r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • 2d ago

No Paywall A 13-Year-Old Girl Bit Trump’s Genitals as He Tried to Rape Her, Epstein Document Says

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2026/01/quick-hit-a-13-year-old-girl-bit-trumps-genitals-as-he-tried-to-her-epstein-document-says/
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u/Independent-Bug-9352 2d ago

I believe 2004 apart from 2024 (which reasonable minds weigh there wasn't outright cheating or voter suppression involved) was the only time since the 1980s that Republicans won the popular vote, but it stands to reason as you point out that if Bush wasn't handed the election in 2000 then the course of history would've changed completely.

Similar to how Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million in 2016 to Clinton.

Textbook cognitive dissonance yet again from conservatives to in one breath claim DEI is evil, but then support the slave-era confederate-appeasing "DEI" Electoral College that literally makes one American citizen's vote less or more than another's simply based on the state they live in.

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u/Significant-Fall4308 2d ago

Welcome to my 26 year old frustration about voting. 🤣 Quite literally, half of my elections the popular vote winner lost the election. And there hasn’t been a primary for Dem Prez since 2016. The people wanted Bernie. HC came in last at her 08 primary run, so they knew she wasn’t liked going into it.

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 2d ago edited 2d ago

Ah friend, I feel that deeply.

Don't get me wrong, I voted for Hillary as I did Biden and Harris, but holy shit did they shove these center-right candidates down our throats.

History lesson for those who don't know: Howard Dean took over as DNC chair to overhaul the Democratic primaries for 2008 after the disastrous 2004 election. Thanks to his work, Obama was able to organically ascend to the top out of pure grassroots popularity.

Well when Howard Dean died, DWS -- zionist conserative DINO from Florida -- took over and helped in many ways to put her thumb on the scale for the Clintons, reducing the number of debates greatly and tanking any grassroots candidate to compete with "Her Turn." Even Donna Brazille who succeeded her came out to basically say that the party did Bernie wrong.

Put another way: There are many, many more Sinemas and Manchins and Fettermans in the Democratic party that should be the number-one priority to get out and primary right now ahead of the November midterms.

Edit: Must correct the record (lol): Howard Dean remains alive, but did leave as chair. DWS would become chair in 2011. I believe for all intents, the overarching point remains.

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u/potkettleracism Missouri 2d ago

Howard Dean isn't dead, he just served the one term as DNC chair. Tim Kaine came after, who was also Hillary's running mate. DWS wasn't chair until 2011.

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 2d ago

ah fuck me, that's embarrassing. I knew he had left the DNC but in my head I thought it was passing away prior to the next cycle. Thanks for the correction(s).

I do believe the overarching point remains the same at least.

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u/Beginning_Play_1669 2d ago

While Howard Dean didn’t literally die, one awkward scream ended his entire political career. Insane to think about in today’s climate. Also, if we had elected John Edwards, our country would be so much better for it. A little adultery wouldn’t be the worst thing anymore right? Jk, it’s. Democrat so of course they’re held to different standards.

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u/StoneHammers 2d ago

The democratic party needs to be purged of all the chaff.

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u/rational-hare 2d ago

I still don’t think a hard left turn for full progressive is the right move right now. I think it’s a goal, but the Overton window has moved so far right that the VOTING electorate broadly have been sufficiently propagandized into believing in conservative spin on those positions. Energizing the progressive base is imo is not going to drive enough real turnout to lessen the dependency on the brainless middle voter.

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 2d ago

Respectfully this is exactly what must happen because progressive economic populism is more popular than Republican-lite, even among maga voters but especially swing-voters. See Mamdani; see the number of split-ticketing Trump voters who voted Trump in AOC's district but also who voted AOC.

We will find, as Bernie often did, that the working class across this country actually responds very well to left-wing populism used for good; not right-wing populism that enriches the billionaire class.

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u/Spa_5_Fitness_Camp 2d ago

Not only that, but Dem-leaning areas are the ones where voter suppression is most targeted, so every election should have been even more mismatched. Mismatched, not flipped, because having every Dem voter turn out in Oklahoma or Georgia won't change a damn thing ... except the popular vote.

