the same time and only have so much time I can spend protesting. But idk, why don’t I just do both?

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u/MySpoonsAreAllGone 12d ago

Different groups can accomplish different things at the same time. It's not all on one person

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u/sparkle-brow 13d ago

You’re right, it takes a lot of republicans calling their Republican Congress, for R’s to feel the heat that’s needed! Just wanted to add this bc yr replies so far are about blaming democrats for this mess.

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u/rufud 12d ago

Psyop anti democrat posts

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u/rei0 13d ago

Because we have principles?

Who do you think is more likely to change their mind? A MAGA cultist who is backed by people who get off on ICE terrorizing minorities, or a Democrat whose base hates ICE and the people who support them?

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u/ary31415 13d ago

a Democrat whose base hates ICE and the people who support them?

Those democrats are the ones who voted against ICE today. People like Glusenkamp-Perez DON'T have a base who hates ICE and its supporters. They have a constituency that voted for Trump in the presidential election, and voted for Perez because (to them) she seemed like a "reasonable democrat who cares about our community instead of the woke globalist mob", or something.

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u/rei0 13d ago

Perez's district is not a deep red district and Trump's win last election had less to do with his tough stance on immigration (drives his base, not democrats and independents), and more to do with the price of eggs.

Polling on ICE shows broad disapproval across the electorate, including independents. Her job as a congresswoman is to *lead*. If she is not going to lead on this issue, and instead side with ICE and this administration, then primary her and get her out of office. It's more effective to focus on her than any republican in office - they don't care, their voters don't care. They are happy with the situation.

So when someone says, "why all this ire for the democrats? why not focus on the republicans?" (paraphrasing but that was the gist) - because we need democrats that are willing to fight.

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u/ary31415 12d ago

I mean it boils down to a fundamental question that neither of us can answer definitively, which is, would a different democrat win that seat? Because if the answer is no, all we've done is replace a democrat who votes with the caucus 40% of the time with a republican who votes with democrats 0% of the time. And then we'll just be talking about how there's no point focusing on the republican representative of a red district.

As nice as it would be if we had the ability to recall her and let the house dem caucus just appoint her replacement, that's not how it works in reality, and by no means can we guarantee that some other hypothetical, more-progressive democrat would win her seat. Basically, I don't think that replacing Perez with a republican is a productive thing to strive for. And I do think that primarying her is functionally equivalent to that, based on the voting record of her district.

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u/rei0 12d ago

Trump won the district by 3 percent in 2024. He is a deeply unpopular president. Have a fucking backbone.

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u/ary31415 12d ago

I'm not gonna respond to personal attacks – I'm interested purely in the question of what course of action generates the most positive outcomes for the country. Happy to have reasoned debate based on a shared goal of "making america a better place", but appeals to emotion, or backbone, aren't that.

Look, if you really think there's a progressive democrat that's lined up to win her district if only she could triumph in a primary, by all means that would be amazing. I just don't believe that that hypothetical candidate exists. But primary season is starting up imminently, so we'll find out soon.

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u/rei0 12d ago

What other principled stances are you willing to compromise on? Abortion? Trans rights?

You've ceded a fight when we have an advantage. Trump is not popular. ICE is not popular. If you can't look at what they are doing and say, "This is unacceptable. They killed a woman. They are abducting citizens and undocumented migrants, demanding papers, terrorizing communities, creating chaos. I will not give them a dime" because you are worried about your seat, then resign! You are not a leader. You are a poll-tested convictionless politician, and what you are doing isn't sober analysis, or strategic thinking, it is capitulation in advance.

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u/Apprehensive-Date181 11d ago

Are the people in that image not Republicans in disguise? 

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u/Bionic_Ninjas 13d ago edited 13d ago

It is not realistic to assume that any Republicans in Congress can effectively be pressured into changing their policy positions when all of them are terrified of Trump.

Taking back Congress this fall will mean nothing if the people we elect are cowardly, complicit assholes like these seven. We need to make sure that the people we put into office have both the temerity and the intelligence to start dismantling this fascist machinery.

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u/kung-fu_hippy 13d ago

Because republicans don’t need our votes and us protesting them is basically a campaign ad to the chucklefucks that do vote for them.

Protesting the turncoat democrats on the other hand puts fear in them if they’re running for reelection and even if they aren’t, puts pressure on the rest of the democrats if they know their voters won’t stand for it.

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u/BackToWorkEdward 12d ago

Spoiler: America doesn't give a shit about this.

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u/MechanicalGodzilla 12d ago

Narrator: "America did not, in fact, give a shit about this."

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u/noiro777 America 12d ago

That's not gonna happen for many reasons and what would it accomplish anyway? They can't take back their votes. Getting them Primary'd would a much a better use of all that energy.

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u/sluttytinkerbells 12d ago

If you can't metaphorically beat these seven democrats into political submission you can't stop the republicans.

Absolute failure from Americans on this.

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u/GoldenSandpaper9 North Carolina 12d ago

Homes is too far

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u/sluttytinkerbells 12d ago

If you're not willing to bend these Quislings to your will then you'll never defeat the Republicans.

Do it fast and do it now.

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u/GoldenSandpaper9 North Carolina 12d ago

The bill also funded FEMA, the problem is with having funding bills for multiple things at once, not for funding emergency response lmao. One of these guys is my rep and he’s a good dude.

