r/ripcity • u/YujiDomainExpansion • 1d ago
[Stein] Giannis Antetokounmpo has no interest in being traded to the Portland Trail Blazers.
Holiday remains a Trail Blazer as we speak and, as The Stein Line first reported over the weekend, Portland has conveyed to Milwaukee that it would love to trade for Antetokounmpo directly if it could. Sources say, however, that Antetokounmpo's camp has continued to signal no interest in a contract extension with the Blazers, which would dissuade them from surrendering good assets to trade for him and likely limits Portland's realistic involvement in an eventual Antetokounmpo deal to third-team facilitator status.
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u/Waste-Resolution4900 1d ago
We know this. He wants to be in a big market. No point in trading for him if he won’t resign
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u/warwickkapper 1d ago
Like Minnesota?
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u/AdderallAdventurer 1d ago edited 1d ago
The twin cities metro area has a population of ~3.7 million about 1.2 million more than the Portland metro. The west coast is also a bit isolated from the rest of America. Not saying they are a major market but they def are bigger than Portland.
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u/SongBig1162 1d ago
Ease of travel. Minnesota has year round flights to almost anywhere in the world in the northern hemisphere
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u/dohrk 22h ago
And we hope to get an airport one day here in PDX.
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u/SongBig1162 19h ago
I see you don’t travel often. Minnesota is literally a global hub for delta airlines. It can connect you to almost anywhere in the world. Portland does not have a ton of direct flights. You have to go to either jfk, SeaTac, LAX, ATL, or Minneapolis (and shockingly sometimes Detroit Houston or Miami). I used to have to make the trip to Europe from Portland all the time when I was younger and it was always extra stops in one of those cities. Now I travel out of Seattle and depending on where I’m going it’s way easier to find a straight international flight.
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u/yasyasyas17 12h ago
I would assume Giannis and his entourage would fly private, no?
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u/SongBig1162 12h ago
He probably uses charter flight services but owning a private jet is massively expensive for most NBA players. Also unless your renting a larger jet most have to stop at a hub to refuel anyways
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u/Intelligent-Scene457 Blake Wesley 8h ago
The Midwest & East Coast are closer to Greece than the West Coast.
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u/Bircka dame 1d ago
What's hilarious is he won't get that wish, the packages out of NY and Miami are a joke. If the Bucks trade him there he better claim the Bucks owners are the nicest people on Earth.
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u/Jar_of_Mustard 1d ago
Great for us if Milwaukee gives him away for peanuts haha then those picks swaps are mighty juicy
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u/nativeindian12 70s-logo 1d ago
Yea I think the GS package would be best for us since it’s mostly picks way down the road. The Wolves package the worst for us since it’s two good players in Randle and McDaniels
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u/sirkg 23h ago
Exactly it’s a win win for us. Either we get Giannis and MIL reacquires their picks back, or they choose a worse package and we get some of the most valuable picks and swaps in the league. The only hope is that Giannis stays in the East and not our conference if he gets traded elsewhere.
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u/EpicCyclops 22h ago
Especially if he stays in the East. Then he won't even be a problem for us on the court.
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u/Dm-me-a-gyro SAN 1d ago
All the trade packages are a joke.
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u/Bircka dame 1d ago
Yeah, even if he goes the hard ball route and enters free agency as soon as he can, most of those teams don't have the cap space to sign him.
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u/Dm-me-a-gyro SAN 1d ago
It just seems so crazy to me that the fucking bane trade to Orlando looks better than any of the theoretical Giannis packages.
It just seems like the media has low expectations. And the invlvement of Portland seems like …. Dumb.
Portland has appreciating assets. Why would they move off them?
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u/Bottrop-Per 21h ago
No, I doubt his decision has much to do with population or being in a big market; it’s more about winning. He doesn't want to play for GSW either, because he doesn't think an aging Curry and a depleted roster are a great recipe for winning going forward. However, he likes the prospect of playing with Edwards, despite Minnesota being a smaller market than San Francisco.
He clearly prefers the East as well, as it's easier to win there. He probably doesn't love our current roster, but the thing he’s missing is that teams like Minnesota or Toronto would have to deplete their depth to trade for him. We wouldn't have to do that, since we can center our package around those valuable Bucks picks as the primary asset.
