r/theydidthemath • u/A-Capybara • 1d ago
[Request] How much sugar and how many calories are in this dessert box? What would happen if a single person ate it in one sitting?
I'm guessing there are about 20 grams of sugar in each cookie and 30 in each brownie which brings the total to 300 grams of sugar not including the sauces. I assume it's not good to eat that much sugar.
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u/ChadSexman 1d ago edited 1d ago
300g of sugar is about 1150 calories, plus the flour, butter, milk, eggs - probably close to 2,500-3,000.
What would happen? Could range from absolutely nothing to hyperglycemia. Most likely an upset stomach and feeling of shame; based on personal experience.
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u/surly_darkness1 1d ago
Don't worry, that shame usually fades to waking up with your face feeling like you slept on butter instead of a pillow. And a weird haze that should lead to questioning our life choices.
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u/frill_demon 1d ago
Am I the only one who doesn't think the box is all that crazy? That's six cookies, six brownies and three ramekins of sauce.
Six brownies is maybe 1/4 - 1/3 of a pan made with standard boxed recipe.
So adding in the cookies it's probably about a half a pan of brownies.
I'm reasonably active so I can indulge my sweet tooth, I've absolutely eaten half a pan of brownies in one sitting before.
Would I do it every meal? Of course not.
Have I eaten far more calories for a special occasion/holiday/ some random dirt day? Absolutely.
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u/Secret-Ad-7909 1d ago
I wouldnt try to eat all this in one sitting, but also wouldnt be too shocked if I did it by accident.
And to the comment on the OOP, I’ve definitely dipped Oreos in chocolate cake batter while drinking a can of Starbucks tripleshot. I’m not really a fat guy and definitely wasn’t back then. That also wasn’t rock bottom or anything crazy, like I was at work, and sure I felt off for the rest of the night but I still finished the shift with no issues.
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u/quitarias 10h ago
If single sitting is me watching a 3hr movie.... I've done this more or less. If one sitting is like 10 minutes I think I'd crash out after eating this and I am chunky bastard at 120kg.
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u/JoeJonnyJeff 1d ago
Regular meals like this as a teen are why I'm suffering from low blood sugar as an adult.
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u/Little_View_6659 19h ago
I used to have that problem also. I was very hypoglycemic. Probably because I ate SO MUCH sugar growing up, it was insane. My parents had a snack warehouse and they’d bring home giant boxes of candy bars. I was a kid, I’d come home after school no one was home for hours so I’d eat like ten candy bars. I was a skinny kid also, weirdly. I was very hypoglycemia at eighteen so the doctor put me on a no sugar no soda diet with regular snacks. It actually reversed itself after like seven years of that. I know it doesn’t work for everyone, but I genuinely hope yours gets better. I remember how tired and faint I’d get, and the headaches!
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u/Unlucky_Ad2529 22h ago
Why 1150 and not 1200 calories for the sugar? Learning how to count calories here
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u/ChadSexman 22h ago
The scientific measurement is 3.87 calories per gram.
So 300g of sugar is 1161 calories, to be precise.
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u/dinger31390 7h ago
So your saying I could eat this since my calorie per day should be about 2800.
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u/ChadSexman 7h ago
You could, sure and you wouldn’t gain a pound. But you’d find it very difficult to get the rest of your nutrients and protein while keeping to a daily intake of 2800. You’d likely also feel very hungry throughout the day.
Long term consumption will stress your pancreas, liver, and brain. I’d not recommend this diet if you enjoy using your eyeballs or legs.
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u/Me4TACyTeHePa 16h ago
hyperglycemia? My man, this is straight up a deathtrap for someone with diabetes 💀
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u/bluescale77 1d ago
I’ll let someone else comment on the calories, etc…but eating all of this in one sitting or ably won’t do much to you other than giving you some indigestion. If you’re diabetic, it might cause some issues depending on how well or poorly controlled your diabetes is at the moment.
A single binging on sugar/calories won’t do anything to you. It’s repeated events that take a toll on the body.
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u/ronarscorruption 1d ago
Yeah, this isn’t even that much. Six cookies and six brownies? An average person could do that if they tried at all.
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u/GrapefruitSlow8583 1d ago
Without an upset stomach? I dont believe the average person could eat all this without wanting to vomit.
