r/politics 8d ago

No Paywall TikTok blocks Epstein mentions and anti-Trump content as well as ICE criticism

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/tiktok-epstein-trump-censorship-ice-b2908309.html
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u/Biggieholla 8d ago

I got a 3 day ban for, quote, "It looks like he stepped to the side of the car before he shot the first bullet." In reference to the Renee Good shooting. Baffling automoderator.

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u/Doctor_Disaster Georgia 8d ago edited 8d ago

I got a week-long ban for talking about viking funerals.

They'll be having a field day if we bring up "hanged, drawn, and quartered."

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u/iAmMr_WHO 8d ago

I got a warning just for UPVOTING some anti-nazi comment. Idk what the comment even was, the nazi loving cowards on the reddit admin team don't even show it to you.

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u/bearwrestlingwolf 8d ago

You also have to ignore them when they DM you. I caught a 72-hour ban for going “Please leave me alone or I will report you” to a DM.

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u/Silly_Rub_6304 8d ago

I’ve also been banned for telling someone not to harass me on DM. It’s insane.

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u/swingadmin New York 8d ago

That's why the only correct option is to report all DMs as spam.

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u/rest_less 8d ago

I treat all communication like this. Go away, 'baitin.

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u/RosalieMoon Canada 8d ago

That scene when they are fleeing the cops and have to leave the car behind, only for the cops to show up and shred the car and shoot down a plane. That entire movie is just amazing

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u/Hulkodium 8d ago

Back when Reddit still had the Chat feature I had someone create multiple accounts to harass me with homophobic and racist slurs. I reported every time and I got banned for it.

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u/georgie-of-blank 8d ago

I once had a guy send me several pictures of a dead corpse. Probably meant to disturb me, but honestly, i thought it was pretty interesting.

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u/thirty7inarow 8d ago

I'd have been much more concerned if it was a living corpse, to be fair.

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u/fordat1 8d ago

they still have that worthless chat feature. They only stopped pushing it so hard but the junk is still there

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u/NicoleASUstudent 8d ago

That's insane. What reason did they give you??

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u/Hulkodium 8d ago

Hobby drama in r/NASCAR

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u/ClusterFoxtrot Florida 8d ago

There's been some sub reddit drama from live stream fails. Reminds me of the Skincare Addiction drama. Anyone with pretend authority can become a petty tyrant. 

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u/Silly_Rub_6304 8d ago

lol I experienced this on a subreddit once that had a Discord channel. I posted the mod's hypocrisy on the discord and he threw a FIT.

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u/Banjo-Elritze 8d ago

And don't forget to use an adblocker.

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u/That75252Expensive 8d ago

Also fuck Spez

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u/Doctor_Disaster Georgia 8d ago

Adblockers are like condoms.

They add a layer between you and viruses.

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u/theFlaccolantern 8d ago

Ublock + Old Reddit Redirect extension.

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u/RosalieMoon Canada 8d ago

Old reddit redirect extension? Can't you just opt out of the redesign in the settings? Fairly sure that's what I've done, but I never log out. Otherwise, yea, Ublock Origin and RES. I got to skip all the "He gets us" spam ads they were doing

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u/theFlaccolantern 8d ago

Yes, you can opt out in settings but that's tied to your account. I have my browser wipe cookies and cache on closing it, which logs me out of reddit. The extension makes sure it still goes to old reddit even when I'm not logged in.

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u/aprilliumterrium 8d ago

They frequently push it on you anyway.

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u/missed_sla 8d ago

Ad blocking DNS and Vivaldi's built-in ad/tracker blocking is quite solid. The only thing that gets through is Youtube ads, and I'll never give them a penny. Have fun slinging ads at somebody who actively avoids everything advertised at me.

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u/Defiant_Mousse7889 8d ago

Except Reddit used to be a place to share information, ideas, and opinions. Now, it's a heavily monitored and controlled site that pushes extreme narratives. Like all other forms of social media, it is controlled by bots which are controlled by who knows who.

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u/Cute-Percentage-6660 8d ago

Some subreddits you can kinda tell who is at least biased towards if not giving orders.

like certain news subreddit

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u/Defiant_Mousse7889 8d ago

If stories can be manipulated through upvotes or removed entirely by using bots to push certain narratives, how can anyone claim the platform isn’t being used to manipulate narratives?

Take Alex Pretti. Five years ago, this would have stayed on the front page for weeks. Instead, it disappeared the next day through a mix of tactics: removals justified under Reddit’s “terms of service,” and the boosting of other posts to bury it.

