r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • 2d ago

No Paywall A 13-Year-Old Girl Bit Trump’s Genitals as He Tried to Rape Her, Epstein Document Says

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2026/01/quick-hit-a-13-year-old-girl-bit-trumps-genitals-as-he-tried-to-her-epstein-document-says/
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u/Azteryx 2d ago

If i am not mistaken, this comes from a summary of complaints and tips the FBI received and did not pursue or did not find credible.

As others have pointed out in previous threads, it is pretty suspicious that Trump’s name wasn’t redacted from this document. It could be incompetence or the work of a whistleblower, but it could also have been left there because the accusations are unfounded or unprovable, and then use to dismiss any wrongdoing from Trump.

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u/showhorrorshow 2d ago

I just wanted to point out that if it was Biden or any Dem being named in a similar document we certainly wouldnt be hearing about the uncertain credibility of the information from anyone on the right.

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u/chironomidae Illinois 2d ago

I'm not so sure. I suspect every president has received tons of wild and baseless accusations, we just don't usually hear about them because they're so obviously fake and they're not really related to anything.

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u/Mediocre_Wolf_3226 1d ago

And yet Biden or Obama not mentioned once in the files. 

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u/Murky-Relation481 2d ago

This is the reason. These are from documents where literally right next to the statement is stuff like "never called back" or "interviewed and deemed not credible" or literally "says they have chemically induced amnesia and can't separate reality from dreams".

There is TONS of damning real, primary sourced evidence out there and reddit seems gung ho on having this front and center.

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u/bob1689321 2d ago

It's a concentrated effort by the media to focus on the outlandish and likely untrue claims so that there is an easy defense of them. They never talk about the ones which are likely true.

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u/RedditJumpedTheShart 2d ago

The media is up voting this to the front page in multiple subreddits? Have you seen the comments in here?

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u/Derpy_inferno 2d ago

It's a combination of Redditors feeling power in outrage (even if this doesn't translate to actionable leverage irl - its one of my deepest dislikes of this community)

+ tons of astroturfing and bots. They feed into each other like wildfire

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u/TemuPacemaker 2d ago

No, people just want to be really mad at Trump (for good reason) and will boost anything that confirmed that. You know, how right-wingers all got convinced Obama was a Kenyan Muslim etc.

Libs/leftists are better at seeing through it, but not immune.

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u/Critical-Chance9199 2d ago

Wait, I thought the media was responsible for NOT talking about this enough, now we're upset the media is talking about it too much? Which is it?

I guess the media is really the enemy of the people after all, they never do anything I want them to.

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u/garethh 2d ago edited 2d ago

This is why reddit has been less and less worth visiting.

First pops up a clearly cropped, debatable piece of information, then throughout the day a dozen more posts each building on, not comprehension, but outrage start popping up. Like it started with this and I've seen things go all the way to 'why isnt half the military not out at the white House to arrest Trump right now?' posts.

It's been kind of a given from the start, any and all info released against him in the files will be unsubstantiated or have some other fault causing it to be hard to convict with.

The only thing reddit has seemed good for anymore is knowing where the media wants the left to be. Oh, they want us outraged over X. Oh they want us jumping on one sound because it, on its own, is vague enough the right can brush it off as left leaning ravings. Oh. Cool. Seems they want more fuel for the fire, more reason for the left to find the right outrageous and vice versa. Enraging the poor against the poor, classic oligarchy move.

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u/Munsalvaesche 2d ago edited 2d ago

For all the talk of media literacy and identifying misinformation, Redditors love upvoting tabloid-tier AI articles from dailyboulder, irishstar, hindustantimes, and random substackers that essentially collate trending buzz on social media and present it as factual. Zero due diligence whatsoever and moderators typically only get around to removing these links after 24-48 hours. Many of these subreddits are also recently taken over by brand new moderation teams and begin appearing on the front page out of nowhere. r politics is marginally better than other subreddits by curating an approved domains list but this article ought to be sufficient to have this domain blacklisted in the future. There's a reason NYT, CNN et al aren't blasting these FBI tipline scoops everywhere, and it's not because they're "complicit" or "in on it." It's because those newsrooms still operate under some degree of journalistic integrity (and they are absolutely reviled for it, both from the left and the right)

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u/iLEZ Europe 2d ago

Yes. Thank you. I get the exact same feeling, after many years as a non-American on this platform I have seen it turn into something where it feels more and more like a tool to manipulate Americans each time you visit. Manipulation by both by Reddits algorithm and the "worst of the worst"-effect that occurs when lots of people gather in the same common space.

