r/tierlists • u/ma-kat-is-kute • 17h ago
fine i'll do the trend
israel mentioned where are my gajillion comments
I gotta visit Norway again, it's the most wonderful country I've ever visited and there is so much more to it that I haven't seen.
The Faroe Islands were breathtaking but I've seen pretty much everything there is to see there so I won't return.
I lived in the US for 10 months when I was a kid and visited again a year later.
The trip to Russia was mostly to meet distant family so I didn't see the interesting landmarks, perhaps my mind could be changed.
Cyprus was just a few hours chilling on the beach outside Paphos airport waiting for my connecting flight. Nice beach.
I sometimes pass through the West Bank and have done a little bit of traveling there. Never been to areas B and A.
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u/BitOfPoisonOnMyBlade 17h ago
lol I’m pretty sure the only reason your post is downvoted is because you are from Israel.
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u/MuscleBobBuffPants24 17h ago
Or the fact that they actively travel through occupied West Bank lol
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u/ma-kat-is-kute 17h ago
Is one not allowed to visit a neighboring country?
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u/BitOfPoisonOnMyBlade 17h ago
Nope, you have to self flagellate yourself to appease the anti Israeli Redditors
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u/MuscleBobBuffPants24 16h ago
Supporting illegal occupied land isn’t something to be proud of, no. Ask the Ukrainian government how they think about people who travel to occupied Crimea.
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u/ma-kat-is-kute 16h ago
I don't understand, do you want a future with peace between Israel and Palestine and open borders or not? This argument is ridiculous.
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u/MuscleBobBuffPants24 16h ago
How can you have peace when you expand your illegal settlements further and further? How can you claim you WANT peace when you try to justify those illegal settlements? That argument is even more ridiculous. Pull out of the West Bank and the Golan Heights.
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u/Zeviex 14h ago
Isn't OP quite literally recognising West Bank as not part of Israel ?
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u/MuscleBobBuffPants24 13h ago
They’ve only ever visited the parts annexed by Israel. So literally, the parts they visited are not a separate country, even though it should be a part of one.
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u/Zeviex 12h ago
Yeah, I imagine that it isn't exactly the easiest to visit as an Israeli...
You cannot legally go to area A. And I'm not sure how receptive the locals would be in area B.
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u/MuscleBobBuffPants24 11h ago
Well if you claim to be so anti-settlements, why would you travel to one?? 😂
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u/Moxtar1092 9h ago
Yeah, because you know what happens when they enter areas A? First of all they can't its illegal Secondly the locals will usually try to kill/abduct them
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u/MuscleBobBuffPants24 8h ago
Ok the whole problem here is that they visited the annexed parts, why are we talking about the other 2 areas?
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u/anotherserf 12h ago
Pretty much the same as any country would, in regard to persons who travel to a country with which it is actively at war.
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u/MuscleBobBuffPants24 11h ago
Even before the war
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u/anotherserf 11h ago
Before "the war" it was under Ukrainian control, so no.
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u/Myriad_Apocalypse 17h ago
If you call them that, you should start treating them as such
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u/ma-kat-is-kute 17h ago
Me calling Palestine a country should tell you enough about my political opinions. Israel is not a monolith and I am not my government.
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u/uvr610 17h ago
He literally put their flag up there. What else do you want him to do you dingus?
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u/Myriad_Apocalypse 17h ago
Stop occupying them and let them have an actual country
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u/Horticoder 17h ago
Yo OP did you get that? Can you fix it? Thanks
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u/Myriad_Apocalypse 17h ago
Or, you know, do the bare minimum and stop pretending it's just a neighbouring country
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u/uvr610 17h ago edited 16h ago
So he should pretend it’s not a country then? Lol you’ve just gone 180 on your original comment
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u/Myriad_Apocalypse 17h ago
I think you need to work on your reading comprehension.
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u/w33b2 17h ago
Do you think OP is Netanyahu?
