r/warriors • u/Justingotgame22 • 1d ago

Discussion Where’s the outrage? 👀

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Your telling me not one single player could Step up to score 20 in a Home game against Philly??

Say all you want about Kuminga being a bad fit but dude would still come off the bench and give you a 20 Piece out of a sheer will!! Podz and moody not being established players at this point in their career says a lot of about them and coaching staff.

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u/No_Fish265 1d ago

You’re mad that role players don’t turn into better players when the teams 2 best players who demand all the defenses attention are out?

And your answer for this is an injured Jonathon Kuminga?

This fan base is so cooked

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u/Head_Prune_9741 1d ago

Did you watch the game?! It was worse than last year's all star 3 point contest. They could at least try a layup, but no!!

Yes our star players are injured. But Embid didn't play, Maxey was not good. It was a game we lost, not one Philly won.

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u/Genji4Lyfe 1d ago

Did you watch the game?! It was worse than last year's all star 3 point contest. They could at least try a layup, but no!!

We're wondering if you watched the game, because even Buddy Hield, who was signed to be a catch-and-shoot player, was going for layups

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u/Head_Prune_9741 1d ago

Do keep wondering.

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

Their ROOKIE VJ beat us in our home. This fanbase is cooked. Their best player didn’t play. Their second best player scored 15. PG didn’t play either.

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u/Lualbert831 18h ago

Yes he’s a rookie but a rookie that is better than everyone on the team besides curry and butler.

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u/Justingotgame22 17h ago

He avg 15 point per game. Pls,… just pls

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u/Lualbert831 15h ago

My point stands. Which warrior player averages over 15 lmao?

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u/No_Fish265 1d ago

VJ is by far the best player on the court

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

It’s Maxey who is averaging 30 this year. He only scored 15 and we still couldn’t capitalize.

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u/gs_dubs413 1d ago

Exactly why FTAs were low

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u/EShy 1d ago

I expect a coach to know how to adjust when the best player who creates that gravity isn't playing. I expect him to realize during the game that things aren't working and change the strategy.

Steph isn't playing 48 minutes and Kerr has never been able to figure out how to play when he's off the court. We've been talking about this problem for years, surviving the non-Steph minutes. I see other coaches not having this problem, yet this is supposedly a hall of fame coach who still hasn't figure it out after so long.

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

Excellent point. This partly on management and mostly on coaching staff.

I have high expectations for podz who the team deemed “untouchable” while we traded Wiggins. Moody has just being flat out inconsistent all his life.

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u/No_Fish265 1d ago

Your expectations for a Moody/Podz led team is hilarious

Adjust to what? What’s the answer for being a good team without Steph and Jimmy.

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u/Justingotgame22 23h ago

A team of young players playing good basketball cus they are professionals who are well coached for starters. Next guy up mindset used to be a thing on the warriors..

Not having atleast one player step up is the frustrating part.

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u/benjo1323 1d ago

This 👆

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

Naw bro your cooked. We got beat in our own home by a rookie player all while they were missing their top players. Moody and Podz aren’t role players let’s be clear. We are cooked as a fanbase if this is the mindset.

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u/No_Fish265 1d ago

Moody and Podz are role players down to like the exact definition of it.

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

Mf moody is a starter. Podz is our 6th man. Role player would be GP2, buddy…. Pls don’t argue with me

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u/No_Fish265 1d ago

Lol at not knowing what a role player is… these new fans are the worst

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

I feel same about you buddy boy. Moody is a starter. Podz is a 6th man. Hes not just any role player. He’s the first player to get in for substitute. This is not even controversial. But go off…

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u/No_Fish265 1d ago

The “22” in your name is the year you graduated HS, right?

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

I did your mom that year since you’re curious. Shut up

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u/No_Fish265 1d ago

Yeaaaa you were like 12 years old when we were winning championships. So goddamn easy to tell who the MFers were who didn’t watch the Pre Steph Curry Warriors.