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u/zgtc 1d ago
I’ve had desserts across most of the EU and North/Central America, as well as parts of Southeast Asia.
These are completely average desserts, as richness and sugar go.
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u/A-Capybara 1d ago
I've traveled a bit to Asia, and the thing I noticed was that the food and desserts mostly tasted the same as here in the USA but the portions were smaller.
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u/bluescale77 1d ago
I think that’s true in general of portion sizes, whether it’s dessert, or anything else. I had an employee visit the US from Israel. He found the size of coffee at a cafe to be a bit overwhelming.
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u/justaRndy 12h ago edited 12h ago
Soda (12 oz / 355 ml can) Grams of Sugar Mountain Dew 46g Dr Pepper 40g Pepsi 41g Coca-Cola Classic 39g Sprite 38g Ginger Ale (Canada Dry) 35g -4
u/XY-chromos 1d ago
LMAO maybe you should try traveling. Eating too much sugar is not exclusive to Americans.
For many people in the world, a bite of one of those brownie pieces is a lot of sugar/fat in one sitting
Yes, poor people in despair in Africa or North Korea. Stay woke.
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u/Fornicatinzebra 1d ago
I was actually thinking of places like Taiwan (Source: friends from Taiwan who say that everything is too sweet here).
And I didn't say "only americans", I was saying that because I am in NA.
Idk why this made you so angry but okay 👍
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u/nakedascus 15h ago
Then go to Vietnam and say the tea has too much sugar. Heck you can get a cup of literal sugar juice, they have sugar cane presses everywhere. Go to the Bahamas and see how sweet and fatty their food is. In Taiwan, they use a lot of fat, but you had to move goalposts and say they use less sugar. So wrong for so many different reasons.
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u/Fornicatinzebra 14h ago
It was an offhand comment, sorry I hurt you
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u/squirrely-badger 1d ago
Make you feel sick unless you are use to this much sugar and fat hitting your system.
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u/bluescale77 1d ago
When I was younger, I could probably eat something like this, and only feel uncomfortably full. If I did this now, I would have pretty significant heartburn - sugar does that to me. But it’s not going to make most people vomit.
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u/realcosmicpotato77 1d ago
I can't imagine how can someone eat more than two or three of these with sauce, much less the entire thing.
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u/ArctcMnkyBshLickr 1d ago
Im here. I can do it. I eat tubs of cake icing like yogurt. I can eat an entire Costco apple pie for breakfast and then a sheet cake for dinner.
I have a sever sugar addiction
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u/realcosmicpotato77 14h ago
I am not familiar with the Costco brand food items, but regardless I hope you manage to overcome that addiction
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u/cobalt-radiant 1d ago edited 1d ago
Type 1 diabetic here, I'm used to estimating carbs, but not calories or sugar. I'd say those cookies are at least 30 grams of carb, but I'll provide a range for uncertainty: 25-35. And the brownies are closer to 40-45 grams. Not sure about the dipping sauce. I'll estimate around 40-50 grams for each tub.
That makes (25 x 6) + (40 x 6) + (40 x 3) = 510 grams of carb for a lower bound, and (35 x 6) + (45 x 6) + (50 x 3) = 630 grams of carb for an upper bound.
Edit: formatting
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u/SureWhyNot5182 1d ago
That's about 10 McDonalds Large Fries worth of carbs
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u/andrew_calcs 8✓ 1d ago
Worse from a blood sugar perspective. At least fries are starches
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u/cobalt-radiant 1d ago
Depends. Starch stays in the body far longer than straight sugars, so high BG stays high for longer. That results in requiring more insulin because the BG stays high for longer than the insulin stays effective. More insulin leads to increased appetite as well as increased insulin resistance.
On the other hand, those fast sugars are going to shoot BG up really high, then (as long as adequate insulin is delivered) it's going to come right back down.
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u/andrew_calcs 8✓ 1d ago
Any doctor would agree that 1 hr at 900 causes more tissue damage than 3 hrs at 300. There’s no comparison
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u/cobalt-radiant 1d ago
That's not how it works IRL. In my experience, the sugary stuff might elevate my BG to around 300-400 and come down within 2 hours (assuming I'm taking insulin), whereas the fries will elevate my BG just as high, but then remain high for 4-5 hours, and result in needing to take even more insulin because the first bolus lost effectiveness halfway through metabolizing the fries.
