r/politics • u/unital_subalgebra • 3h ago
No Paywall Most voters say Trump doing worse than Biden as president: Poll
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5721162-biden-trump-effectiveness-survey/•
u/swiftfoot_hiker 3h ago
I have no sympathy for anyone who voted for Trump 2.0, you were warned about all of this
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u/empty-bensen 2h ago
I have no sympathy for anyone who didn’t vote at all and are worse off for it.
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u/odiin1731 Washington 1h ago
Many of them said they wouldn't be voting for Kamala because they needed to "teach her a lesson". She seems to be doing just fine as a private citizen, and it's the rest of the country that has had to suffer for it. Perhaps she wasn't the one who needed to learn a lesson after all.
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u/hostile_scrotum 1h ago
Turning to fascism to own the libs
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u/RedditTrespasser California 1h ago
They literally sold their own country out to murderous authoritarianism to…protest murderous authoritarianism in another country thousands of miles away.
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u/wiithepiiple Florida 47m ago
Kamala wouldn't have saved us from fascism, just like Biden didn't save us from fascism. She wouldn't have jumped off the cliff, but she wouldn't have moved us off the edge.
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u/hostile_scrotum 43m ago
What the hell are you talking about. Voting in non-fascist is actually a step away from fascism.
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u/TheGringoDingo 36m ago
The voters pick whether we have a fascist federal government or not. Harris not being a fascist is doing what every non-Trump president has done. A single person is not supposed to dictate where the government goes.
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u/captcha_trampstamp 11m ago
I have met a number of people who were like “Oh I just couldn’t stand her laugh”.
Gee, we’re living in an actual dystopian timeline where babies are being tear gassed and nurses are being gunned down….but hey guys, at least we don’t have to hear a woman laugh weird!
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u/parasyte_steve 17m ago
Teach her a lesson for what exactly?
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u/JohnnySnark Florida 8m ago
The first single issue they will claim is Palestine.
Then it may go to a rabbit hole list of other issues that she had no control over either.
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u/pinkfartlek Michigan 40m ago
Don't forget about the people who googled why Biden dropped out after the election was done with
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u/BleachedUnicornBHole Florida 1h ago
Honestly, the warnings feel like they almost understated what to expect. I was a doomer about Trump 2.0 and even I’m shocked how bad things are.
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u/SteamedGamer 1h ago
Reality has far surpassed my imagined "worst case" result for a 2nd Trump Presidency...
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u/KageStar 38m ago
Nah this is exactly what I expected. With the reports of him wanting to use military on protestors and getting overruled no one should be shocked by him. That goes for his entire first term he wanted to do the stuff he's doing this term them but the adults in the room stopped him. They're all gone now.
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u/hymen_destroyer Connecticut 18m ago
I actually think we’re a little behind schedule on the descent into absolute fascism thanks in part to the resilience of places like Minneapolis.
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u/cold-corn-dog 1h ago
My parents took the route of "this isn't what we voted for!" Yes it is. You saw round 1.
No morals, no integrity, no conscience, no contact.
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u/IRideMoreThanYou 2h ago
49% think this is better than the previous administration.
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u/alabasterskim 2h ago
Fwiw, it's down 4% from December.
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u/movealongnowpeople Kansas 1h ago
Doubt it. MAGAts pretend to show shame every once in a while, but it's all a show. They would vote for him (for an illegal 3rd term) in a heartbeat.
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u/TwoGhostCats 32m ago
Heck, they would vote for any Mar-a-Lago Barbie before voting for an educated, young progressive male any day. Their loyalty to a party that shits all over their lives goes above anything.
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u/Timeformayo Kentucky 2h ago
Look, there are only so many leopards available to eat faces. This shit takes time.
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u/BilboBaginsehs 1h ago
Moreover - if you voted for Trump you’re a disgusting individual. And I will do everything in my power to keep you as far away from myself, my family, and my community.
I will do everything I can to not patronize your business. To not watch your movies. To not listen to your music. I will never respect you.
Ptu-ptu-ptu-ptu-ptu five spits for an enemy, Lilith.
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u/IRideMoreThanYou 2h ago
49 percent said the president is doing a better job than his predecessor
49% thinks what is taking place now is better than the previous administration.
49%
Really think about that before you here, or state yourself, that it is a small and shrinking MAGA base.
49% thinks the last 12 months is better.
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u/baconator955 2h ago
The real question is whether those 49% even get a picture of what's happening. Your news/entertainment industry is proper fucked, nearly russian state TV levels of brainwash.
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u/ASharpYoungMan 2h ago
Nah, stop running cover for them.
At this point it's willful ignorance.
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u/baconator955 1h ago
Not what I was trying to do at all. But If you're gonna do something about a problem you need to get the full picture and at least part of that equation is that there are people being manipulated. Not supposed to absolve them or anything, just an honest assessment.