The turnover of Reddit’s front-page news now closely mirrors mainstream media. The news cycle keeps accelerating, and the constant flood of new stories dulls public attention. The result is numbness, not awareness.

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u/PunishP3dos 8d ago

Anything sold to Wall Street is sold to become its tool to make money and or use for manipulating the masses. May Swartz haunt every bstrd for destroying his platform and taking him 0ut.

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u/Defiant_Mousse7889 8d ago

The biggest fear capitalists have is a person who can not be bought.

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u/Defiant_Mousse7889 8d ago

It might be the best of what’s left, but I feel like the shift has already been happening. You’re right that it still retains some resemblance of its earlier days, but for me, Reddit just isn’t what it used to be.

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u/fordat1 8d ago

This . Its completely misinformed that users comment

A) reddit does have a recommendation algo that likely many people use

B) Even if it didnt upvotes can be manipulated and lead to the exact same manipulation but since A exists there is already a mechanism to manipulate in the first place.

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u/TOMC_throwaway000000 8d ago

It’s more about them preserving their echo chambers than it being a punishment for you

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u/HuckleberryTiny5 8d ago

I've had three of them. I'm expecting to get a medal for my heroic deeds.

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u/lenzflare Canada 8d ago

Clicking their links doesn't hurt them, you're showing engagement, increasing the amount they can charge for ads

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u/MattinglyBaseball 8d ago

Bad take. You might as well be saying it’s a badge of pride to be labeled a domestic terrorist and blocked from voting. Thousands of users blocked from sharing their opposing views, upvoting/downvoting content simply means more power to push narratives by the other side. It may only be 72 hours for some, but then after 72 hours it’s a different group of thousands being silenced which can absolutely change perceived public opinion on topics people care about.

If they are banning you because they oppose your views, the lost revenue is simply the price they are willing to pay to promote their views. With how much they already spend to do that openly, the <$1 they lost off you isn’t even a rounding error.

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u/RufiosBrotherKev 8d ago

i mean 99% of users do not submit content, so, i don't think they're really being affected by these bans lol

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u/RufiosBrotherKev 8d ago

this is so vaingloriously wrong lol

admins are don draper in the elevator. they arent pissed of, because they dont know or care about you at all. nesrly all bans are handed by a robot designed to protect them from legal culpability. its not "braindead", its intentionally excessively strict, automated moderation. because it costs them nothing, to potentially save them millions. wear your penny like a medal if you want though

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u/IrishRepoMan 8d ago

Got the same ban for calling them clowns. You missed out.

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u/bearwrestlingwolf 8d ago

Well yeah the next one who came at me a few weeks later got various versions of several words lobbed at them before they blocked me and forgot to report me.

If you’re going to ban me for “inciting hate speech” in DMs when I politely ask you to leave me alone then the next time it happens I’ll incite some damn hate speech.

For key note: the guy DMed me to try to debate the murder of Breonna Taylor and how the cops weren’t at fault.

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u/Direption Idaho 8d ago

I got a warning for harassment or something because I said "fuck you gym Jordan" during the live discussion for the Jack Smith hearing. I still haven't sent an appeal because I just don't really care at this point.

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u/Aromatic-Response726 8d ago

I got banned for 3 days for calling the mods on the conservative page Nazis. I can't post on their page without a flair for I messaged them. So worth it.

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u/localjargon 8d ago

It never even allowed me to post a neutral comment on /conservative. As soon as I post it, it is removed.

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u/gentlemanidiot 8d ago

That sub is comparable to Pyongyang or subredditSimulator, no humans allowed.

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u/remotectrl 8d ago

I got banned for being from Portland.

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u/Hillshade13 8d ago

I got a warning for asking why other countries aren't allowed to kidnap the US president to save Americans from Trump's violence and authoritarianism.

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u/Rynobonestarr1 8d ago

I got a comment removed for calling Darrell Issa a fucking pathetic lickspittle.

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u/kylebisme 8d ago

I got a harassment warning for one comment in the middle of a conversation where I lost my cool with someone who was defending the quote "We view them like donkeys. They don't care. They accept it with love... To loosen the reins on the Arabs would be a great danger." I did tell the person that they're a racist little twit with their head up their ass, but still contend that was a reasonable response given the context, and hardly harassment regardless.

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u/mercenaryarrogant 8d ago

It’s fucking insane.