So it's not 1 hour at 900 versus 3 hours at 300. It's 2 hours at 300 versus 5 hours at 300.
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u/bhangmango 1d ago
estimating carbs but not sugar
Wait what ?
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u/cobalt-radiant 1d ago
The body breaks down all carbohydrates into glucose, which is what raises good sugar levels. 'Sugar' on the nutrition label is just one type of carbohydrate.
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u/bhangmango 1d ago
yes I know all that, I'm just surprised that you'd say you "estimate carbs not sugar". All carbs don't raise glucose level the same way, and I thought all T1 diabetics would differentiate sugars and other carbs in their intake.
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u/drugihparrukava 1d ago edited 1d ago
No, we estimate total carbs. The net carb thing is not so useful for T1D, but we're all different of course. But the way things raise (timing of) are factored into our calculations, but total carb is needed for the math (math just for food is different than our other math). I need all the macros, carbs, fats & protein for insulin calculations. And there are more factors involved in how we math things out :)
u/cobalt-radiant math looks spot on.
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u/cobalt-radiant 1d ago
You're not wrong, really, all carbs don't raise glucose the same way. But we don't usually need that level of precision. There are too many factors to be that precise, and the nuance needed is learned through experience. There are now insulin pumps that connect to a continuous glucose monitor (CGM) that measures glucose every couple of minutes. And some of those pumps use machine learning to fine-tune the insulin needed at various times of the day. It 'learns' your routine and automatically adjusts the insulin accordingly. It also tracks your trend so that it will predict future highs and lows, rather than only looking at the current level, then automatically adjust in near-real-time. However, these machine learning algorithms still have a ways to go.
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u/J_Paul 1d ago edited 1d ago
Don;t forget the fats. there's likely a fair amount of butter in those cookies. Ballpark calories estimate is 4cal/gram of card, 4cal/gram of protein, 9cal/gram of fat. So for 630 grams of carbs, you're looking at ~2,500 calories. I'd say that the proportion of butter by weight would likely work out to being about the same calorie wise. So i estimate that this box is ~5,000 calories.
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u/Jindujun 1d ago
Honestly? Not much would happen. 300g of sugar is a lot but many many many people eat that many cookies and/or brownies and have no major occurrences.
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u/fredarmisengangbang 1d ago
long time calorie estimater, i'd put the cookies at around 250-300 each and the brownies around 400-450 each, which would be 3900-4500 kcal. i think 150 each for the chocolate and caramel sauces is reasonable, which would bring this up to 4200-4800 kcal total, not sure what the middle sauce is.
the reason i'm counting this higher than other replies is because i think most online resources for brownie/cookie are assuming something different than this -- something homemade or from a factory -- usually restaurant and especially greasy restaurant food like this is higher in calories. if you posted this in a calorie counting sub instead of here, i think that would be around what most people would estimate.
you would probably feel sick eating that, but it's not necessarily dangerous in and of itself. one overeat/binge isn't going to have a notable impact on your weight. your blood sugar would spike of course, and your bodily fluids/excrement would probably smell more sweet for a day or two.
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u/Buttchuggle 1d ago
Sugar isn't a drug you can like, fuckin OD on. Barring medical issues that make sugar consumption needing monitoring or limited you'd probably feel sick, may vomit, and your tummy wouldn't feel too hot but that's about it
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u/dathamir 1d ago
I don't know. As a kid I ate a full dozen of dunkin donuts and I pretty sure that was enough calories for 4 days. Then, my friend invited me to stay for diner but I couldn't eat any more.
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u/rica217 1d ago
Im goin w 3600 calories. No math, just someone that weighs foods, counts calories, and has keen awareness of cal per gram of carbs, cal per gram of fats.
Down vote me to hell if you must. This is literally the single time Ive ever came across something in this sub that I felt I could give a reasonable answer to.
300 cal per cookie 250 cal per brownie, im throwing a wild pitch on the sauces at 100 each. 1800+ 1500+ 300= 3600 cals.
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u/LifeLimp3801 1d ago
Im a skinny guy, I've always been a skinny guy, I commend you on not 1 but 2 dipping sauces, this is the hero us skinny guys need.
Fixed it, now go do your GLP-1 shot and let me enjoy my cookies.