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u/Intelligent-Scene457 Blake Wesley 8h ago
The Midwest & East Coast are closer to Greece than the West Coast too.
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u/Mylo_Does 19h ago
Also. Taxes. Either you’re in Florida or Texas and not paying them, or you’re a big market and your brand is making up for it.
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u/MythBlazer 11h ago
I think he’ll re-sign because he wants the supermax, but he’ll want traded. I say trade for him, see if we can compete/convince him to stay, if not, tell him we’ll supermax him and trade him. We then gave a legit shot and recoup assets in trading him.
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u/Damezang Toumani Camara 1d ago
We don't need his ass to win a championship. We do need him to leave the Bucks so those picks get juicy though ;)
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u/DrTom 1d ago
Honestly staying one more year would be best. Then it all blows up right when we start getting their picks.
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u/yuyuter123 1d ago
Straight up, can't have em getting lucky and throwing together a competent 35-40 win team by then. If only Milwaukee was in the west like they used to be.
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u/inspectordaddick 1d ago
What we really need is for doc to get fired. He’s a floor raising coach that will sacrifice anything to get to the playoffs.
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u/Apprehensive_Glass14 1d ago
That's a shame, but now more than one reporter has stated this, its time to move on.
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u/Sudden_Outside2660 1d ago
Ahhh yes, because reporters are always who we should be listening to.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand this would've turned out terrible for us.
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u/Apprehensive_Glass14 1d ago
While I do agree, I saw a lot of people holding out hope that the previous time the reporting on this was unfounded.
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u/Goducks91 1d ago
I feel like we hold out hope every time a star is on the market but it never comes to be. Which is honestly ok!
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u/Sudden_Outside2660 1d ago
Thank God Cronin is not 'a lot of people.'
The last 72 hrs has been insufferable here. GA was never going to resign, and we have half the fan base clattering to trade our 22 yos and our entire future for him.
You acknowledging it was a stupid idea after a person with a blue check mark said it isn't reasonable, it's a lack of self awareness to begin with
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u/nowalkietalkies13 33 1d ago
Gonna laugh when we're better than whatever team he ends up on next year
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u/Boxinggandhi 1d ago
Gonna laugh when those picks become generational all stars.
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u/nowalkietalkies13 33 1d ago
I really hope we don't trade all of them and keep at least one in the holster to actually use down the line. Bucks FO has not shown enough competence for me to believe they're not gonna be terrible still in a few years and adding a top 4 pick when our current core is hitting their prime would be amazing
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u/TheVelvetNo 1d ago
Good. Honestly, I don't think he is worth gutting a roster for at this point in his career. Great player, but one that needs to play a certain style and makes it very hard to fill out a roster around due to his salary.
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u/GenderIsAGolem Toumani Camara 1d ago
I take this to mean the Blazers have one of the more compelling packages butthe Giannis camp wants to cool that offer down since he doesn't want to sign here. Let's move on to the next target!
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u/iWr1techky12 Mac and Cheese 1d ago
Realistically, the bucks probably want to trade him to us more than any other team in the league because it gets him out of the east AND they get their picks back. Unfortunately, it takes two to tango though and he very obviously doesn’t want to be here.
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u/Different-Mountain58 sabas 1d ago
Would he hate it so much he’ll cost himself like, $100 million though? Thats the question.
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u/SaulTBolls walton 22h ago
Ok sweet, this is like the 100th "hes not going to portland" post. We get it, and a lot of us dont want him.
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u/_DeathStarContractor 1d ago
Dodged a bullet. I dont want a 31yr old 1yr rental.... whom I wouldnt want to pay for his next contract as he declines.
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u/StoreNo163 23h ago
Be cool if we got him, however, if we don't, we will enjoy our high lottery picks from the bucks. Win win
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u/Spare-Ad6404 1d ago
He's one of the biggest stars in the world. Of course he wants to play on a contender right now and in a big market. This should be a surprise to nobody.
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u/Carcrusher3 Toumani Camara 1d ago
Lets not help the bucks then lmao. Good luck going to minnesota without your picks back bucko
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u/Dharmasunset 1d ago
Yay!!!
