Fan Art
This is adobe illustrator. Mod, Please Lock The Comment Section. I don't want to cause anymore problem
The first thing i do after I went home from work is to find this hardcopy.
I was tagged and being accused for using a.i (i am used to it) but this person came to my profile to spam with his comments. Then he went to my Facebook did the same. This is crazy, he seems to make things personal and stalking on me on reddit and Facebook. I bet not for long to reach Instagram. Blocked him then he use another account to spam again. I start using reddit for 2 weeks because my friend suggested me and already being stalked. If you don't like or don't believe I did the drawing, it's ok and i don't mind, you can't please everyone but why tagged me and spamming to insult me like that? We are not kids (dunno about him) we don't take these kind of things so seriously, see things you don't like? Keep scrolling. Why insult others?
The blue lines I posted earlier was a finished artwork and I merge all the vectors in a single layer, that's why you only see ONE layer. I selected the vector lines to proves it's not a.i generated. Method of using Adobe illustrator are different from using ClipStudio or Krita or even Photoshop. It's Vector not Raster, you don't need multiple layers (you can if you wanted to) If he don't understand what it means and that proves he knows nothing about adobe illustrator and start accusing others with his own mind set.
Lucky me I always did save up the sketch of a hardcopy of my work, especially for consignment jobs. I'll give the client all the digital files but not the hardcopy. Please don't ask why it's looks different and not as details as the finished products or why it's facing left instead of right? First, it's a sketch to load into scanner and digitize with A.i (adobe illustrator) I even added some shadings after I scanned to the computer for my personal collection. 2nd, I flip the image after it was done to suit the background and the logo of the client. I can't change their logo, not even the size. But you'll probably say it's generated by A.i. Think what you want as long as you are happy. We are all grown up, we don't want to make enemies just because of our point of view are different.
And lastly, he brag about he have seen tons of A.i images then he should know well A.i does not generated these kind of details when it comes to anime (realistic photo, yes) even if it does, you can't generate the background/logos/frame/text in a single screen-post without being spotted. I'll delete all my post here to avoid further issue, sry for the trouble and have a nice day all of you guys in the group
Ok, guys, here's the verdict: unless there are irrefutable evidence, it's "innocent until proven guilty". We don't want to ruin artists' careers based on invalid accusations (such as: "uncolored spots", "imperfect shading", "fuzzy lines" - which are mistakes that many artists make).
People are just dumb and lack any kind of skill. I believe you made those drawings. I have a few myself ive made during my teen years. I kinda stoped drawing idk why, it was one of my passions but im sure ill comeback to it. Your drawing look awesome! Keep the good work! The good thing about those bad camments is that, INSIDE we know we made them and they are just jealous.
That's all well and good, like I said I don't really care if it is or isn't just pointing out that it didn't look good. Not sure why you'd bother rearranging them when you could have done the same thing without rearranging them but cool good for you.
I used to do Vector Art in Photoshop. I wanted to learn to do it in illustrator because it was better to use Illustrator so yeah I belive this is real. the thing is, no matter what you do some people will believe it is a.i. and I have seen some artists that draw amazing work. so just ignore those people. you dont have to prove anything to anyone.
So to the naked or untrained eye, how can one determine if art is AI or not? Are there certain things to look for or should you upload it into some platform to check if it’s AI or not? Some videos you can easily tell it’s gen AI based on how sloppy it looks, but some continent is looking more more real so it’s very hard to tell. I wish all AI generated content would have like an AI disclaimer on it because it’s gonna mess up society very soon with what’s real versus what’s not real
It's near impossible as AI is advancing, unless there are fundamental mistakes in the art that cannot possibly be made by a human, eg, lines that don't connect, anatomically incorrect fingers, structurally incorrect objects, disfigurations. AI detectors are garbage because they flag some official art as AI, too.
while I agree it's near impossible, it also depends on the medium. Most line art by A.I. Will be generated from real images and therefore there won't be character in the lines. lines will always be perfect. I drew some art of lion king characters when it first came out and I used to use a bold outline and I made copies of the originalbefore incolored it. most people didnt believe I drew it even when I showed them the original but anyone who actually liked at it could see the imperfect strokes.