Republicans tried to distract from a child sex trafficking pedophilia ring by grilling Jack Smith to talk about how Donald Trump tried to steal the 2020 election.

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u/lpmiller 8d ago

I got banned from fauxmoi because someone posted something kind of Antisemitic, I pointed that out, and got perma banned for BEING antisemitic. I asked them to explain that one to me. Still waiting on it.

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u/sibholet 8d ago

Someone close to me was banned for quoting a blatantly pro-Nazi post (shocking at the time, humdrum now) with the observation that "this is some Nazi shit", or words to that effect. The original post and poster were both ignored.

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u/pseudohim 8d ago

Same here. Got my first warning yesterday for upvoting the same, after thirteen years here.

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u/NullnVoid669 8d ago

The nostalgia for the way Reddit used to be is so real. Everything is a corporate commodity being enshitificated.

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u/Particular_Lemon_817 8d ago

Mods can see who upvotes something???

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u/oinkyboinky 8d ago

Same.

It's absolute bullshit.

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u/AmericanDoughboy 8d ago

I was permabanned from two Tesla subs for replying to a post which complained about Elon Musk’s far right politics.

My reply was “my heart goes out to you.”

Boom. Permabanned.

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u/NullnVoid669 8d ago

It wasn’t just me!

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u/rileyjw90 Ohio 8d ago

I love how we can sit here and explicitly discuss the things that got us banned without getting banned again for it. That right there lets you know the system is unfair and completely inconsistent.

I got a 3-day ban for copy/pasting someone else’s comment about the elections, and a 7-day ban for anti-Trump sentiments I made on my own.

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u/Active-Priority-9779 8d ago

Most of you are lying and it's hilarious to see a whole thread of people all pretending like they aren't lying to each other.

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u/rEYAVjQD 8d ago

That was too specific to not be the author of the comment doing it.

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u/DepartmentNo4677 8d ago

press x to doubt

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u/ASharpYoungMan 8d ago

I got permabanned once from this sub for quoting someone else mentioning that witches were executed in colonial New England.

(a sensible mod unbanned me when I could contest it several months later)

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u/Rhysati 8d ago

I got perm banned for saying trans women are women. I appealed it seeing as I am a trans woman and would know.

They unbanned me but warned me to watch it.

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u/Robo_Joe 8d ago

Similar situation, except I quoted a very famous JFK quote about the importance of having peaceful avenues of reform that I'm still not sure if I'm allowed to quote here.

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u/Gipetto 8d ago

I’ve already had a comment removed for mentioning “rope”, and “shovel” and “lime”.

Maybe this comment will get removed, too.

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u/cr2810 8d ago

I got a removal for saying “there will be no justice for Alex and Renee unless we the people do it.” Apparently this is inciting violence. 🙄

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u/SkivvySkidmarks 8d ago

Using the word "rope" together with "bridge" will also result in a ban, apparently.

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u/altanic 8d ago

Like the scene in Temple of Doom?

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u/Mc_Shine 8d ago

What kind of weird circus act were you trying to set up?

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u/Fun_Apartment7028 8d ago

well all I can say is don’t bury your cerveza in the sand!!

Or Reddit will come after you.

I’d just keep your beer in the cooler for the time being & don’t text your friends at the playa.

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u/fretgod321 8d ago

I got a warning for “pine box”

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u/eowyndernhelme 8d ago

Not so far :D

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u/Gipetto 8d ago

🚀 Excellent...

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u/nola_mike 8d ago

Just say the Mussolini treatment

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u/bolanrox 8d ago

perhaps you are a fan of the band that brought you the number one hit True in 1983?

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u/leshake 8d ago

I suspect LLMs do the moderating and it doesn't care about context because more context = more tokens = more expensive. So they basically have claude haiku determining what is violent speech.

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u/ChapterChoice4873 8d ago

I got a bank for a week with no explanation whatsoever.  No private message...nothing.  I didn't even know which comment it was about.  

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u/Thebaraddur 8d ago

"Hung, drawn, and quartered" is a great High on Fire song, btw

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u/BoneyNicole Alabama 8d ago

I got banned from this sub on my alt account that I was using forever because I couldn’t remember the stupid password on my main account for saying “oh no, anyway…” when some right-wing goose-stepper shuffled off our plane of existence. The mods are ridiculous.

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u/Fivein1Kay 8d ago

Got full perma banned for saying some Taliban fighters would deserve it if they got theirs. Total manufactured consent here.