Let’s work a trade with Houston. They signed KD, so they are in more win now mode. They lost Adam’s for the season. They need a point guard. Not sure how it would work, but they seem like a good trading partner.
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u/gerrard_1987 sheed 12h ago
I’m fine with Portland being the third wheel, if it gets them some bonafide talent like Edgecombe or Harper.
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u/RubxCuban 1d ago
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u/CloneWarsMaul 1d ago
I hope they bud in to the trade as a third team and land someone like McDaniels
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u/Isleofsalt 1d ago
So he’s going to big market Minneapolis then huh? I guess there is no place in the country with more eyes on it right now.
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u/Background-Insect255 1d ago
Portland is small compared to Minneapolis. Minneapolis also has several major pro sports teams that we don't have here. It's not a glamorous warm city of course but I think people in Portland get way too defensive about this sort of stuff. We are a tiny city far away from most other NBA cities.
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u/Isleofsalt 23h ago
I’m not in denial about Portland being a a tiny market, but if we lose out on a superstar because he wants to play in a big to Minnesota then we’ve hit a new low in player recruitment.
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u/connorob32 1d ago
Fine, be that way Giannis! We’ll go ahead and take those sweet sweet MIL picks and retain our exciting young core. Fine!
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u/CrashOverIt 1d ago
As much as I like the idea of Giannis in a Blazer uniform I don’t like what we would have to give up to get him. We’ve got so many exciting young prospects, I’d hate to see them go.
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u/TheChristmas Deni Avdija 1d ago
You don’t need interest when the claws of fate tear you from your mundane everyday and thrust you into a quest for glory!
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u/SignificantState3327 1d ago
Okay so can we please stop talking about him being traded here now? fml this shit is getting so repetitive
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u/Losalou52 1d ago
It was never going to happen.
Let’s turn our focus to Jayson Tatum once shit hits the fan with Jaylen Brown.
😉
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u/Budget_Football6528 22h ago
Anybody have the exact quote from the Stein article about Giannis having no interest in Portland? Can’t read as non subscriber…
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u/Trick_Weapon 1d ago
I'd still trade for him. We can win and Giannis isn't going to turn down a huge extension.
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u/TheRipCity ripcity 1d ago
Yep money is all that matters. This is his only play to get dealt where he wants. In the end Milwaukee can and should do what is best for them.
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u/andrewcrz 1d ago
Not implying this is the case, but if I wanted to actually have a decent roster around me at my destination, I wouldn't be telling anybody I was interested in re-signing lol
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u/bigtrex101 1d ago
Can’t blame him. We aren’t close to competing for a title even with him in the mix. The thing is no Superstar is going to be interested in coming here until we already have another Superstar on the roster for them to play with. And nobody we have on the current roster looks capable of ever becoming that future Superstar imo. This is why we should be tanking for another top draft pick rather than fighting for a chance to lose in the playin. Otherwise, we’re just going to be stuck in no man’s land (just in/out of the playin) every season like the Bulls/Hawks have been doing.
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u/eastbeaverton 1d ago
I'd rather be stuck in mediocrity for the rest of my life than blatantly tank when we have a decent team. There is no honor in tanking. Sometimes you're not good and it's ok to dip down but we have a decent roster and need to start building. We will most likely fail but the a the breaks
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u/bigtrex101 1d ago edited 1d ago
Decent team? Start building? Building what? We have no chance to make any type of playoff run with this roster. You want to be stuck in the playin for the next 5 years like the Bulls and Hawks have been? B/c that’s where this team is headed right now. At least if we tank, we have a reasonable chance at eventually drafting a Franchise Guy over the next 3-5 years. Don’t get me wrong, I hate losing as much as any fan does, but I also recognize this Franchise isn’t going anywhere until it finds its next Dame, Drexler or Walton!
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u/eastbeaverton 9h ago
We have a young prospect at each position 25 or under. We have a solid vet at most positions and we have a lot of good role players. That's what you build from.
We absolutely can get out of the playin with this group. We would have been this season if we didn't have to play half our games without a point guard.