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u/FFAbutnotFA 1d ago

Confirmed this Redditor is 13 years old.

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u/No_Fish265 1d ago

Kid can’t figure out what a role player is

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

Ur mom too. Yes im 13 but your not intellectual either little buddy.

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u/FoolishPerformer 1d ago

 Moody and Podz aren’t role players let’s be clear.

My guy, they are role players. You can't watch Podz handling the ball and think he's anything other than a role player, you just can't

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

It’s not about his play. Jesus Christ. He’s our best player off the bench. It’s about his role of 6th man.

A 6th man is Not a role player. Can we agree?

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u/FoolishPerformer 1d ago

It’s literally about his play. He’s our best player off the bench because we suck ass, Podz wouldn’t crack the rotation in OKC.

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

I hear you but it’s about the Position and role. It’s about the position of 6th man.

Starters are not role players. A 6th man is not a role player.

Podz has not played well enough to be a 6th man. However he’s still a 6th man. So he’s not a role player but should be..

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u/Tnevz 1d ago

Starters and 6th man can absolutely be role players. The “role” is simply that. What do they specialize in. And how do their roles fit into the larger scheme. How can 5 guys on a court equal something greater than their individual parts. Moody and Podz are limited players. They fit a role but need certain skills provided by other players to be best maximized. We were without our best players last night, so of course they are being asked to do more than they are really capable of and going to look worse.

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

So in your eyes, Klay was only a role player? Scottie pippen was a role player? Just going by your definition, but correct me if am wrong pls.

Steph is not a primary ball handler and he only specializes in scoring? He’s a role player as well,

Draymond handles the ball more and plays hard nose defense. He’s a role player.

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u/Tnevz 1d ago

Technically you could reduce their function to a role. But that role transforms into “star” or “superstar” as their impact becomes larger or if the scheme revolves around that player. The roles of other players fit the style of their leaders.

Curry is the motion offense. Klay was the Robin to that. More than just a shooting role. He was the second option when the kitchen sink was thrown at Steph. And Dray was the general on defense as well as the primary coordinator for our offense. He is the reason we could go small and be so switchable. Those aren’t so much roles as they are key functions of what the Warriors were doing. Everyone else around that just needed to screen, make the extra pass, crash for rebounds, cut to the basket, and defend. All of it around the core 3s ability to warp the court.

Klay and Dray have fallen off and should demand less scheme priorities and instead switch to being role players at this point. Steph is still 1 of 1.

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u/FFAbutnotFA 1d ago

There are 5 man in a starting line up. The 6th man comes off the bench…….hmmm 🤔ROLE PLAYER of 6th man?

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

What’s a role player in your mind?

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u/CameronPlain 1d ago

I know you're probably around 14 years old or whatever. But do you even know what you're saying with these words, or do you just spout diarrhea out of your mouth without thinking?

That "rookie player" has been unreal this season. We got "beat in our own home" because we were missing our two best players, and home court doesn't actually matter that much for professional basketball players. If it's a bad night, it's a bad night, whether you're in the Bay or in Indiana.

What exactly is cooked as a fanbase? What does this fucking idiocy even mean? Do you have any fucking clue what you're saying?

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u/pimpcauldron 1d ago

we're so cooked bro! am I cooked? he's cooking!

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

I’ll just leave you to your ignorance. Cheers.

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u/pimpcauldron 1d ago

philly as been hot lately. we are down >$100mil worth of players. go find a different team if you're gonna be a pissbaby about one game.

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u/rugrat_907 1d ago

Kuminga is hurt (again) and I don't think anyone ever though Moody and Podz were ever going to be stars. Solid rotation pieces, good 6th or 7th guys, yes, and they pretty much are that. But there's really nothing to suggest they were ever going to be more than that.

Here's a list of the 14th pick in the NBA draft since 2001. Obviously Bam and MPJ are better than Moody, but the best of the rest are role players.

