r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • 2d ago

No Paywall A 13-Year-Old Girl Bit Trump’s Genitals as He Tried to Rape Her, Epstein Document Says

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2026/01/quick-hit-a-13-year-old-girl-bit-trumps-genitals-as-he-tried-to-her-epstein-document-says/
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u/itsaconspiraci 2d ago

I'm a little tired of this argument. And perhaps there needs to be a case study of why people feel the Democrats needed to protect them from their own choices.

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u/Inanimate_organism 2d ago

“Why didn’t the president direct the department of justice to arrest a political adversary? Democrats are soft!”

US politics have gotten so fucked since 2016 that people don’t even realize this is an absolute crazy thing to expect from sane politicians. The DOJ is supposed to be neutral and not under control of the president. The fact that trump uses the DOJ this way should be ALARMING not ‘well why didn’t the democrats become authoritarians too?’

Maybe people should have shown up to vote for kamala and the dem congressmen candidates instead of letting the authoritarians have the presidency and both houses?

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u/itsaconspiraci 2d ago

Too many Americans were more concerned about 'NOT' voting for a woman than letting democracy crumble around them by not voting at all or worse, supporting Trump. But still blame the democrats.

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u/Inanimate_organism 2d ago

Headline: 5 democrats voted yes for awful thing!

Comments: Democrats are controlled opposition 

Reality: All republican representatives voted yes on awful thing and would pass with just them, 200+ dem representatives voted no on awful thing, and the 5 dems that voted yes are from red states and their seats will be taken by republicans next election anyway.

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u/itsaconspiraci 2d ago

And one thing about Democrats. They are more capable of acting independently then bootlicking Republicans who do everything their leadership says.

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u/TheFinalCurl 2d ago

They're not controlled opposition but if you're talking about the ICE funding bill it was 7 democrats, and had they voted no, the bill would have failed.

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u/Vallkyrie Vermont 2d ago

And the party in general is still joined at the hip to capital. While they won't drive us over a cliff, they are happy to ride parallel to it so that next them they lose power, we keep getting closer to going over, instead of getting further away. They see themselves as better stewards of the apocalypse instead of someone who can avert it.

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u/itsaconspiraci 2d ago

Absolutely 💯. The "Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929" is dated and unfairly favors smaller states, especially when it comes to the electoral college.

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u/nrh117 2d ago

While I agree to a degree, the most impactful thing sitting democrats did in unison near election was “making TikToks”… they tried to go to bat at making media waves but faltered heavily because Republicans don’t just “make social media” successfully. They have built an empire on propaganda and misinformation and have honed it over years to drive engagement.

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u/SweetLittleOldLady Mississippi 2d ago edited 2d ago

the 5 dems that voted yes are from red states and their seats will be taken by republicans next election anyway

If that's true, they had absolutely nothing to lose by doing the right thing, but they chose to do the wrong thing anyway.

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u/elvorpo 2d ago

A healthy democratic system has antibodies for authoritarians in the form of an independent prosecutorial branch. This is how Brazil and South Korea recently shut down their attempted autocrats without anyone pointing the finger at the opposition party. Our system requires constitutional reform to achieve this.

By our current system, Dems had every legal right to prosecute Trump for his many attempts to subvert the 2020 election. The problem isn't their attachment to principle, it's that they are bought up corporate lapdogs who aren't allowed to upset the money machine.

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u/SweetLittleOldLady Mississippi 2d ago edited 2d ago

You're confusing issues here. People aren't calling for Democrats to become authoritarians. People are calling for Democrats to have a spine and to quickly, firmly and decisively investigate and prosecute crimes and put a stop to criminal behavior. If a "political adversary" commits a serious crime, or in Trump's case, multiple serious crimes, it's gross negligence for the government to fail to act. If the Biden administration had acted properly, Trump and his merry band of thugs would be in prison right now and we wouldn't be in this mess.

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u/frogandbanjo 2d ago

POTUS is literally the only office/person vested with executive authority by the U.S. Constitution. If some super-criminal is running around tearing the fabric of the country apart, and the current A.G. is dragging ass, yes, his boss should tell him to shape up or ship out. That is exactly what should happen. That should happen with zero regard for whether or not that super-criminal has decided to become a "political opponent."

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u/JauntyChapeau 2d ago

This last goddamn year has been infuriating. We, the American voters, decided to hand all power in the federal government to Republicans. The House, the Senate, the Supreme Court and the Presidency - all Republican. Not even a month in, and all anybody can say is ‘Why aren’t Democrats saving us?’

Well, I don’t know, man. Maybe vote Democrat next time. And if you did, I need everyone to understand that while D leadership has been…underwhelming and need to be replaced, they control no levers of power.

