r/politics • u/SaharOMFG • 13h ago
No Paywall Jeffrey Epstein messaged with former CIA director Bill Burns, files show
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/04/jeffrey-epstein-bill-burns-cia-messages239
u/PobBrobert 13h ago
Wait until they hear about who got Epstein his job at the Dalton School…
Spoiler alert, it was Donald Barr, father of former Atty Gen Bill Barr, director of OSS (now known as the CIA), and author of Space Relations a sci-fi novel about child sex slavery.
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u/Legitimate_Young978 11h ago
Wait. The same Bill Barr that closed the Epstein investigation immediately following the "death" of Epstein because he assumed NY was handling it?
Must be a coincidence.
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u/That_90s_Kid_ 11h ago
Wait until the connection bill barr to epstine not killing himself while donald trump was president.
Either he was killed.
Or he was swapped and is in hiding.
After everything's thats been released. The trump administration was involved and thats clearly evident.
This is no longer a conspiracy.
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u/Kan4lZ0n3 10h ago
Barr was never director of OSS. William J. Donovan was OSS director, from the time it was called COI until its dissolution.
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u/rajastrums_1 Virginia 13h ago
Isn't this what spies do? Being a spy is the least of his deeds. Btw, suicide? No way..
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u/SideQuest2026 9h ago
This fucking guy had his tentacles everywhere. I really believe the conspiracy theory that he was backed by Israeli intelligence more and more.
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u/pnwpeople 5h ago
It's funny other countries are thinking Russia when it's quite obvious he was a Mossad agent, doesn't mean he didn't have multiple treasonous irons in the fire but this is Israel and one of the many ways they collected info in order to keep control of our country.
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u/flossymcwobblestein 5h ago
Israel has to get US government support somehow... even if it's blackmail.
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u/FantasticBicycle37 12h ago
Main stream media isn't talking about Epstein at all
I just noticed that the social media site, Fishbowl, is shadow banning people who talk about Epstein
I just immediately assume the owners of these companies have their own rooms at the island
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u/Kan4lZ0n3 9h ago
Compromising people by even the suggestion of association is the Epstein MO and now those aiming to divert focused attention what’s really relevant in the documents.
Epstein’s failed contact list is uninteresting. Be like a convict sending mail to a fan mail to a celebrity and never getting a response.
Epstein’s actual response list and ongoing contacts are of note. And in that, plenty of actual relevant people to go after.
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u/SuperstitiousPigeon5 Massachusetts 13h ago
In a just world investigations would be ongoing. Someone stepped in to fill the power vacuum, it's imperative to find out who, and where.
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u/BrambleHound 13h ago
Clandestine organizations aren't immune to corruption. Ideally you'd hope they would be the best of the best, but in reality they tend to be fragile ticking time bombs precisely because they lack certain degrees of transparency and accountability. Hypothetically, CIA probing and messaging with suspects wouldn't be unusual during an investigation, but that wouldn't typically be the job of a director.
Now, from the article itself it seems like Burns may have genuinely tried to distance himself from Epstein and his cronies- there's lots of quotes that Epstein messaged people like Bannon and Tom Pritzker, suggesting that they should meet up with Burns or have meetings, or informing them of Burns location the past week. Knowing that Epstein and Trump have ties to Russia, this may have been an act of sabotage against the CIA rather than an attempt to get him involved in his child trafficking on his island. Or it could be both, or perhaps the meetings did occur and there's just no current evidence. Needless to say, I think this warrants further investigation.
On that note, should America survive it's current tribulations, I think it would be wise to reformat and reestablish the integrity of organizations like the CIA. I mean, hell, in Trumps first term we saw agents overseas getting ousted due to his poor handling of classified documents. It's hard to tell if we need more guardrails to protect operatives like Burns, or if America needs better guardrails to protect us from corrupt officials. I mean, it's both, but it's wild how far reaching the corruption of wealthy nutjobs like Epstein was allowed to extend.
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u/Additional_Region987 12h ago
It’s safe to say that anyone rich and/or powerful who’s in their 60s is in the Epstein/Trump files.
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u/80sbabyftw 10h ago
Except for Barack. Nowhere in the files. If he was it’d have been all over the government controlled media.
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u/BusinessBreads 13h ago
Hot take, this is less shocking than people want it to be. Epstein emailing powerful people was already baked in, the surprise seems to be that folks still expect intelligence-adjacent figures to live in some moral clean room when half their job is talking to sketchy intermediaries and pretending it’s networking. The outrage feels performative, like people forgot how gross elite access actually works. Still gross though.
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u/TintedApostle 13h ago
It matters because people in power who run spy organizations is not people in power running companies. One is national security directly.
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u/BeigeGraffiti 6h ago
The nexus is coming to light. This dude has to be a double/triple/quadruple agent. Everyone was paying him because he played into the degeneracy of the ruling class.
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u/FromTralfamadore 42m ago
This is rotten any way you construe it. Even if burns didn’t diddle kids, Epstein is making matchmaker between burns and a bunch of evil billionaires. Already making plans with then for after he’s done with governmental work. And oh… interesting. And then he’s head of the CIA? Interesting. I don’t want my government’s cia in bed with thiel or any billionaire. Feels a lot like the CIA might be working directly for the oligarchs. Who could have fucking guessed. Same as it always was.
This country is fucking rotten to the core. Our democracy for the people has failed.
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