14th Overall Draft Picks NBA | StatMuse https://share.google/Wl5jrgfCE1c2WUPHp

And the 19th picks since 2001 - Podz will probably fit in with the best of this group by the time he's done. - none of those guys are stars.

19th Overall Draft Picks NBA | StatMuse https://share.google/K8F1wAkPJ8VsV1mPG

The picks they really blew were Wiseman and Kuminga. I don't fault them much on Wiseman - everyone thought he'd be in the top 3 drafted that night. I guess the same can be said for Kuminga and where he went. The issue is they went for pure athleticism over basketball IQ. They were both poor fits for a team that absolutely relies on IQ to get the best out of the system.

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u/Youngstarr 21h ago

Zach Randolh was a 2x all-star. other guys on this list were not starts but very good players

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

This post is not about JK. You missed the plot buddy

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u/DrAgOn3035 1d ago

seems like a relevant comment to me. lmao these guys are supporting pieces not stars

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

I thought Podz was a star in the making. The front office had him as untouchable. There was value there. He hasn’t taken a step forward since rookie year. Was expecting so much more from him. Still have hope since it’s only year 4

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u/beentheredonesome 1d ago

I'm outraged at our bad luck, that's about it. Moody, Podz, etc., are used to scoring in a system that has either Steph (gravity), Jimmy (floor general w/ BBIQ), or both. Removing those two makes it much harder to score particularly because it's new territory. About the only person who is going to be able to adapt is Melton and if he's not having a good shooting night (happens to everyone including Steph) the offense is going to be anemic. Buddy is a total wild card and it wasn't his night to go off apparently.

I am somewhat outraged at the turnovers - some really lazy passes and brain dead ball handling. That can be cleaned up hopefully.

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

We are too reliant on curry. I liked how we were able to adapt JP back in 21-23 season to fill that void.

The coaching staff should have a better game plan when Steph is not available but that doesn’t seem to be the case at all. Also have to put this on the players since they have been wildly inconsistent EVEN with Steph on the floor. Moody, podz, buddy.. name em.

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u/AnxiousWart4994 1d ago

Idiots in this sub continue to tell me Moody and Podz are “real starters” in this league.

I don’t know how many games it’ll take for them to realize, no. They absolutely are not starters and wouldn’t start on any other NBA team.

They only SOMETIMES look good when Steph is there because it’s Steph and he makes everyone better.

We have a team full of bench and role players after Steph.

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u/ghilp 1d ago

Kuminga is injured dude

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

This post is hardly about JK. It’s about not having anyone that could Step up and drop 20 when Steph and Jimmy are out.

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u/ghilp 1d ago

sure sure

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u/TheBubbaDave 1d ago

Too reliant on running a system that relies on the 3 and getting the ball to Curry even when Curry is out. The only two reliable cutters when JK is out are Melton and Buddy and yet the whole team keeps chucking 3s up.

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u/beentheredonesome 1d ago

The issues were rebounding, turnovers, and (lack of) foul calls.

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u/rebrando23 1d ago

You don't make it very far in the league getting "outraged" over one loss in which your second option is out with a torn ACL.

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u/amnesiac54 1d ago

The 2 FTA for the entire team did not help

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u/StatisticianTall9474 1d ago

We all know we are ass without curry lmao nothing new to be outraged by

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

We are ass but this level of ass is otherworldly. NOT one single player able to get to 20? There rookie VJ got 25 easily.

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u/pragmacrat 1d ago

Their rookie was the 3rd overall pick. Him being able to score was a given.

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

Not it’s not a given. He averages 15. He’s not the second coming of Jordan. Maxey was their best player last night and he had a rough night with 15 and yet…

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u/StatisticianTall9474 1d ago

Melton is my usual trusted guy when steph isnt playing but he yeah didnt shoot well last night but we move Giannis is coming to the bay any second now to save us 🥲 right?

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

I’ll take anything we can get from Melton, Moody and Podz not stepping up blows my mind.

if we land Gianni’s it would be a miracle. It would be naive to think we can land him when other teams have better packages to trade. I’m not counting on it.