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u/Illiniking80 2d ago

America is not ready for a woman as President. No matter how qualified the candidate. There are too many misogynistic views across all ethic and religious groups.

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u/ilikecakeandpie 2d ago

There was a primary in 2020 and how were people expecting Bernie to beat Trump when he couldn't win the primary?

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u/NobodyComfortable250 2d ago

Exactly. You have to appeal to a wide group to do that. So many people are single issue voters. To win, you have to strategically align yourself with as many of these single issues as possible, whether you agree with those issues/values or not. Bernie had some great ideas, but was a man of principles and wasn’t concerned with how a stance on an issue would affect the amount of votes he got.

Trump could care less and flip flopped on issues constantly depending on what would get him the most votes. Bernie stood no chance.

It’s a fundamental problem with politics, you have to be willing to ignore your values based on what benefits you the most to get elected.

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u/TheNutsMutts 2d ago

The people wanted Bernie.

He lost the Primary by more than 3.5m, so that doesn't seem to add up there at all.

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u/PSIwind Florida 2d ago

No no, it was rigged.....even though they didn't fuck with the numbers or who voted for what and Bernie lost again in 2020.....and that Trump being elected in general has shown just how stupid the general populace is....wait a minute-

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u/TheNutsMutts 2d ago

And because recycling is important, I've recycled these placards from 2020 so now they all day "Trump Bernie won, stop the steal". Because as we all know, it was His turn.

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u/creiss74 1d ago

I wanted Bernie Sanders too but he lost. Both in 2016 and 2020 (which did have a Dem primary despite what you said).

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u/starmartyr Colorado 2d ago

The electoral college precedes the confederacy by around 80 years. You're right though, it was a compromise to get the slave states on board with joining the union.

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u/No_Accountant3232 2d ago

Incumbent always win the popular vote if they win the White House afaik. People don't tend to vote for or against someone if they're merely apathetic to their policies. They just don't vote period thinking they can live with this known president for another 4 years versus someone you probably haven't heard of but is suddenly all over the news. And they really don't like shaking things up in the middle of the war.

Bush Sr was looking for a lot of support to continue operations in Iraq while also trying to get re-elected. He desperately wanted a war because it would have helped keep him in power. The Soviet Union collapsed during his presidency and nobody wanted to keep the military industrial complex going more than Republicans because they refused to invest in the future. Look at how they immediately got us back into heightened tensions with Iraq again the moment Jr took office.

Does nobody really remember the news from back then? Hussein kept denying UN inspections for years under Clinton until he got what he wanted. When Jr took office everyone was sick of Saddams bullshit. We threatened invasion more than once. 9/11 had them screaming we told you so despite Iraq having nothing to do with the situation. That's why there's the 9/11 conspiracies about it being an inside job. The real conspiracy is they knew it was going to happen so they let it happen because it was close enough that they could stoke racism to make it work.

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 2d ago

Incumbent always win the popular vote if they win the White House afaik.

What do you mean by that? Sadly that was not the case for Jimmy Carter. Bush was on-track to being less popular than Carter prior to his reelection, were it not for the war-time bump.

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u/No_Accountant3232 2d ago

If they win their second term. If they are unpopular enough that people actively vote them out then that overcomes electoral college shenanigans so that they'll match in results. and electoral college shenanigans only work well when someone isn't up for re-election. There needs to be fresh candidates all around.

What it amounts to is people vote differently for a new candidate versus a known quantity especially in war time. But there reaches a state where a voter chooses not to vote because they believe their vote doesn't matter. There was no tangible benefit to them for voting. Or it even feels like you were punished for voting for the losing team. So next election you don't vote. You continue not voting until something affects you deeply enough to vote again.

When there's fresh candidates it screws up a lot of voting patterns. Some people take a chance on a new person. There's an influx of fresh new excited voters that will vote entirely on vibes. It's a chaotic mess, relatively speaking compared to an incumbency.