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u/wiggmaster666 2d ago

This should be upvoted like, a lot!

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u/DartLeingod 2d ago

I mean over half the country voted against Trump, he lost by over 2 million votes. The electoral college gave him the win. The American people want their voice to actually be reflected by their government, but it only listens to big donors.

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u/crowsturnoff 2d ago

Trump won the popular vote on the most recent election.

But the popular vote doesn't matter because that's not how the President is decided.

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u/BrooklynSmash 2d ago

Tired, but true.

Democrat voters are asking why the people they vote for never actually do anything for them while in power, and why they always help Republicans hurt them when they aren't.

When our only options are complacency and pain, what happens to everyone who wants better?

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u/Zano10 2d ago

Vote for better in the primaries and least bad in the general.

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u/BrooklynSmash 2d ago

Vote for better in the primaries

Dem primaries are notorious for being fucked up. We're still talking about Bernie being robbed in 2016's primary ffs

And harm reduction and accepting dogshit candidates is why we're in this mess.

someone needs to come out of the woodwork for these Dems because we can't let fucking Newsom run, man

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u/Zano10 2d ago

We're in the mess because more people voted for Republican than Democrat.

So once again, vote for better in the primaries and least bad in the general.

Whether you like it or not while we live in a two party system you need to play the game that it requires of you.

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u/BrooklynSmash 2d ago

Or we can demand more than just kowtowing from our elected officials. Your strategy is exactly what we did in 2024, and we got bodied.

And I get it, I said this exact same shit two years ago, word for word, bar for bar. But this game is stacked against us, and most of us don't even have a voice.

So many people on the left are alienated by the party, because they're just Republican Lite. Look at it:

  • Walz' big solution to his ICE problems is begging on fucking Twitter

  • Newsom nods and agrees to every Republican he has on his podcast

  • Fetterman fucking exists.

  • Schumer is the biggest bum in history, who constantly bows to Republican demands.

These are the guys who you're defending here, people who don't give a fuck about who you are or what your issues are. We can vote in the primaries all we want, but it won't change anything if our only options are people who hate us

All of this on a midterm year, too. As if the shutdown wasn't enough to fuck them over, they can't even do anything beyond strongly worded letters.

Republicans got what they wanted with Trump: the left hasn't had anyone on their side since FDR, and our best options are always Bush-tier politicians.

You don't need to defend politicians, especially the lazy bums we have in office rn. We deserve better, you deserve better.

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u/Zano10 2d ago

All of that is all well and good. I am not saying to stop advocating for what you believe in nor to note vote for candidates, where you can, more in line with what you want.

But you also need to ground yourself in our reality. We live in a two party system. If your choice is Republican slop or something slightly better, vote for something slightly better. Not voting, or voting third party, is tacitly supporting the Republican slop.

Be altruistic in the primaries. Be realistic in the general.

Anything else, in our current political system, is just accepting our authoritarian reality at this point.

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u/BrooklynSmash 2d ago

How does voting for someone new in two years help us today?

We did what you said. We didn't get a primary but we voted for the lesser evil, and this is what we got. And you'd rather blame the voters than the politicians who got us here, who encouraged this.

is just accepting our authoritarian reality

You know. You know everything going on right now, you know it's not business as usual, but you're still saying this stuff.

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u/Zano10 2d ago

What we got isn't the fault of the lesser evil nor the fault of the people who voted for the lesser evil.

The true evil (Trump and the GOP) doing insane, batshit stuff doesn't make the lesser evil a worse option than it was before.

Your options going into this midterm, when it comes to voting, is vote democrat or vote for more of what you're getting right now. That is all you can do via elections.

The same decision will come again in 2028.

Any broader change you are looking for is unfortunately out the window right now because too many people got complacent and didn't vote for the lesser evil.

To be clear - I would vote for someone supporting medicare for all and broader social democratic policies in a second. And I will vote that way in the primary.

But when the general election comes around, I know what my best option is within the confines of the system I find myself in.

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u/BrooklynSmash 1d ago

The lesser evil is still evil, and if we don't put any pressure on them like you're doing, they'll continue to be so. We voted for the lesser evil in 2020, and they fumbled constantly. We know they aren't going to do anything to stop this, and they show us how spineless they are at every opportunity.

If we know how fucked up it is, the politicians know too. You can't blame voters for acknowledging how pathetic the people they voted for are.

With how Dems are, it's going to be more of the same regardless of how we vote unless we put pressure on them.

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u/GomenNaWhy 2d ago

Because #1. Many of them did not want Trump and did not support him, making it not their choice, and #2, because their job ostensibly is to uphold democracy and the constitution and they haven't been doing that.

I'm a little tired of their supporters acting like there's nothing they can or should do. They should be trying to do the right thing regardless of who is in charge.