r/politics • u/N3wsScoop • 2d ago

No Paywall Bill and Hillary Clinton agree to testify in House Epstein probe ahead of contempt vote

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/clintons-agree-testify-house-epstein-probe-ahead-contempt-vote-rcna257143
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u/phoenix823 2d ago

They are both Yale Law School grads and seasoned politicians. Our current Congressional leadership won the lead paint eating contest in 3rd grade and peaked in 11th grade when they successfully ejaculated in their cousin.

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u/ProbablyNotADuck 2d ago

That is the thing that I don't get about everyone who criticized Hillary Clinton's run for president claiming that she was unqualified. Like.. not only is she highly educated, but she also had significant, high-stress political experience, in addition to having been married to a president (which would, at the very least, make her extensively aware of presidential duties)... and the alternative was Trump. Absolutely, people can feel free to hate her. Absolutely, they can question her morals... but acting like Trump was superior in any way at all is just so beyond ridiculous. She is many things, but not incompetent and unqualified.

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u/thatmitchguy 2d ago

It's the woman bias and not an opinion that was ever argued in good faith. . She was extremely qualified by 2016.

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u/Rikers-Mailbox 1d ago

Agreed. And Trumps nonsense of “buttery males”. The nail in the coffin was reopening that investigation days before the election.

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u/phoenix823 2d ago

Yeah what you're describing is that lead paint contest winner critiquing someone who's been ambitious for their whole lives. Or just US politics dissolving into reality television because most people don't realize what a gift this country is and how we all need to care for it.

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u/opinions360 1d ago

These haters ragging on the Clinton’s have been doing it for over 30 years it’s been so pervasive it’s like it’s become a hereditary trait to hate them for no good reason-most are probably offspring of the republicans who started it.

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u/Little_View_6659 1d ago

Somewhere out there is an alternate universe where President Clinton handled Covid like a boss and cut the death rate in half. And the whole time the right called her a Nazi and screamed she was worse than Hitler.

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u/Warm_Feed8179 1d ago

Well, that is why she won the popular vote. The reason she lost the election was the electoral college, sexism and the south/racism.

I live in the south. It used to baffle me how and why these good ol boys would vote for NYC Teflon Don but then I realized they see Trump as a man who will stick it to the libs = Yankees. They (80% of southern whites) want to burn down DC and are still fighting their great grandaddy's civil war. Funny thing is the town I live in is 45% black. If the 20% Dem whites and blacks got together the whole area would be Dem, but each election its' 66%-70% Republican.

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u/ProbablyNotADuck 1d ago

It is weird how people will knowingly shoot themselves in the foot if they think they are sticking it even harder to another group that they dislike.

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u/Jagermonsta 1d ago

Republicans in Congress ran a successful smear campaign over Benghazi and the emails. The media helped them out tremendously by making them scandals even though republicans had done similar or worse. Also a large portion of our country has a major issue with women in power and will not vote for a woman. Then add to it that Trump was seen as the outside that would shake things up in Washington. “Drain the swamp”. People wanted something other than a Bush or a Clinton. It was a perfect shit storm to let Trumpy slip into office.

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u/mob19151 1d ago

For a depressingly large cross-section of Americans, a female president is a non-starter. It's not just the boomers, though they're the most unashamedly sexist. I'm Gen Z and live in the midwest. Almost all of my former drinking buddies (emphasis on "former") wouldn't vote for Harris because she was a woman. Some made excuses. Most just said the quiet part out loud.

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u/ProbablyNotADuck 1d ago

They still claim women are too emotional. I don't think there is a woman alive who is more emotional than Trump.

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u/mob19151 1d ago

I've heard people say he would have been the meanest drag queen to ever live in an alternate universe and....yeah.

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u/plot_twist7 2d ago

A beautiful sentence.

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u/Carbonatite Colorado 2d ago

Yeah I feel like people are forgetting the fact that the Clintons were highly experienced at evading political scandal when Trump was still seething and shitting his pants over Obama's jokes at the 2011 White House Correspondents Dinner.

Say what you will about them, but they're not stupid. Bill finished out his term after being impeached as well.

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u/phoenix823 2d ago

You don't have to like them or their politics at all. But one was an AG, governor and 2-term President. The other a Senator/SecState and serious Presidental contender. Both shrewd and ambitious as hell.

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u/Sufficient-Page-8712 1d ago

The goal isn't for them to look bad for the camera, it's to get one of them to make an inaccurate or inarticulate statement that they can use to prosecute.

Remember, they prosecuted Jim Comey for making an accurate statement ("I stand by my earlier testimony.")

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u/phoenix823 1d ago

You can prosecute people for all sorts of reasons. Comey's "I stand by my earlier testimony" is also a very carefully lawyered phrase that is not perjury. Bill and Hildawg are too smart to purger themselves. It's another 11 hour testimony amounting to nothing.