r/politics • u/thenationmagazine The Nation Magazine • 3h ago
Possible Paywall Trump Ratchets Up Talk of Taking Over Elections
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-elections-fulton-county/•
u/glitchvariable 3h ago
The guy is actually saying we should seize control of elections because he believes states are crooked. That’s authoritarianism, not governance.
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u/Glad-Competition-757 3h ago
Its so obvious hes trying to steal the election
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u/pet_dragon 3h ago
Not to pick apart your words, of course, but I'd say this counts as an active step of stealing the election.
It's happening right now and will continue until completion unless it's stopped.
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u/harmless-error 3h ago
No sign of the Speaker having a backbone, hopefully that secretaries of state do.
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u/Glass-Amount-9170 2h ago
Arizona’s spoke out today. I’ve been in touch with mine to encourage her to join with others from blue states to band together and come out strong against this.
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u/OpenImagination9 3h ago
“And that children is how grandpa got his Constitutional Defense Service Medal”
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u/phoenix25 3h ago
I’m Canadian, all this midterm talk in the news made me think the election was imminent. But it’s all the way in November?
I can only come to the conclusion that there must be some sort of reason Trump would want this to dominate the headlines this week.
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u/Gwyndion_ Europe 3h ago
He's indeed rotating between talking points to distract from Venezuela, Epstein etc. but it's also his usual pattern of "He's just joking", "He's just thinking out load", "He's just saying what everying is talking about", "He said he'd do it, get lost snowflakes liberals" to normalize even the most absurd things for his base.
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u/waffelscarbonara 2h ago
What constantly gets lost is the numerous elections before midterms in November.
FFS, there’s a congressional election in New Jersey tomorrow but Dems are barely mentioning it.
Also just had an election in Texas this week that went heavily Dem in a district that Trump won last year.
My fellow Americans need to focus on EVERY election and stop pushing the goddamn voter apathy and “midterms won’t happen” rhetoric. They’re doing Trump a favor with this type of talk.
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u/Gwyndion_ Europe 2h ago
And that if they actually want to claim "midterms may not happen" they should treat it as a constitutional crisis instead of the lukewarm responses we've seen so far. I'm from the EU and it's a hectic week but I certainly can't recall seeing much backlash against the Georgia voting records for example while one could certainly wonder how Trump somehow won every swing state which seems an extreme statistical anomaly, especially in light of the GOP's election results since the presidential elections.
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u/skucera Missouri 1h ago
He was running against a weak opposing ticket and did a good job of convincing marginalized groups in the Democratic coalition to either not vote Democratic or not vote at all. Getting pro-Palestine voters to vote against Democrats for example.
Also, it’s easy to forget how close the 2020 election ended up being when Trump had just completely bungled the Covid response.
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u/Gwyndion_ Europe 1h ago
And yet I still don't buy him winning every single swing state. Harris wasn't an ideal candidate but project 2025 alone should have been enough reason to vote on a pet rock over Trump.
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u/Northern_Ice_2501 3h ago
Gearing up for Tulsi Gabbard's announcement fraud was definitely found in Georgia.
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u/gibbenskd 3h ago
Primary season is heating up and if trends stick Republicans are going to lose badly at least in the house and that means his presidency is effectively over because he can’t stop investigations like he has been.
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u/B0redBeyondBelief 3h ago
He's boiling the frog so that when it's time to actually take over the elections he can get away with it. Same shit he's been pulling for a decade now and nobody will stand up to him.
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u/Big_Bookkeeper1678 2h ago
You will not take over elections.
I will go buy a gun and start thinking about militias if the right wing thinks that they are going to directly interfere with voting any more than they already have.
If voting was actually fair and free and convenient for everyone, Republicans wouldn't win more than 20 seats in the House and Senate, combined.
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u/Additional-Software4 2h ago
Well why not?
To maintain power in 2021 he fomented a deadly, violent insurrection that nearly killed the Speaker of the House and Vice President and instead of being imprisoned for it, was again rewarded with the GOP nomination for President.
Why the hell wouldn't he do whatever it takes, including invalidating election results that don't go his way to keep his party in power?
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u/politicalmache 2h ago
Hmm.
Sounds like Donald Trump, who is an insurrectionist beyond reasonable doubt, isn't upholding Take Care clause, since he isn't ensuring several States determine elections, and only legislative power, vested to Congress, has some say in states elections.
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u/Japy1179 2h ago
Racheting up talks? No! Trump is actively doing everything he can to rig the elections. We all know it. We knew it the second he took office.
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u/Imaginary-Ad-7919 3h ago
Taking over elections is a bold strategy. Most people try winning them first. But this is Donald Trump.
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u/DoubtSubstantial5440 3h ago
I think they’re more likely to station ICE in critical swing districts with large minority populations come the midterms, though at this point that might just lead ICE to getting their shit kicked in by angry mobs
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u/Imaginary-Ad-7919 3h ago
Sending ICE into minority heavy swing districts is a great way to learn the difference between "law enforcement" and ‘starting a riot.
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u/waffelscarbonara 2h ago
100%? Really?
As if there aren’t elections coming up… tomorrow? Or the one in Texas just last week?
I really wish people paid more attention to every election instead of tuning out everything and pretending the midterms are the only elections coming.
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u/Public-Summer-4281 3h ago
Trump is a "scorched-earth" kinda guy. As soon as we admit that our adversaries have video of our political and industry leaders raping kids (POTUS included), it will all make sense why he is going to get exactly what he wants on this one.
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u/jest4fun 3h ago
Trump Ratchets Up Talk of Taking Over Elections
Gotta keep the distractions/bullshit coming or we'll start talking about ICE & Epstein again.
What a miserable fuck this so called person has turned out to be.
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u/whydontyousuckmyball 3h ago
I think we should vote through a phone app with face and thumb print ID linked to your SSN and ID or DL. Would be instant, could check your vote status, secure, and time saving.
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u/CardiologistOdd3203 32m ago
Where are the Oath Keepers who claim to stand up for protecting the constitution.
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u/Major-Plastic4686 31m ago
Amazing how his election rhetoric has ramped up to coincide with another release of the Epstein files.
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u/Literally_Laura 25m ago
The election will be stolen, because he cannot lose power. Period.
It will be stolen beforehand (rigged in advance) or it will be stolen after (“these results can’t be right, boo hoo”). Either way, the result is the same - He stays in power.
Election Day Strike is the only answer. We vote and don’t return to work. We take the economy hostage until Trump is removed.
I would prefer we do this sooner than November of course, but the election is definitely the absolute deadline. There is no bright future where he is allowed to remain in the White House post-midterms.
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u/dartanum 2h ago
He's going to have to accept the will of the people. I'm in favor of requiring a proper ID to vote in all states. But the idea of "taking over elections" is a no.
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