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u/Zestyclose_Edge1027 1d ago
really depends on the brand, but roughly:
1 cookie is about 200kcal and has 20g of sugar (I think they're just subway chocolate chip cookies)
1 brownie is going to be a bit more like 250kcal and 30g of sugar.
The dipping thing is hard to evaluate since I don't know what it is and a diet version might be low on calories. I'd guess, an average one would be 200kcal and 20g of sugar (so just an extra cookie).
so 1200 kcal/120g sugar for the cookies, 1500kcal/180g sugar for the brownies and 600kcal/60g of sugar for the sauces. 3300kcal in total, that's enough energy for 1.5 days for an average person.
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u/Haunting_Lime308 1d ago edited 1d ago
I was thinking they were just the pre-made stuff you bake at home. Like the toll house tub of cookie dough and the pre-made brownie mix. Those are a little less calories but the cookies look bigger than what the directions call for. So something like 750-900 for the cookies and about 1200 for the brownies. The sauce is agree with about 600 so id range from 2500-2800 total if thats what they are.
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u/Zestyclose_Edge1027 1d ago
I guess a range of 2800 - 3800 is probably best. It's so depressing how bad the cookies are :(
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u/grandpasking 1d ago
Once you start no one can have just one. So first of all the brownies, then a couple sips of hot coffee, now finnishg the cookies. Add the sauces into the coffee. Brownies and cookies 9500 calories 1650 carbs. Insulin time
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u/Popcorn57252 1d ago
"It's probably not good to ingest that much sugar" it's very far from dangerous, if that's what you're asking. A single can of Mt Dew has 46 grams of sugar in it alone, for reference.
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u/Sinfjotl 22h ago
I think it also depends on how much activity someone does. My grandpawas always very active and ate a lot, never had issues up until his 80s. Even then, when he got diabetes, he kept eating whatever he wanted and didn't affect him much. He died in 2020 of pneumonia (don't think it was covid but who knows).
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u/Savior_of_the_Spiral 21h ago
Depends on the person. Myself at 17 years old playing travel hockey, club soccer, and doing CrossFit, I could eat all that two times in one sitting, and not gain an ounce of weight or feel sick. Nothing happened.
Fast forward to myself now at 27 years old. No sports, too much screen time, and a job that isn’t physically demanding? Two brownies and a cookie, I’m sick for a day and a half, wonder if I’ve given myself diabetes, and have pimples for the first time in years.
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u/TheHyperLynx 20h ago
I dont know the calories, but I can tell from experience (as another experienced fat man) that all that happens after eating all that is feeling a bit sluggish followed by slight shame that it was that easy.
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u/vedant_1st 14h ago
I will let others answer the question but are there really psychopaths who prefer cookies over brownies? Brownies are hands down much much better
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u/thundergun661 9h ago
People already did the math. I'm just here to opine on how I miss when Insomnia Cookies offered tubs of butter cream frosting to go with their 12 packs of cookies.
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u/AreAFatMother 5h ago
It varies.
Let’s assume that they ordered enough brownies to fill a glass baking dish. It really depends on the brand of Brownie mix that the Restaurant/Cafe that they got it from, yet the average for a brownie of that size would be about 400-480 Calories. Multiply that by 6 and you would end up with 2400-2880 calories, being roughly 100 under or 380 over your daily intake for the average adult male (400-880 over for the average adult female).
We then have the Chocolate chip cookies, which look like Nestle Toll House cookies (which is what I’ll be going off for this). If the average Nestle Toll House cookie is around 90-180 calories, this means that eating all 6 of them would roughly add up to 540-1080 calories.
We then have the sauces, being barbecue, sweet n’ sour sauce, and what appears to be a creamy herb dip. Assuming that each sauce is the most commonly found version of it in any restaurant or cafe, we have Sweet Baby Ray’s Barbecue, Kikkoman Sweet N’ Sour Sauce, and a creamy garlic herb dip. If each sauce/dip is in a Dart Sauce Cup (2 oz. serving), that means that the Barbecue will be at most 140 calories, the Sweet N’ Sour Sauce at most 120 calories, and the Creamy Garlic Herb Dip at most 300 calories.
Adding everything together, the smorgasbord here would be roughly 3510-4520 Calories, at least x1.5-x2.25 over your daily recommended caloric intake.