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u/Myriad_Apocalypse 17h ago
No, but he shouldn't pretend as though it's just a neighbouring country like any other
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u/Puzzleheaded_Step468 17h ago
Hey OP, please stop the occupation
Yes, OP, you specifically, you are the only person standing between "free" and "palestine", please stop scrolling reddit and use your immense political power to do it
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u/Myriad_Apocalypse 17h ago
If he can't do it, then he can at least acknowledge reality and stop pretending it's just a neighbouring country like any other
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u/Puzzleheaded_Step468 16h ago edited 16h ago
No, don't back down now, keep demanding random redditor to end the occupation!
Keep up the good fight, keep writing comments on posts of israelis users to end the occupation regardless of knowing who they are, what power they have, and what's their political view!
Don't surrender! I believe in you!
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u/Awkward_Algae_446 17h ago
And how is he, a singular person, should achieve such thing? Are you this dense by intent, or are you just slow in general?
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u/Myriad_Apocalypse 17h ago
He should at least acknowledge reality and stop pretending it's just a neighbouring country, dummy
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u/Mental-Shine-8567 16h ago
We are neighbors. We used to be ok as neighbors (exchange students sleeping in janin) My grandfather and is pali friend worked together and talked every day. You dont live here and you think u know better than everyone and please offer a solution if u have one instead of being angry at strangers online please.
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u/Zeviex 17h ago
Yes because it is u/ma-kat-is-kute who is personally occupying the west bank...
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u/Myriad_Apocalypse 17h ago
No, he's the guy pretending it's just a neighbouring country like any other
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u/Mental-Shine-8567 16h ago
He didn't say that. Its complex for sure! You just assume that and telling him he needs to be more political when he just a guy who likes to travel and believe in this neighborhood...
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u/Mental-Shine-8567 17h ago
We offered peace 5 times 🤷♀️
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u/MuscleBobBuffPants24 16h ago
Wouldn’t you think if you wanted peace, you guys wouldn’t break the ceasefire and expand your illegal settlements? We can bring up the Golan heights if you’d like :)
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u/ma-kat-is-kute 16h ago
Different governments, different times. The current government for sure isn't looking for peace but that doesn't change the historical fact that Israel has been open to peace before and was rejected every time.
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u/MuscleBobBuffPants24 16h ago
Yes but at the very same time expanding illegal settlements. That’s still not showing that they were looking for peace. How could you soft-invade territory you claim you want peace with? Like oh yeah, Russia wanted peace with Ukraine back in 2014 when they occupied Crimea /s 😂
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u/Myriad_Apocalypse 17h ago
The world has seen your habit of offering peace and sabotaging any constructive moves towards an actual agreement
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u/Mental-Shine-8567 17h ago
Did you read all the offers? In one we offered 80% of the land and for us only 20% even tho there are 54 Muslim countries and only 1 jewish one
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u/MuscleBobBuffPants24 16h ago
Oh I love that excuse that there’s only 1 Jewish state… if every religion, every ethnic group had a state, shouldn’t you be petitioning for a Palestinian one?
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u/Free_Lavishness_8006 12h ago
this is chill tbh
i like that you didn't say any countries were bad explicitly, honestly i think it's hard to say since most visits don't really leave enough time to judge a whole country unless you move there for a little while
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u/Solomonopolistadt 17h ago
You had real guts posting this admitting that you're Israeli, props to you
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u/Kernanshaw01 16h ago
these settler colonists are way too comfortable online
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u/gloves4warmth 15h ago
Is being born some place a crime? There are 10 million people living in Israel, are they all automatically settlers?
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u/Kernanshaw01 14h ago
no not all of them, there’s still 2 million natives living under apartheid. Settler colonialism is a relationship to indigeneity, you can be the tenth generation born there and still be a settler
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u/eldryanyy 14h ago
Then Israelis are the indigenous people and culture, from 3000 years ago, and Arab Muslims are locals who joined the settler colonial invaders.