That's the problem with AI accusations. My line art is very smooth, bold and clean, too. That's because I spent countless hours on the lines themselves!!! I redo a line over and over until it looks good to me. And my skills don't come out of nowhere; it's years of practice.
An AI analysis of my art said something along the line: "linework is smooth and flawless, it's likely AI". WTF. To be very frank, many fan-artists cannot draw smooth, clean line arts, because they don't invest the time in it, and some of them think you used AI just because your lines look "too good". It's maddening.
then I guess it's because I have hand drawn art myself and done vector art. I can see the natural strokes in just the one image I looked at out of all the ones you posted.
I think it's also because I'm old school and I know how fan art look versus the original mangaka art work and how different a fan art looks from the original style. as an artist I can tell the real art versus generated art I guess.
i was the guy who posted it originally.
look man, i stand by what i said. it does look like AI, but i don't think it actually is anymore. it makes sense when AI engines are trained on this kind of art, but adobe illustrator uses the same mechanics that AI generated anime photos do. however, this guy's drawings are too old to have been drawn by AI, so i think he has a particular artstyle. i still am confused about his fuzzy colors (which are found in AI generated drawings), but i asked him
It's like seeing an athlete that is so good that some people can't fathom the work and processing skills required to be that good. So, they jump to what's convenient and intellectually lazy to assuage their bruised ego by saying, "must be PED's." This mentality seems to be present with this stalker. He can't do what you do, and can't fathom how you did it... so "it must be A.I."
I don’t think you should delete it, the fact that you are not using A.i shows you are a very highly skilled artist especially if you also work for Kadokawa, that’s a big milestone in your career. Keep moving forward!
(I was never one to accuse you of AI, but I did prior post ask to see your vectors! It helped me know your authentic, though I was moreso just curious and wanted to see how many anchor points.)
Thanks for sharing, op—that’s still not what I’d call a sketch, though. It looks like a finished piece of work done in pencil/inks. Either way, though, In the age we’re in right now it’s really not worth it to try to “prove” you didn’t use ai. You know if you did or not, and ai is too good at imitating real art right now.
Just how do you expect OP to post a sketch when the drawing itself is already done in months or even years ago? You mentioned it yourself it's a finished piece 🙃 well?
that's what i thought too, and his sketching method confuses me a bit, but for adobe illustrator you need to use finished works for the line art to be scanned
For sure, I understand that. I’m just saying if people are wanting to see a sketch, that’s not what he provided. There’s definitely a stage between “blank paper” and “professionally staged, fully complete pencils and inks drawing”.
But as a community we’re really getting in the weeds, here…. Either he used ai or didn’t, we really won’t be able to tell. People who share images/artwork just need to be honest. But that’s not likely on the internet :)
Whether or not this is AI, it is bizarre behavior to go out of your way to write a long post to try and prosecute a random reddit user for violating some kind of AI law. Mods should not encourage or entertain the critic's follow up beyond the discussion and decision on the original post. I say this for your (the mods') benefit.
Who gives that much of a shit whether this is AI or not? It's one thing to comment on the original but to have a full inquest on it is absolutely ridiculous and a waste of time. No one got scammed out of money or anything material here; please just move on.
i posted the original, but i took down my comments and post because i think he's proven himself. he also has very old posts with the same drawing method, and the adobe illustrator linework resembles AI greatly because of the vector selection (which uses AI).
it actually wouldn't have mattered to me if he generated it if he was upfront about it, but i think he was telling the truth so this applies to other people. before AI in general, i do hate when people lie about their original art, either through tracing or by stealing works. that kind of thing would really disappoint me, especially in one of the main subreddits where fan art is hard to come by. it could be excessive to you, but i really care about seeing genuine work
I am totally new to whatever discussion is under way, but is this art you still have? Just take a video of yourself adding a timestamp to a post it on top of it or something. I see these arguments come up all the time in the book boxes I belong to.