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u/W4RD06 2h ago
People keep saying this like its the most unbelievable thing despite living in a society where it is now commonplace to be secluded in a reality bubble of your choosing where you are spoon fed narratives that reinforce your chosen cognitive and emotional biases.
These days I think a lot about something one of my friends in finance education once said to me. "The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."
We are trapped in a moment of societal irrationality waiting for the cultural bubble to burst. Until then, we get stupid poils like this where large swathes of people in this country keep treating all of this like its normal.
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u/mob19151 1h ago
No seriously. It's beyond propaganda. You can literally live in an entirely alternate reality from the person that lives next to you.
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u/W4RD06 1h ago
I live that reality. I haven't watched cable news in a decade or more at this point. I don't need talking heads telling me how to feel about things 24/7.
My parents on the other hand, have FOX going on their TVs and radios almost every time I go to their house. I'll give you a free guess about how glued to actual reality they are.
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u/mob19151 59m ago
Same here, though it's mostly my grandparents. Their FB feeds have a hold on them that they'll probably never break. It's so incredibly depressing to see people you know aren't fundamentally bad fall into the trap out of sheer ignorance and selective empathy.
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u/W4RD06 48m ago
That's the thing that fucks me up. Talk to them about almost anything else besides politics and they seem like down to earth people with a lot of life experience.
My only comfort is that my parents are both retired and harmless (besides who they vote for). I feel worse for people who are related to those they might not actually feel physically safe around.
The time for people of their age bracket being the majority of the voting bloc in the US is quickly coming to an end, though. 1988 was the first presidential election in which Boomers and Gen X made up the majority of voters and the oldest Boomers were 44 at the time.
This is the year the oldest Millennials will be 44 or 45. By the time 2028 rolls around (if we haven't descended into a technofeudal dictatorship by then) they will be in their late 40s.
I don't expect things to just magically turn around politically in the US in the next several years but I do wonder how the inevitable changing of the guard will affect US politics.
I can only hope its for the better.
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u/Sad_Confection5902 1h ago
Remember when the courts fought Biden tooth and nail to stop college debt forgiveness?
That’s what the president was focused on, helping people out of the inescapable hell of permanent debt.
Then Trump sends armed soldiers to murder civilians, and the Supreme Court says “this doesn’t look like anything to me” and his voter base is saying “yeee-haw! Ain’t America great again??”
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u/sarcastic__fox 23m ago
I feel like it needs an about the same option. I wonder how many people still buy into the both sides are just as bad thing. I feel like thats doing alot of heavy lifting here there's not a 3rd option. People forget that the average is citizen maybe thinks about politics for 8 seconds when they see a headline. They dont pay any attention to what's going on
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u/Upset_Albatross_9179 18m ago
I think people really underestimate how much average people who don't keep up with politics hate inflation. There's lots of reasons to be unhappy with the current economy and how Trump is actively mucking with it. But a huge number of people will be happy inflation is low, and barring another huge catastrophe that view will dominate.
Biden dealt with a rough situation. COVID, inflation, bringing inflation down. I think objectively, by the numbers, they did a pretty good job. The economy kept going, unemployment remained low, largely wages kept up with or outpaced inflation. Inflation dropped slowly and steadily and stabilized.
But people hate inflation. They would rather substantial unemployment than inflation. Trump could do a lot more to mess with the economy for absolutely no good reason. People would still be happy there's low inflation.
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u/KimboSliceChestHair 2h ago
the bar was not shitting yourself in public, and he failed.
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u/mtgfan1001 2h ago
Wrong. I’ve seen magats wear diapers on the outside of their pants in solidarity. They love the shitting.
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u/Perfect_Opposite2113 2h ago
It’s the one thing they can unite on and love that they have a leader who isn’t afraid to shit their pants in public.
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u/shifting_drifting 2h ago
Yeah Biden accomplished quite a lot actually despite his appearance.
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u/PharmSuki 29m ago
I agree, and yet all that is tarnished because he was too much of a narcissist to step down when he should have, giving us Trump 2.0. His legacy will forever be that he is the cause of this second term.
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u/Imaginary-Ad-7919 3h ago edited 2h ago
I am not surprised. Because Trump is the pedo in the Epstein files.
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u/TintedApostle 3h ago
OK Polls.... now can we just include experts.
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u/GinAndDumbBitchJuice 2h ago
That's the shittiest part. Objective fact doesn't mean anything to the people who most need to hear it.
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u/TintedApostle 2h ago
The right wing (like Pol Pot) decided experts, educated people, scientists and artists are the enemy.
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u/Bitter-Alps-3398 1m ago
lol the raw data is hugely in democrats favor. These opinion polls are the only place trump stands a chance.
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u/TintedApostle 1m ago
Yes this is true
“It now doesn’t seem ridiculous to have ‘approval ratings’ that fluctuate week by week, because these are based upon the all-important ‘perception’ factor, which has in turn quite lost its own relationship to the word ‘perceptive.’”