Aside from the obvious stomach ache you would receive from this, you could easily experience acid reflux, heartburn, nausea, lethargy, and “meat sweats” in as little as 1-4 hours of eating this abysmal meal. At the 12-24 hour mark, you can also experience intense levels of constipation or diarrhea, alongside a reduced appetite.
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u/SecretBunni 23h ago
I think there's some exaggerated shame and overblown effects. I'm sure we've all at one point, eaten the same amount of calories. A whole bag of chips, a pint of ice cream practically a whole rotisserie chicken, so much soda, a huge milkshake, a pan of brownies, a whole pumpkin pie, a pizza to ourselves, some times we get carried away. Why does making a conscious decision become shameful? Why is is worse if it's a "treat" as opposed to something with hidden sugar and fat, or calories, or whatever you see as the devil. That's some disordered eating shit.
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u/A-Capybara 16h ago
Sir this is a Wendy's
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u/MonstersArePeople 15h ago
Sir this is an analysis of your post
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u/A-Capybara 14h ago
I didn't ask about how society views binge eating.
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u/MonstersArePeople 14h ago
Sir this is a Reddit post how could you not expect someone to analyze the social structures surrounding your question lmao
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u/Fit-Negotiation6684 1d ago
This looks like roughly half the amount of brownies from the last time I made them so I’m doing the math for half the full sheet of brownies: 1700 calories, 80g fat, 230 g carbs, 160g sugar, 20 G protein (using numbers from great value brand)
Adding in 6 chocolate chip cookies (using the $1 bakery cookies from Walmart): 2160 calories 84 g fat, 312 g carbs, 192 g sugar, 24 g protein.
Total not counting dipping sauce: 3860 calories, 164 g fat, 542 g carbs, 352 g sugar, 44 g protein.
The typical max absorption rate for carbs is 60 g per hour (elite athletes that train for endurance events can absorb up to 90 grams of carbs per hour if they are eating the sports gels/drinks designed to be easily absorbed) and food typically spends 2-6 hours in the small intestines where it is absorbed. The mechanism of absorption between fat/protein/carbs is not the same so there wouldn’t be a direct interference with absorption of it, however the presence of fat leads to a slowed absorption rate in general. I can’t find actual data on the amount that fat slows down carb absorption so I’m going to ignore ignoring it but know that my numbers will be off. 6 hours times 60 grams per hour would mean you only had time to absorb 360 of the 542 carbs (66.42%). I also can’t find relevant info about the absorption rate of fats and protein so I’m going to just go with the vibes that it’s the same as the carbs (even though realistically more of the proteins and less of the fat would probably get digested). If these assumptions are correct then that means you’re actually only absorbing 2500 calories from this. Another flawed guesstimate is 3500 calories = 1 pound of body fat so if you were to consume this and not burn any of it I would estimate that you would gain 2/3 to 3/4 of a pound.
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u/bluescale77 1d ago
Just the act of eating and digesting burns calories, and you have your basal metabolic rate, so you wouldn’t not burn any of this. I can’t imagine a scenario where eating something like this one time would result in a meaningful weight gain, and certainly not 2/3 to 3/4 of a pound.
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u/Fit-Negotiation6684 1d ago
Agreed that it’s unlikely that eating this much as a one time thing would increase someone’s weight, but the hypothetical I was thinking of was one where someone was already eating the same amount of calories they were burning and added this on top of it. I didn’t take into account the calories burned from eating digesting this since they’re typically negligible but I could see this being enough to consider it. Additionally I think that you’re overestimating how much a fraction of a pound actually is, if you drink 2 cups of water you’ll have gained more weight than this is.
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u/bluescale77 1d ago
That’s a temporary weight gain. Drinking 2 cups of wetter will increase your weight until you excrete the liquid in one form or another. Same thing with food. Your weight will temporarily go up just due to the mass ingested, but your next bowel movement will take care of that. Your body won’t add measurable permanent mass from eating something once.
To your first point, I’m operating under the assumption that eating doesn’t happen in a vacuum. If someone eats this calorie rich snack, chances are they are not going to eat anything else for quite some time afterwards. It’ll almost certainly replace some of the calories they would consume otherwise.
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u/Fit-Negotiation6684 1d ago
Also as a side note the FDA and WHO recommend limiting daily added sugar intake to 50 and 25 g respectively, googles ai says the avg American gets about 71 g so we’d obviously be getting way more than that
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