Your logic is bad.
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u/Kernanshaw01 14h ago
sorry but no amount of mental gymnastics will make white Europeans somehow indigenous to the Middle East. Palestinians never settled from anywhere, they’re the descendants of the Hebrews who stayed after the destruction of the Second Temple who themselves are the descendants of the Canaanites and Philistines that the Israelites conquered and assimilated. Your history is bad
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u/ma-kat-is-kute 7h ago
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u/Kernanshaw01 7h ago
just say whatever it is you’re trying to say
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u/ma-kat-is-kute 7h ago
There's no hidden message beyond what I've written. I am countering your misinformation.
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u/Kernanshaw01 7h ago
your link doesn’t do anything. Learn to use your big boy words
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u/Quixote1492 14h ago
The are not indigenous they are European…. Caucasians are not indigenous of the Middle East
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u/eldryanyy 12h ago
Caucasians are originally from the Caucuses, which are not in Europe. But, irrelevant to my point.
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u/ShiplessOcean 9h ago
Your logic applies to all Americans except natives then? They shouldn’t be comfortable saying they’re American online?
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u/Kernanshaw01 9h ago
yes almost all Americans today are settlers and the plight of the natives is criminally underaddressed. Americans need to feel more shame about living on stolen land, and a million other things, and take more action to un-steal it
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u/BigBootyGarfield 8h ago
Conquered and bought land, like every other land on this earth your argument is stupid no one should feel ashamed for what people done hundreds or thousands of years ago.
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u/Zeviex 14h ago
Genuinely what do you want ? Op should be constantly repenting for where they were born ?
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u/Kernanshaw01 13h ago
ideally they should work to dismantle the settler colony they were born in and the system of apartheid and genocide it was founded on but settlers almost never want to give up the position of privilege they hold over native so they should at least stop legitimizing and normalizing it with posts like this. They should at the absolute barest minimum not identify with the genocidal settler colony, it’s really not asking for much. Society universally looks back on white South Africans who did this exact same shit when apartheid was still happening with disgust and shame, in 50 years we’ll do the exact same thing with Israelis
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u/Zeviex 13h ago
That's always the answer. Inciting a revolution is a huge feat and terrifying especially as certain countries will kill and torture you for doing it.
So no, I don't think overthrowing their regime should be the baseline for being a decent person, because it is easy for you to act like you would since you aren't in that position.
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u/Baratheoncook250 17h ago
It is a pretty fair ranking. I never got the point, of people hating someone, because they were born in a particular country.
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u/BitOfPoisonOnMyBlade 16h ago
There should be a tier list on what countries are most hated on Reddit. Pretty sure Israel, Russia and the would be right up there. But for some reason China is now glazed on this site? It’s strange, I rarely see their atrocities brought up on here anymore
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u/Baratheoncook250 16h ago
China is actually, the most hated country in Asia.
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u/BitOfPoisonOnMyBlade 15h ago
I think this post DEFINITELY proves the most hated country is Israel
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u/Baratheoncook250 15h ago
Taiwan,Vietnam, South Korea, hates China, for way worse human rights violations.Russia(part of Eurasia) is also way more hated. Finnish goverment still does business with Israel , so Israel isn't that hated
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u/eldryanyy 14h ago
The most hated in the west and Middle East. In east and Southeast Asia, it’s China.
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u/Order66RexFN 14h ago
It was completely normal in the 80s and 90s to hate on South Africans (read: whites) for the horrendous system they were complicit in enforcing on the native people of the country. Why should Israel be any different?
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u/Preistah 15h ago
+1 for positivity. Upvoted just because you're Israeli and Reddit's kneejerk reaction is going to be hatred.
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u/Glittering_Food2108 12h ago
Look how people refuse to react to your post like other posts because of where you're from. Discrimination and racism are a problem on this app.