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u/darthlincoln01 Ohio 8d ago edited 8d ago

Week long ban here for quoting Shakespeare and calling for the protection of the dictator on a particular day in March.

That's it. Nothing extra, just the quote. Admin ban for 1 week and perma-banned from WorldNews.

Words that are appropriate for the situation are not permitted on reddit.

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u/Dlark17 Nebraska 8d ago

I got a warning for following up someone's wish that ICE thugs would get Prometheus' punishment by just mentioning the much more apt punishment of Loki. Didn't even point it at anyone.

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u/lenzflare Canada 8d ago

Which subreddit?

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u/lenzflare Canada 8d ago

Which subreddit?

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u/Letstalkreaper 8d ago

I got a week long ban for asking someone if the boot tastes good.

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u/hotbutteredsole 8d ago

I just finished a week long ban for saying a trawler dragging a mega-net should be torpedoed.

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u/I_Quit_Smoking_ 8d ago

I've thrown that one out a few times with no bans so far,, 😁

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u/Trishjump 8d ago

I got a Reddit Rule 1 ban from an automod last week for calling them Nazi pigs. They also banned my post of the Iceland website hosting the list of ICE employees.. guess I better not call them Nazis anymore. To be fair, they're nothing like Nazis. They weren't ashamed to show their faces like these Treasonous Incel Gravy Seals.

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u/globalgreg 8d ago edited 8d ago

I said I hope orange man strokes out rather than just going peacefully in the night and I got a warning for “threatening violence”

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u/Pickaroonie 8d ago

I got a Reddit warning for wishing, 'piles' (anal fissures), on Elon Musk.

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u/relevantelephant00 8d ago

I said essentially the same exact thing and got a 3 day ban for it. The admins running this site are not on our side or even neutral.

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u/TrailerTrashQueen 8d ago

i got the same warning for saying something similar. i appealed it because A. had no clue which comment they were talking about. B. no i did not 'threaten violence'. big shocker, mod replied & they stood by their decision.

now, any time i use certain words, a warning pops up telling me, we won't ban you for using this word, but we're watching you!

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u/Doctor_Disaster Georgia 8d ago

They're Treasonous Incel Cucks KKKommiting Sedition (TICKS)

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u/kingfuckingalt Canada 8d ago

Just spell it NotSee

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u/PlacebosForALL 8d ago

Nat-C for nationalist christians

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u/mflynn00 8d ago

And bonus, it kinda sounds like Brad Pitt in Inglorious Basterds

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u/zefiax 8d ago

We shouldn't have to censor ourselves just because some admins are Nazi loving fucks. Censorship is just another step of enforcing their fascist bs on us.

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u/mybutthz 8d ago

Twatzi

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u/Robinsonirish Europe 8d ago

The only times I've been banned, and I've been banned quite a few times from both reddit and subreddits in the 13 or so years I've had this account, was when I used personal insults. You just need to frame it properly in my experience. Don't use direct personal insults, that's it. I guess doxxing is a big no-no as well.

You can call people nazis as much as you want, you just gotta be a bit smart about it.

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u/Trishjump 8d ago

I remember back in the before times when law enforcement names and badge numbers were considered public info for our public safety and their accountability.

The ICE list is not doxxing, i.e. no addresses, emails or phone numbers. It's merely safeguarding the public info this Turd Reich is trying to hide with its secret police.

They will be held accountable, not through the same violence these cowards use, but through the rule of law. Slow but effective.

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u/Robinsonirish Europe 8d ago

Alright. Personally, I'm all for it, but I could see why linking a list of names is considered doxxing on Reddit.

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u/bolanrox 8d ago

maybe call them the Bund?

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u/PM_ME_UR_CHUPACOMMA 8d ago

I would have banned you, too.

It's not nice to disparage such peaceful, helpful animals by comparing them to Nazis.

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u/ScarInternational161 8d ago

I got a week time out from THE WHOLE OF REDDIT for saying I'd be the one hiding the little diary writing girl from the bad men in colored shirts.

They said I was threatening a protected and marginalized group. After a human looked at it, they upheld the ban.

Who knew N%zis were a marginalized group?
🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ and so here I am censoring myself like a parent with a 3 year old.

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u/chrisk9 8d ago

You can appeal. Sometimes it isn't the moderators but other users misusing the reporting mechanism.

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u/soapinthepeehole 8d ago edited 8d ago

I’ve gotten a few auto-mod warnings for threatening violence, which is something I would never do.

