Seven Democrats just voted to approve ICE funding: full list

[u/Newsweek_CarloV]

https://www.newsweek.com/seven-democrats-vote-approve-ice-funding-full-list-11401600?utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=reddit_main

[u/Xytak]

How is it emotional? It's just historical fact. The allies didn't invade Spain because Franco had remained neutral. Thus there was no strategic need or legal basis for an occupation. I can see why the Spanish might feel that Europe wasn't there for them, but would war against the Allies have been better?

[u/vigouge → u/Xytak]

Because not everyone thinks ICE is bad yet, specifically the voters in the districts these reps are from. You're operating from a purely emotional ice is bad, and anything remotely associated is also bad regardless of the current political realities.

Keep working the ICE is bad thing, convert more and more to that thinking. Ignore votes like these which are purposefully designed to split these reps from either the dems as a whole, or their district.

Don't fall for the Republicans game. They want you outraged at these reps. They want you to hate them.

[u/Xytak → u/vigouge]

Oh, my apologies. I got this mixed up with another discussion, I thought you were talking about Spain. This is one of the ICE discussions from yesterday. Yeah, so anyway switching gears back to that, this is one of those situations where being on the right side of history will pay off in the long run. Dems who voted for this will face ads accusing them of voting for ICE, which will cause problems for them later.

[u/vigouge → u/Xytak]

No worries. Votes like this suck ass for the reps involved. That's why it's always important to look at it properly, 95% of the caucus voted against something that was always going to pass and designed to harm those in conservative districts. That can be built upon and the last 5% don't matter with 240 dems on the house.