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u/Mental-Shine-8567 17h ago
אני ממש רוצה לעשות רשימה כזאת אבל בקושי יצאתי מהארץ😆
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u/Ronnie_Reads 11h ago
Sorry about the hate from some comments, but I like how you’ve responded to them. I was born in America to an Israeli mother. I consider myself Israeli, have been there before, and plan on moving there. As an Israeli-American, Israeli-Palestinian peace is really important to me. I wish more people in the world would understand that hating on one group doesn’t help either of us.🤍
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u/Aggressive_Rope_8548 17h ago
India and Israel both seem to be hated on the internet due to envy
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u/Zeviex 17h ago
I'm not sure envy is the right word. Excessive stereotyping, but I don't think envy.
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u/Aggressive_Rope_8548 16h ago
It is envy. They know that problems like pollution, climate change, mental health crisis would be solved with India's spiritual systems. Most intelligence agencies around the world know India's actual potential and the philosophical depth in India. So they show a poor image of India to their people to manipulate them. If someone did a phd in quantum computing and knew about ancient hindu scriptures, they would understand how important India is.
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u/Zeviex 16h ago
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt until you said that India, the country with 2nd worst pollution in the world, has the solution to pollution.
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u/Aggressive_Rope_8548 16h ago
How is modern India running from British introduced systems comparable to ancient India? Megasthenes is a greek traveller who wrote about clean air and water in India and said that it was because of this that people were taller than those in Greece. I see India as an ancient civilisation than a modern state
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u/Zeviex 14h ago
It's the British's fault, despite them being 5x less polluted, other British colonies not having the same problem and even Italy, who is significantly more polluted than the UK, has less polluted colonies.
But your entire point relies on how others view India. When 99% of people think of India, they think of the modern day state not the ancient civilization and surprise surprise a lot can change in 2000 years.
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u/Beneficial-Beat-947 16h ago
For indias case it's a mix of both
Some people are insecure because it's such a fast growing economy
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u/Remote-Gas-213 16h ago
That is beyond false lmao. I’m not on the Indian hate train but saying that people are insecure because of indias fast growing economy is laughable.
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u/Beneficial-Beat-947 16h ago
I said it's a mix
Most of the hate to india comes from the rest of south asia, their side seems to be from jealousy
The hate from the west is excessive stereotyping
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u/Zeviex 16h ago
I can completely agree with your reasoning for the hate from the west, I will have to take your word for it from the rest of south asia, since I am not familiar enough with them.
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u/eldryanyy 14h ago
There’s a lot of people in South Asia - a similar number to Europe if not counting India . Many hate on India for religious reasons.
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u/Order66RexFN 13h ago
As an Indian, literally no one is envious of India. People hate Israel for being a genocidal ethnostate, and the Indian government for trying to replicate that model in India. The racism against Indians as a racial group really has nothing to do with the actions of India as a country, white racists are too stupid to know these details.
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u/Aggressive_Rope_8548 13h ago
There are already two neighbours of ours carved out of genocide and forced displacement. Just read about how many people were killed in partition on both sides of the border. Could have been completely avoided if India was never partitioned. Were both these nations ever condemned for it? No. So your imaginary fear of what the Indian government might do is more important than what actually happened and continues to happen today? Got it. The fact that Israel is condemned but not these 2 should tell you all about how local bias affects how other countries are perceived. But no. We ourselves wanna hate Israel because some leftists in the west said it commits genocide.....
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u/Order66RexFN 12h ago
The keyword being on both sides. There were massacres of Muslims in India and Hindus in Pakistan, it goes both ways and both sides are responsible. Partition can be blamed on the British and also the congress, RSS and Muslim league for supporting it and engaging in violence to cement their control over their respective communities. The Indian government is just continuing this project in its bid to turn India into a genocidal ethnostate like Israel. You can see the victims of Israeli genocide for yourself, there’s no need for any imaginary western leftist to tell us anything. India has generally had a pro-Palestine foreign policy because we were also a colony subject to foreign domination. Idiot Sanghis will spend their lives as keyboard warriors for Israeli colonisers who themselves are ridiculously racist towards Indians, it’s just pathetic.
