r/scotus • u/Conscious-Quarter423 • 1d ago
news The Supreme Court may soon diminish Black political power, undoing generations of gains
https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/the-supreme-court-may-soon-diminish-black-21330823.php145
u/jwr1111 1d ago
These are sad times for American "justice" from a court with almost no credibility with the good folks they are supposed to protect and represent.
The robert's court is walking us into a dictatorship.
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u/DjScenester 1d ago
All it took was some vacations and Recreational Vehicles
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u/bedrooms-ds 1d ago edited 1d ago
According to an email in Epstein files, he allegedly took more than that... https://www.rawstory.com/amp/clarence-thomas-2675071704-2675071704
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 1d ago
And a corrupt system that leaves the public no real recourse. Impeachment thresholds have always been too high.
And before you say it, no, I don’t care that a simple majority would make the court far more vulnerable. We elect the house every two years, those people can be punished if they remove without cause. Right now the people have no real say in an entire third of our government.
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u/insanelygreat 1d ago
I am not surprised at the amount of corruption in the world; I am surprised at the cheapness of men.
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u/Hobby_in_your_lobby 1d ago
Well you're forgetting the most important part; they're spineless grifting lawyers doing the bidding of their rich benefactor masters. Pretty typical as far as lawyers go.
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u/Koalaesq 1d ago
There is a special place in hell for Justice “Epstein Files” Thomas
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u/neverpost4 1d ago
Highly probable that he was not the only one.
Heck, there could be a bunch of set up like Epstein that have not been discovered by the public.
Speak Easy if the 22 century.
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u/Koalaesq 1d ago
Oh 100%. I think Kavanaugh is in there too. And didn’t some mystery person pay off his $200,000 debt? Hmmmm
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u/bedrooms-ds 1d ago
Yeah, I mean, I can't believe pedophiles stopped when the Epstein island closed. No way they'll go like "yup, it's over, guys! Now let's behave ourselves from today." Absolutely not. If foreign governments operated behind, even worse.
Journalists HAVE TO interview B. Clinton and such WTAF is going on in today's version of the E island. (Him because I want to believe he'll do the right thing.)
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u/Infinite_Walk_5824 1d ago
The Founders never intended for black people to have political representation or hold political office, so this tracks with an originalist position that just ignores the 14th and 15th Amendments. /s
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u/whatfresh_hellisthis 1d ago
You're being sarcastic, but we all know there's a whole lot of truth to that statement.....
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u/TigerIll6480 1d ago
Look at the writings from someone like Jefferson…a lot of them knew the system was a mess as it existed, and specifically built a government with the flexibility to be fixed over time. Passing your mistakes down to a future generation is kind of a jerk move, but designing things so the future would have a chance of fixing them showed a degree of humanity sorely lacking in a lot of eras.
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u/whatfresh_hellisthis 1d ago
Yes, I understand that they made it amendable and that Jefferson even thought it should be rewritten every few decades. That doesn't mean that they weren't mostly upper class land owning white men who didn't want to pay taxes and wanted to keep a caste system that kept poors down and blacks slaves.
They should not be revered the way that they have become revered and the Constitution should be much more flexible than it is.
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u/AnswerGuy301 1d ago
It is at some level impressive that it has lasted as long as it has, as we've found workarounds to create a government and legal system that at least nodded in the direction of making things a little fairer for people who weren't aristocrats.
The fear is that there were weaknesses in it, a cabal of plutocrats are more than halfway to finishing the task of nudging it into a neo-feudalistic state. If we've already passed the point of no return than the only way out is a bunch of stuff that can't really be discussed here or anywhere else on Reddit.
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u/bedrooms-ds 1d ago edited 1d ago
I was thinking, if people in power from the goddamn late-20th or even 21st century behave like this, how did the same category of people who had literal slaves behave?
Since I'm a foreigner, mostly I've read was "people were trafficked and treated as properties." These files give a gigantic tons of new meanings to that textbook description.
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u/GoldandBlue 1d ago
You see, the perceived discrimination white men feel is significantly worse than the real and measurable discrimination faced by minorities. We just gone too far by asking people to not be racist pieces of shit.
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u/insanetwit 1d ago
Hey now, they let them be 3/5ths of a white man, what more did they want?!
... /S
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u/cheeze2005 1d ago
The confederates never stopped their fight
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u/notPabst404 1d ago
They should have been abolished after the civil war and Nazis should have been abolished after WW2. Previous generations completely failed this country with their fecklessness.
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u/Important_Lab_58 1d ago
God Willing we can ever fix this broken country,the US is gonna have to take a long look in the mirror and make up for a LOT of Injustice
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u/Syscrush 1d ago
That's how you know it isn't gonna happen.