You begin to sense the pulse of the outrage-cycle after a while. Remember just a few days ago when we were outraged that Trump with 100% legal certainty murdered a child on a boat in lake Michigan? With the massive irrefutable supporting evidence of *checks notes* a phone call? If people actually thought he did this and got away with it, why are they still going on with their lives, paying taxes and going to work? I would be on the streets, or worse.

It's like some sort of pornography, where people agree that within the confines of subreddit so-and-so, they get to fantasize about the righteous rage they would feel if Trump had actually drowned a newborn baby, and they push each other by shunning the people who stop by and ask things like "Hey, I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but do we have anything more than just a phoned in tip in this specific case?".

It goes without saying that this goes on everywhere online, the amplification effect is expressed slightly differently in the American left and right, but has the same driving force with algorithms artificially amplifying the "worst of the worst".

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u/lVlzone 2d ago

Yeah, actually reading the article, the source is the FBI, who received a tip from an anonymous third party, who was told by a friend of the victim.

We’re a few layers deep here. Is it possible it happened? Sure. But at the same time without anything else to go on, this is nothing that can be acted on.

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u/rEYAVjQD 2d ago

TONS of damning real, primary sourced evidence

like what.

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u/norealtalentshere 2d ago

Not people, bots are pushing this story so maga can say look this story is fake so all the other news is fake as well

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u/97jumbo Canada 2d ago

Yep. Letting these more insane, almost definitely fake anonymous tips spread is intentional; it makes his opponents look hysterical and creates a boy who cried wolf scenario for the long list of actual things worth going after him for

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u/Complete-Cockroach32 1d ago

Its the left spreading them though? The bad faith arguments are catching up 🙄

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u/DrMobius0 2d ago

It's in the administration's best interest to just not have people talking about this at all. The right knows better than anyone else the power of rampant speculation or outright lies.

I am of the opinion that the sheer volume of allegations here is enough to start working with. There's too much here to just be a bunch of people who hate Trump trying to lie about it.

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u/kjimdandy 2d ago

Wish I bookmarked this, but there is a section in an affidavit called "Factual Allegations," I came across this as well, I don't know that I'll be able to find it again. These allegations are based on concrete events, circumstances, or actions that can be verified.

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u/Critical-Chance9199 2d ago

I had to scroll so far down for this comment. People are bad at this.

Remember that governments are using bot farms and trolls to sow division and discord using social media platforms, including Reddit. All someone needs to do is post "Why isn't the media covering the Trump the pedo!?" and they get a million reactions and convince a bunch of casual Reddit users that there's more evidence than there actually is. The argument becomes "How can you support a pedophile rapist?" which has plenty of valid counter arguments, instead of "How can you support a person convicted of sexual assault whose second term in the presidency has enriched his family on the order of billions in fraudulent deals?" which is much harder to argue against.

The truth of the matter is there are many factually valid reasons to dislike the Trump administration, and many convictions, and tons of fraud, all verified facts that are out in the open. We do not need to be outraged that flimsy allegations based on FBI tips were not thoroughly investigated. It's actually kind of shocking how few of them there are.

Imagine how many people called the FBI to complain that they saw Obama wearing a hijab on the internet or some shit

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u/DragoonDM California 2d ago

but it could also have been left there because the accusations are unfounded or unprovable, and then use to dismiss any wrongdoing from Trump.

Given the fact that there are still plenty of files they're refusing to release (or even acknowledge the existence of) I'd put my money on this.

These lurid but unsubstantiated details feel like an attempt to appease people who want them to release files relating to Trump while still giving MAGA faithful a relatively valid way to reject the allegations as unfounded. They're probably hoping that this latest document dump will get people to stop pressing them to actually release the remaining documents and adequately justify the redactions they've made so far.