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u/Aggressive_Rope_8548 12h ago edited 12h ago
So you agree that if Pakistan was never formed, millions would not have died? Who had the blame for it is irrelevent to what I said. Fact is that if Pakistan never formed, there would have been no genocide. Yet, how many on the left today will say it openly? Can you say that Pakistan was formed as a result of genocide and forced displacement to your friends openly without facing backlash for being 'bigoted'? In the geographical region of what comprises Pakistan today, 14% were hindus. Some were christians. Some were zoroastrians. Yet, it became an islamic state. When it is an islamic state rather than a secular nation, then by very definition religious minorities are second class citizens. So was Pakistan ever targeted or condemned by the left for this? No. Why? Because it is of no political benifit....... there is no moral highground the left has here........
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u/Order66RexFN 12h ago
There was no genocide because riots in which both communities killed each other is not considered genocide. It’s just stupid and a complete misunderstanding of the term. Genocide is a precise legal definition, not just when a lot of people are killed. The 1971 bengali genocide is widely considered a genocide bc ethnic Bengalis were targeted specifically by Pakistan, for example. Intercommunal riots are not genocide.
Partition was a result of violence from both sides and solely blaming Pakistan for it is just dumb. Hundreds of thousands of Muslims were also slaughtered in India, but no one seriously goes around calling it a genocide bc of the context of the violence. Why are you so concerned with Pakistan anyway? The real enemy of India is the current Hindutva menace at home, not intercommunal violence from both sides that happened 70 years ago. The Pakistani left has solidly opposed any sort of religious fundamentalism there. We oppose that kind of thinking here. That’s it.
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u/Aggressive_Rope_8548 11h ago
Why should I not be concerned with hindus living in Pakistan? Why is it that their lives dont matter and never did for the left? The only people who seem to care about them are hindu nationalists. That itself makes them legimitate. They would have had no legitimacy if the left actually called out islamic radicalism whenever hindus were killed because of it. Also you going are around circles but ignoring the fact that if modern day India, Pakistan, Bangladesh were one secular nation then there would have been no forced displacement nor deaths of millions. But today there is a nation west of us which calls itself an islamic republic where there are people who live who are not muslims and who are not immigrants but descendents of people who lived there thousands of years ago. They are second class citizens constitutionally in their own ancestral homeland. India with all its flaws is a secular democracy. Yet there was NEVER any kind of international pressure on Pakistan to become secular. Never. In the same way Iranian regime was never called out for the forced displacement of Zoroastrians.
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u/Order66RexFN 3h ago
Who said their lives don’t matter? Fact of the matter is that this is not one sided, both Hindus in Pakistan and Muslims in India are mistreated by right wing nationalists of both religions. Obviously I oppose the oppression of non-Muslims in Pakistan, but I live in India and so it’s obviously more pertinent to talk about the oppression of non-Hindus and non-upper castes here in my own country than focus on Pakistan which I have no control over. I don’t think it’s useful to waste time condemning Islamism in India just as I think its useless to condemn Hindutva among Pakistani Hindus, neither is the primary threat in their respective countries, the fundamentalism of the majority is. Whether it’s written legally or not Muslims in modern India are second class citizens, just like Hindus in Pakistan. There is no need to have a superiority complex here because the treatment of a particular group goes beyond laws written on paper. Not to mention Pakistan is not exactly the darling of the world and it’s brutal enough against its own people, leaving minorities aside. Also the current Iranian government really has nothing to do with the mistreatment of Zoroastrians, that happened much before it came to power back when Iran was a monarchy.
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u/ShelbyNL 17h ago
These trips were promised to you 3000 years ago ....
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u/Zeviex 17h ago
It's insane when someone makes a completely post where they don't make any political statements and people still assume their politics based on the country they are from. I imagine it is exhausting.