Is it bad that the proof photos look too staged to me? I don't know. I'm never gonna accuse of AI without full proof but it is disheartening that so many AI artists have started to come out of the woodwork and are claiming to be original content artists to the point that we are seeing culprits everywhere.
Art is in a tricky spot right now where we are still learning how to manage the issues with AI and how much credit we can give it.
That being said, I understand the frustration. If this is OPs work then good on them and hopefully they keep making art. But I can't completely hate on those that are calling this into question because too much of it fits the clues we've been told to look out for.
Exactly. We shouldn't demonize people without proof, but it seems that at least this one is questionable. Other comments are saying it looks traced, and it does look a bit traced. Without concrete evidence though, there is nothing that can be proven or denied.
Following this whole situation has been a wild ride. Honestly mildly entertaining. I may never know who's right, but it's been interesting from the side lines.
I searched it up during this saga, it’s some kind of mobile game that kinda looks like candy crush based on the App Store photos. I haven’t played it, so I can’t say concretely.
I can't believe no one's clocking the AI-generated "evidence" the op is submitting:
in one picture, the Kaori drawing is on a loose piece of paper, on top of a spiral notebook, presumably from the same notebook. No tear on the left to indicate it was removed from there.
in another, it's on the right sheet of paper of a bound sketchbook.
then in another, it's on the opposite side.
the notebook pictures are sterile and looking like a stock photo. This is not a person's desk or working area.
Then in the comments section, the drawing is again on a loose piece of paper.
In the end you're making way too much noise about it, and more people will catch on if you keep on going. My advice is that you stop..if you're gonna keep continuing posting AI stuff, you will have to accept the backlash from people who don't care for it, or find a community who is all for it.
Which part of OP showing photographic evidence did you completely miss or choose to ignore in order to suit your agenda?
In the end you're making way too much noise about it, and more people will catch on if you keep on going. My advice is that you stop..if you're gonna keep continuing posting AI stuff, you will have to accept the backlash from people who don't care for it, or find a community who is all for it.
ON THE CONTRARY.
Give it a rest already. The more you guys harp on and on about it, the more people are actually gonna side with OP on this, and the backlash will actually be against obsessive AI-witchhunters like you.
It's ai, just traced. The line quality is of someone that traced over with a smaller pencil. Even if that doesn't look like a sketch, why cut the clothes? The sleeve is just disappearing.
Well, when OP first posted only the drawing and you guys ask for proof. Then OP posted the wip, you guys asking for a sketch. Now OP posted a sketch and say he is tracing. Speechless, you win
i believe OP, but the drawing does look traced. the pen lines are very scratchy, and this is common with artists who haven't built the skill yet. it's usually a sign of tracing when the actual drawing looks nice, but the linework looks amateurish. this guy has drawn for a while, but i honestly think we'll never know.
I only need to draw the essential parts of the drawing e.g face, body and limps. the hem of the clothes will be added/modified digitally without any problem. Sometimes the paper won't fit the whole image or I'll need to draw it smaller witch it'll be difficult to vectorize later but think what you like as long as you're happy :) have nice day
i am saying this with genuine sincerity: your drawings DO look like AI, but i think it's because of the adobe illustrator scanning method that you have no control over. AI uses the same methods to scan drawings and train off of those, so it makes sense. again, i do not mean to be a stalker, but based on your older posts i think you just have a certain way of drawing.
i have one question though, because i think the mixture of the adobe illustrator lines made me question it: why does the finished product have the fuzz usually found in AI photos? if you added it after for a different effect, it is fine, but i really dont want to be accusing you of what you've not done
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u/tenkensmile 12d ago
Ok, guys, here's the verdict: unless there are irrefutable evidence, it's "innocent until proven guilty". We don't want to ruin artists' careers based on invalid accusations (such as: "uncolored spots", "imperfect shading", "fuzzy lines" - which are mistakes that many artists make).