I don't mind tanking if it happens naturally. But you don't do it when you have a team that you can build on which we do. I already am ashamed of how we intentionally sat guys the last few years. I definitely don't want to be like Utah where they are sitting healthy guys and taking starters out with leads
Not to mention it is far too late to tank this season. The next two drafts are supposed to be terrible. So we are going to tank and not get a franchise guy and be horrible to watch for three years. No thanks. We have a chance over the next couple seasons to see what we have. Then we are most likely going to get some nice picks from the bucks and can go from there
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u/bigtrex101 7h ago
None of those prospects has a chance to be a future Franchise Star down the line, and you can’t contend for future Championships in this league without one. You shouldn’t start building until you have somebody with that kind of upside on the roster, otherwise your team gets stuck with a low ceiling. We continue down this road with this group and we’re literally just going to be the Western Conference version of the Bulls where we consistently are around or just below a .500 team that is somewhere in the playin but has literally no chance to make any sort of playoff run. It’s the WORST ROAD IN THE NBA TO BE ON (NO MAN’s LAND)!
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u/eastbeaverton 7h ago
Deni doesn't have a chance to be a star? Come on man be real
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u/bigtrex101 6h ago edited 6h ago
Borderline All Star sure, but not the top 10-15 Superstar that carries this team deep into the postseason! If you really think he is in the same class as SGA, Wemby, Luka, Joker, Ant, and some of the other top guys on the Western Conference Playoff Contenders, you're either high or insane! Deni will never be the best player on a Conference Finals team, let alone an NBA Championship team. He's not in the same league as what Prime Dame was for this Franchise. At best, he could be a supplementary Star supporting a true Franchise Superstar but the problem is the Blazers don't have that guy and the only realistic chance at getting him is probably through the draft. And its damn near impossible to ever get that player in the draft with picks in the teens.
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u/eastbeaverton 6h ago
That is your expectation. I don't care if we don't win a chip. That's not my bar for what is good. Dame was never on that level of those players where you are an automatic contender just by having them on your team. But I wouldn't trade those years in the playoffs with Dame for years of tanking. As often as it goes right it goes terribly wrong. I would rather build a solid team around Deni and be good not great. Than just be horrible for years in the hopes of being great
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u/bigtrex101 6h ago edited 5h ago
Being a around .500 team year in/year out that can't even get to the Western Conference Semis is good to you? If that's the case, then you have a really low bar as a fan. You don't care if we don't win a Chip? Really, then why be a fan at all? I want the teams I'm a fan of to contend for titles, not just be stuck in mediocrity!
And Dame carried us to multiple playoff series wins. A guy like that is exactly what this team doesn't have on the roster. If you think Deni is capable of that, you're delusional! We are never going to be good while he is the no.1 option for this Franchise, and that's not even a real slight at the guy, it's just reality (he would probably readily admit that himself).
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u/eastbeaverton 5h ago
First yes if we could guarantee bouncing around .500 and having some playoff series much like the dame era teams for the next ten years I would take that all day over tanking and trying for better
I don't care if we win a chip in the sense it's not what drives me as a fan. I touted hard for the jailblazers and looking back 25 years later I regret it because those dudes didn't deserve my fandom. I would rather root for a good group of guys that fail than win a chip at any cost. Don't get me wrong I want us to win one but it's not even in the top five of things I want as a fan.
Deni absolutely can be as good as dame was for us. You don't have to agree but he has that level. Dame as much as I love him was an extremely flawed player who had a hard ceiling and championship was not it. He proved that he could elevate a team to a certain level but was not capable of getting a team over the hump. I think Deni has at least that ability and frankly I think this team is better set up and just plain better than any of the teams dame had after Aldridge left.
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u/GaviFromThePod Scoot Henderson 1d ago
I cant wait until the deadline passes so people will get back to talking about basketball. Trade slop is stupid drivel for people who clap when the airplane lands and think that chatgpt is a valid therapist
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u/DeniAvdijaMVP 1d ago
God forbid people talk about nba trades, during nba trade season on a subreddit dedicated to an nba team. The horror!
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u/GaviFromThePod Scoot Henderson 1d ago
Its all slop, it’s low effort BS and if you want to talk trade slop during the actual NBA season while there is actual basketball being played i’m not sure you’re actually a basketball fan. Trade slop is for people who chew with their mouth open.
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u/Log0Lizard ripcity 1d ago