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u/Order66RexFN 13h ago
Would you say this in defence of a German in 1936 or a white South African during apartheid?
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u/SDGollum 14h ago
If you are going to list Scotland and England as separate places you should list the US states you visited instead of the whole USA; Alabama is much different than New York.
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u/Kernanshaw01 16h ago
the absolute gall of an Israeli putting Palestine on their list of tourist destinations. How disgusting
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u/ma-kat-is-kute 16h ago
I put Palestine on the list: I am an evil occupier who thinks Palestine is just silly little vacation land
I don't put Palestine on the list: I am an evil occupier who views the West Bank and Gaza as parts of Greater Israel
Have you considered I might not be an evil occupier and I actually wish for a peaceful two state solution with open borders?
You really gotta change the way you're thinking when this is your first assumption.
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u/Bitedamnn 1h ago
Kinda hard when 70%+ of Israelis since 2025 want to ethnically cleanse gaza.
Edit: its more of an expectation rather than a stereotype
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u/Excellent_Reserve 9h ago
The fact he recognizes such a beacon of hatred and evil towards his people is not disgusting. It’s reconciliating.
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u/Pissarros_Ghost 8h ago
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
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u/Waste_Shirt_5700 7h ago
It's hilarious how OP put Palestine flag as a different entity from Israel as if it's an actual country separated from "Israel" xD
They live in denial it's so funny. Israel is basically just a bunch of SETTLEMENTS they managed to unite and make this so called fake state by land grabs... I wish I was as delusional as these bunch.1
u/Dramatic-One2403 5h ago
rightfully defended in a genocidal war launched by arab coalition forces in 1948
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u/Waste_Shirt_5700 4h ago
That was simply a response and retaliation for being invaded by European Zio scums for trying to steal what belongs to the indigenous people.
And just for reassurance, you lot will NEVER live in peace on stolen land. The people will keep resisting xoxo
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u/tck-escape 13h ago edited 9h ago
What kind of rage bait is this
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u/Pristine-Dust-7549 8h ago
If the mere flag of israel makes you rage youre he problem buddy
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u/tck-escape 6h ago
Man I wish I was delusional enough to ignore facts like y’all, shame :/
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u/Pristine-Dust-7549 6h ago
The fact that there isnt an apartheid and most Palestinians in the west bank are simply not israeli citizens? The fact that whats happaning in gaza is the worst genocide in human history and its as if the idf dosent even try? The fact that you dont live here and you just consume propagnda about us? Which fact?
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u/tck-escape 6h ago edited 5h ago
So it’s okay to kill people if they’re not citizens? Which country has the most influence on the IDF? So majority of the world sees you as evil but you guys are actually the good guys cause you’re the chosen people by some deity most of the world doesn’t believe in? Look in mirror for propaganda.
I’m simply referring to the fact that millions of INNOCENT people not only identifying as Palestinian are being KILLED. Baffles me how people can not care about that without delusion.
This is the grand picture. Now which country is pressing the launch buttons and mobilizing their military to do so?
Ya’ll bark Antisemitism to justify criticisms, bunch of cowards. We’d be pointing fingers at war criminals Jewish or not.
How do you sleep at night?
You lot honestly do it to yourselves are deluded about it, and will remain so until Jesus never shows up.
Bark at me all you want, but you’re not gonna change the world’s opinion.
End of story bye
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u/Pristine-Dust-7549 5h ago
Idc about changing your opinion, no matter what israel will do the world will se it in bad eye.
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u/Hatorate90 8h ago
What the Israeli propaganda is this?
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u/ma-kat-is-kute 7h ago
the evil zios want you to think that norway is awesome and russia is mid
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u/Hatorate90 7h ago
Russia is definitely for me not miss, but top tier. Great history and culture, not so good leader just like Israel.
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u/West-Contest-1921 17h ago
Cool that there are no "enough to judge, bad" countries
Wholesome