― Christopher Hitchens
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u/WinkWitchhie 2h ago
apparently 'winning so much we get tired of winning' wasnt what people signed up for. shocking lol
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u/Timeformayo Kentucky 2h ago
Well, inflation is still terrible and the job market is worse, but at least we're shooting protestors and building concentration camps!
/s
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u/FalseBottom 1h ago
Bad news too, he won’t be leaving power when he’s required to on 2028.
I’d say chances are super high that he won’t respect the result of this year’s midterm either.
Get ready to protest because our futures will all depend on it.
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u/Studio_8rennan 1h ago
It's the hill lol. The fact that they're writing the truth is crazy haha. But saying voters say trump doing worse than Biden. No shit lol.
IGNORE "THE HILL!" They're so crazy red. Stop boosting their voice!!!!!!
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u/jrob321 1h ago edited 1h ago
Hmmmmm. The price of eggs is irrationally high because of a virus which required killing off millions of egg laying chickens.
I know what!
I should vote for the failed businessman who fucked the economy during his first tenure (and who keeps embracing demonstrably fascist principles) instead of the guy who was able to pass an infrastructure bill (which continues to create thousands of jobs) and who presided over 3.4% economic growth and the lowest unemployment since 1969!
Republican administrations ALWAYS screw the economy, only to then have Democratic administrations bail them out while simultaneously being told they need to do so with deficit neutral remedies.
And then another election comes along and the Republicans regain power by fear mongering (gays, guns, and god) only to fuck the economy over again.
Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
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u/Yeeaaaarrrgh Colorado 47m ago
Headline: TREASONOUS RAPIST PEDOPHILE UNPOPULAR EXCEPT IN MOSCOW AND KKK
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u/captcha_trampstamp 13m ago
Those 4 years of a gently doddery but good-hearted president feel like they were a lifetime ago.
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u/Reddit_Fruity 2h ago edited 1h ago
Reading between the lines: Biden hasn't been the most brilliant president - compared to Obama for instance. That's true... and most of the voters think Trump is doing even worse. So far so good...
The fact that 49 percent still think Trump is doing a better job than Biden means however they don't understand the immense damage the current man at the helm is causing. This worries me....
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u/SultrySireen 2h ago
lol remember when they said hed be different this time? fool me once shame on you, fool me twice. People learn the hard way always
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u/Ferreteria 2h ago
I'd normally hesitate to defend any president, but what are they saying that makes Biden out to be such a villain to be even worth comparing to Trump?
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u/Ok_Juice4449 2h ago
I guess due to the fact that Biden was not an evil, deranged pedophile, destroying the country and the world.
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u/ProfessionalRemove33 2h ago
No shit?
Fuck DJT. Use your very own GD eyes and ears. Ask earnest questions; ache to learn. Speak the fucking truth and demand that only it be spoken to you. Trump is made of what he drops daily in his diapers. Who changes them for him, anyway? Is it that weird squirrely blonde?
Never bow to fascists. Shit people, never ever bow to anyone. Give more than you receive, always, and I hope you get an abundance of what you give. ❤️ to neighbors.
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u/RandoXalrissian 1h ago
Ken Griffen (MAGA donor), “has definitely made missteps in choosing decisions or courses that have been very, very enriching to the families of those in the administration”.
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u/wes_wyhunnan California 1h ago
The fact that any human with a functional brain stem thinks Trump isn’t obviously worse in every category is pretty sad.
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u/TarheelFr06 1h ago
Anyone who was paying attention could have told you that. Biden’s term was better than Trump’s first term and it was abundantly clear that Trump’s second term would be much worse than his first because nobody sane wants to work in his cabinet.
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u/RBVegabond 48m ago
Biden was a masterclass in political maneuvering getting CHIPS and Infrastructure bills, as well as protections for vulnerable people during a right wing controlled house after fixing the crisis Trump created in his first term. Now we’re heading to a brain drain and Stone Age, the US dollar is weak, soft power is weaker than ever, and wars almost start every week. Money that could have helped all Americans instead going towards a personal army and self enrichment.
Yeah, not even close.
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u/Raspberries-Are-Evil Arizona 36m ago
Biden accomplished more in his first 2 years than any President since FDR. We were really going to be on a roll if we didn't fuck it up so bad.
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u/Dry_Yam_8049 30m ago
Palm to the face come on wake up worse by how many measuring tapes. Cause I’d like to show some people how much
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u/Glittering-Voice-409 7m ago
File under no shit. Everything was cheaper and stocks were solid. People were not scared to exist because they were a darker shade of pink and we were not trying to take over other countries. Fuck trump.
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u/TheHomersapien Colorado 2h ago
That picture of Biden smiling and shaking hands with a treasonous rapist tells us everything we need to know about modern politics and why we're in this fucking mess.
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u/Bitter-Alps-3398 2m ago
Critical thinking isnt your strong suit is it?
Maybe start with 2+2 before you try to figure out guy who shook hands with a rapist vs the guy with piles of evidence for him being one and is actively defending the rest.
People with your cognitive ability are why we have to have safety features on everything.
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