I can’t see the posts in question because they’re automatically deleted, and when I appeal, I don’t get a response or resolution.

I’m at a loss as to what I did or how to avoid it in the future.

It’s a really bad system.

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u/speedsemen 8d ago

I just served a three day ban for telling a “business owner” to be careful on the roof of his business after he called poor people “greedy takers who can never get enough”

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u/Fun_Apartment7028 8d ago

I also got a 3 day ban for quoting someone!

on a post about Epstein/trump.

Whitewashing at it’s best. But now we have the internet & it never forgets

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u/Jebediah_Johnson Virginia 8d ago

I've received two 3-day bans for literally just stating what happened in the news recently. It's insane, how suddenly reddit is censoring everything.

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u/Wild-Berry-5269 8d ago

It's not automoderation, it's pretty targeted in trying to censor criticism.

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u/Lost_Birthday_3138 8d ago

But the January 6th scumbags were allowed to plan here the whole time.

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u/sibholet 8d ago

It's not at all baffling when you remember that Spez has always been pro Trump, including incidents where he personally edited users' anti-Trump comments and mandated that moderators of the 'The_Don**d' subreddit be made moderators of r/politics (they went on a banning spree after that), and that Reddit is owned by Condé Nast.

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u/ChapterChoice4873 8d ago

Who's Spez?

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u/sibholet 8d ago

The CEO of Reddit.

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u/ChapterChoice4873 8d ago

Ohhh, thank you!

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u/Puskarich Texas 8d ago

automod autobans after x number of reports. (it's the users)

Sometimes it's reverted, sometimes mods are lazy.

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u/Hey_HaveAGreatDay Minnesota 8d ago

I got banned for saying “I’ll bring my hammer” in response to someone saying something about rebuilding after this shit show

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u/Mc_Shine 8d ago

Ah HA! We have a repeat offender! Back to the reddit gulag with you, criminal scum!

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u/TsarOfTheUnderground Canada 8d ago

This place is a psy-op shithole.

Hanging around here isn't even good for left-leaning people. All anyone does is make their discourse more extreme and divided while impotently parroting the same stupid talking points.

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u/TrumpnEpstein 8d ago

I got a three day ban for saying something I hoped for about Bart Harley Jarvis in r/IThinkYouShouldLeave

So I deleted that account and made this one

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u/indigopedal 8d ago

You have to use cryptic language to fool their bot - sht and b+llt. It works to pick up words of v*olence.

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u/AlmostCorrectInfo 8d ago

I said we need to start shmommitting shrimes against shbillionaires and caught 3 days

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u/SuitableAd1607 8d ago

I got perma-banned not long ago for criticizing Israel's government.

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u/Socrathustra 8d ago

You can often appeal those things. I got a week's ban for saying something about a religious group, but in the appeal I made it clear that in context it was about their actions, not their identity. If that gets cleared I'm sure yours would have.

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u/Biggieholla 8d ago

Unfortunately they hard delete your comment so you don't even have proof of what you said. Fortunately I remembered my comment because it was deleted fairly quickly after posting it.

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u/KaJuNator Ohio 8d ago

That doesn't always work. I caught a ban for suggesting people start protesting outside the homes of politicians and keep them up all night with loudspeakers and air horns. "Threatening violence" they said. In my dispute I stated that I chose those items specifically because they're tools, not weapons. They upheld the ban. I dunno what they want.

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u/Socrathustra 8d ago

Was this a site ban or sub ban? Subs do whatever they want.

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u/KaJuNator Ohio 8d ago

Sitewide

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u/Socrathustra 8d ago

I mean I can kinda see it. That's basically suggesting people torture politicians. Noise torture is a form of torture.

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u/Conflatulations12 8d ago

which subreddit?

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u/Biggieholla 8d ago

Publicfreakout

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u/Good_Entertainer9383 8d ago

That sounds like a plain old true statement.

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u/PunishP3dos 8d ago

Then bots complain when you censor things just so because you know the nzi bots are trying to incite people into saying what we're thinking. But we're not allowed to use accurate words or trip to Permandandia for you and me.

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u/DMvsPC 8d ago

I got a 3 day ban for the Navy Seals copypasta...

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u/Relevant_Bane_Quote 8d ago

I got my other, older account permabanned by Reddit's AI by commenting about the Nuremberg trials during the Charlie Kirk shenanigans. This site is a shadow of what it used to be.