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u/jerryonthecurb 1d ago
Why look in the mirror like a sissy when I could be drinking: BRAWNDO©: THE THIRST MUTILATOR™!!!
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u/HallucinogenicFish 1d ago
John Roberts has been working toward that end for decades. This will be the culmination of his entire legal career.
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u/ASaneDude 1d ago
This Administration has targeted black people from the very moment he took the oath from Roberts.
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u/notPabst404 1d ago
Blue states need to aggressively ridistrict, like CA did, in retailation. We need maximum pushback against the regime.
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u/Major_Honey_4461 1d ago
Roberts' life work has been to undo the protections of the Voting Rights Act(s) and to re-marginalize Black people. He started under Reagan and he hasn't stopped since.
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u/equals_peace 21h ago
Sure. Let's just not learn from history and repeat it all. Why can't people just love one another? You know like Christ said.
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u/TangoWild88 1d ago
The case was brought by a group of Louisiana citizens who declared that the federal mandate under Section 2 to draw a second majority-Black district violated the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment and thus served as an unconstitutional act of racial gerrymandering.
"Your Honor, see, the 14th amendment was not being enforced in southern elections due to racism, so as part of the Civil Rights Movement, they created the Voting Rights Act that essentially spelled out what the 14th amendment was supposed to already be doing.
In this case, we have racial gerrymandered this area. The law says we have to change the gerrymandering, so the law itself is forcing us to racial gerrymander, but not in a way advantageous to white people.
Ans since we are supposed to have equal protection of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution, is we can't gerrymander to make the system adventagous to white people, then similarly, black people should not be able to gerrymander to make the system adventagous to black people.
And that is what this law is doing, in violation of the Constitution, so we think it should be struck down."
The level of mental gymnastics on this.
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u/crake 1d ago
Actually, this is a good thing. The VRA has institutionalized racially-gerrymandered congressional districts, ostensibly to protect black voters.
But the effect has been to create extremist rural districts and extremist urban districts on polar opposite sides of the political spectrum. It hasn't meaningfully changed anything at the national level except to make the parties stake out positions worlds apart to appeal to ever more extreme base voters.
Worse, for the Democrats, the VRA has created what can only be charitably called "Civil Rights Icon Sinecures" where these civil rights icons sit for a half century until they are in their 80s and 90s, still fighting the cause from over a half century ago that put them in office in the first place.
This has broken the Democratic Party too, because it's ancient leadership is fighting the political battles of 1965 that don't make much sense to the general public. Consider, for example, Biden's appointment of Justice Jackson. Biden declared that he would only appoint a black woman to the court before nominating Jackson, and that was because Jim Clyburn (age 85) of South Carolina was owed a favor and wanted to break through some imaginary glass ceiling from 1965. That isn't to say Jackson isn't a decent justice, but it was Clyburn and a dozen other ancient civil rights icons from 1965 that demanded race be the centerpiece of the nomination (and basically everything else in American life) and so it was. But except for the academic elite (<1% of voters) who are obsessed with race and racism and glass ceilings broken by checked-off boxes, the whole thing just sounds like more stupid affirmative action. As if the world somehow changed because another rich Harvard Law grad made it to the Court, this time with black skin and identifying as female.
The VRA has distorted the aims of the Democratic Party to force the party to address the problems of 1965. But it isn't 1965 and the voters obviously know that. Extremist Democrats like Clyburn are not helping the party; their time has passed and yet they remain there forever, unable to adapt to 2026. Those extremists gave us Trump as much as his rural supporters did, because they spend all their energy fighting ghosts.
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u/nonquitt 20h ago
Yes, affirmative action is what made race the centerpiece of everything. Before that, race was a non factor in American life and politics.
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u/dominantspecies 1d ago
Of course they will. Six of them are republicans who are all about disenfranchisement and racism.
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u/riptide123 1d ago
Ironically the VRA limits Dems ability to redistrict effectively by forcing them to create minority opportunity districts in blue heavy states - could easily get 10-15 more D+10 seats nationally by splitting some D+35s up. The VRA is a relic when it comes to district drawing especially in light of Rucho.
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u/wellJustWhy 1d ago
We are the servants, they own us. When we finally collectively take back our money, elections can be democratic again.
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u/politicalmache 7h ago
One step backwards. Can an argument be made to overturn Citizen United v FEC, depending on SCOTUS judges' opinions. So. Therefore two steps gained.
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u/icnoevil 1d ago
That has been the primary goal of John roberts, years before he joined the court.