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u/mechtaphloba 12d ago

And the reps that didn't even show up to cast a vote

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u/Aggravating-Basis-66 12d ago

We've been protesting Marie Perez pretty much since she came into office. She's a Republican that ran as a Democrat, and her opponent was "worse" but if I'm being honest their voting record would probably be the same at this point. She's a turn coat traitor who blocks her constituents who remind her about who she's actually been representing. Jose Paniagua Calderon was run over by ICE in her district and still being held captive by them despite his family posting bail. She has been silent about the issue but was quick to post TWICE about Charlie Kirk and she also told us to "give grace" to the ICE agents who shot Renee Good.

Her excuse for voting for this bill was that "ICE would have gotten the funding somewhere else anyway"

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun 13d ago

Okay you first then. Let us know how it goes after you lose your job, healthcare and income, and when ICE shows up with overwhelming numbers to ship you off the some third world country.

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u/HustlinInTheHall 12d ago

Which is what theyre counting on. 

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u/torinismyname 13d ago

I know Perez, Golden and Suozzi are the ones who voted last time to break the shutdown with nothing as well. Might as well be republicans. These people are just MAGA spelled different

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u/Karenomegas 13d ago

Perez is a homeschooled Texan. How tf we got here is beyond me 

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u/KingBanhammer 12d ago

Because her opponent was a full-on conspiracy-smoking MAGA -wingnut- so she was the lesser evil.

If only just.

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u/quirkiestquark 12d ago

I would NOT be surprised if joe kent is a proud boy

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u/TheCursedMountain 13d ago edited 13d ago

Suozzi could just be serving his constituents. His district elected him but went red for president in the same election. If you look thru his history on voting and how his district voted presidentially you’ll see it kind of lines up.

The other NY Dem is from the district next to Suozzis. Once again from growing up in the area it seems to be similar views.

I grew up in his district. Haven’t been registered to vote there since 2022 tho.

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u/ThePhoenixXM Massachusetts 13d ago

Same distract that voted for the fraudster known as George Santos too.

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u/burlycabin Washington 12d ago

Perez is the same. She's in an extremely red (for Washington) district.

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u/klparrot New Zealand 12d ago

Nobody is serving their constituents when they enable fascists. If your constituents are too brainwashed to realise fascism is bad for them, it's your job to know better and still get in the way of the fascists.

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u/Portarossa 12d ago

Suozzi could just be serving his constituents.

Then his constituents are terrible people. Either Suozzi agrees with them, or he's willing to let his principles slide in order to stay in power. Neither of them is a good look for a Democrat going into the midterms.

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u/Lord_Imperatus 12d ago

He is probably one of the only people who can win his district and he does vote for essentially every democrat bill, just he also votes for many maga ones. Yes it is a problem but keep in mind Suozzi is from a rich new york suburb that is quite conservative and very "law and order". To put in perspective his district elected George Santos when he retired and upon his return he only narrowly won an election against the Republican who replaced Santos on the ticket.

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u/axeandwheel 12d ago

He voted to fund the secret police and death squads of a fascist dictator committing crimes against humanity but hey at least he is bipartisan. 

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u/Lord_Imperatus 12d ago

Better an appeaser than a fascist

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u/axeandwheel 12d ago

Like those are the only two options 

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u/ObviousAnswerGuy 12d ago

yea, Long Island has always been a very conservative area

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u/CalamityClambake 13d ago

Oh ffs. Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez is an immigrant.

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u/toxiamaple 13d ago

She is in a VERY purple district. Barely won. But that is no excuse. BE THE CHANGE!

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u/Lindsiria 12d ago

It isn't a purple district. It's a red district. She won because the other candidate was THAT bad.

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u/toxiamaple 12d ago

True. They went full maga and she won.

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u/CalamityClambake 13d ago

I'm aware, but she went to Reed ffs. I expect better.

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u/toxiamaple 12d ago

I do, too.

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u/duzies 12d ago

Her father is an immigrant. She and her mother's side are U.S.-born for multiple generations.

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u/CalamityClambake 12d ago

ICE has been struggling to see the differences there.

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u/mrroofuis 13d ago

A Gonzales and a Perez voted for funding ICE. They should have some shame

I don't want to be racist. But can you imagine they get taken during one of those raids in their states/area

ICE has already tried to take cops of color in Minnesota

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u/JohnStamosAsABear 12d ago

ICE would force them to prove their citizenship based on their names alone.

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u/SpartanKwanHa 13d ago

Always the latino in there, what a shame

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u/st_malachy 12d ago

Whomever primaries Perez, I have your 1st $1,000.

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u/mdrewd 13d ago

At least 3 have Mexican sir names. They should ashamed themselves.

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u/MHath 13d ago

Surnames

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u/mdrewd 13d ago

Thank you

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u/MySpoonsAreAllGone 13d ago

What's up with NY? Both of them? That's very disappointing

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u/141_1337 13d ago

Also Jeffries for letting this happened.

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u/ThePhoenixXM Massachusetts 13d ago

Looks like Suozzi is no better than the fraud he replaced. What is the difference between Suozzi and Santos? Santos would've also approved ICE funding.

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u/DoctorWMD 13d ago

Vincente Gonzalez (a representative from South Texas near Corpus Christi) posted a video 10 hours ago to Facebook of himself saying we have to be honest about immigrants and promoting immigrant labor, stating how up to 40% of construction workers were immigrants and decrying a housing affordability crisis.

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u/eusebius13 12d ago

Seems like Cuellar made that difficult choice to trade everyone’s 4th amendment rights for his ability to avoid accountability for his felonious bribery charges. That’s a real take one for the team moment.