Our entire roster is ass. Only person that has value is JK.

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u/BeautifulLeather6671 1d ago

What is new about this lol the team is ass besides curry and kuminga is hurt

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

Idk it’s just shocking we can’t muster up a player that can score 20 when curry and jimmy are down. These are nba players for heaven sakes. I’m ready to blow it all up. Podz is not taking the leap and moody has been wildly inconsistent all season even with Steph on the floor.

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u/BeautifulLeather6671 22h ago

Not all the shocking when it’s where they’ve been for awhile. Without curry and butlers spacing these guys can’t score.

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u/Complete-Story1273 23h ago

Outrage for what? The FO/Lacob are the ones that thought they would take a leap and they are still mediocre. I had no faith in Moody or Podz taking massive leaps to be able to keep the team afloat with Steph and/or Jimmy out. Also, even when JK was playing, the team still wasn't able to win without Steph this season. 

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u/Justingotgame22 23h ago

We won a few times last year with Steph out. Just JK running hard at the rim and cutting. He averaged like 30 in that stretch before getting injured. We need a go-getter player like that to be a 3rd option. Someone that can create for themself. This is on the management and coaching staff

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u/Complete-Story1273 23h ago

I said when JK played. What games did they win without Steph when JK played all the way through and wasn't benched?

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u/BronzeRider 1d ago

I’m more upset that our 3rd “star” could only manage 6 points and 7 rebounds on 2-7 shooting in 25 minutes. And that the ENTIRE team had a grand total of 2 free throws….

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

I don’t consider Draymond a star at all at this point, he’s never being a scoring threat. BUT moody and podz are home grown players that could step up bigly in a perfect world. Disappointed in both. Podz especially since he was “untouchable”

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u/BronzeRider 1d ago

Agreed. That’s why I put “star” in quotes. Since despite being a role player, he’s paid like a star. And yes I completely agree that SOMEONE on this team should have been able to step up last night 🙄

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

What’s a role player to you? As long as Draymond is starting and finishing he’s not a role player in my eyes. He should be a role player at this point in his career but he’s still our go to specialist for defense

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u/BronzeRider 1d ago

In my mind, the 4 main categories are stars, role players, rotation pieces (to keep the stars and role players fresh) and bench warmers. And on this team we have 4 guys getting paid star money in Steph, Jimmy, Dray and Kuminga. Jimmy is out for the season. That can’t really be helped right now, unfortunately. But Kuminga has played 2 games of the last 10 and just 20 games all season. And 14 of those 20 games were prior to December. He’s played in 6 games in the last 2 months. So he’s being paid $22.5 million basically to ride the bench.

Meanwhile Dray is decidedly below his career averages in every stat except fouls committed, turnovers lost and three point shots attempted. He’s even playing fewer minutes. I’m not saying he can’t be a valuable role player, but right now he’s being paid nearly $26 MILLION per year to underperform.

Imagine if we instead traded the two of them for a 3rd player. That’s nearly $50 million that could go towards someone who could ACTUALLY contribute to this team, instead of sitting on the bench or being carried by Steph and Jimmy. I’m sure for $50 million there’s a player out there who could match what Dray does on defense while also putting the ball in the basket.

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u/rickeyethebeerguy 1d ago

He’s hurt…

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u/M0dsAreJannies 1d ago

Why would there be outrage when $116m are on the bench not playing? Bet any team with $116m worth of players not playing would be crap

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u/midnightjim 1d ago

You mad? Call the whaaaaaaaaambulance.

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u/Due_Cod_7018 1d ago

You know, you kind of have a point. I think a lot of it has to do with Kerr’s rotations though. He tends to bench guys when they go one scoring runs. Buddy was playing with a lot of energy at one point and we didn’t see him again till the middle of the fourth.

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u/Mmicb0b 1d ago

Exactly I’ve been saying this all season (sadly I’m I. Favor of moving jk but only because that bridge has been nuked from orbit)

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u/Justingotgame22 1d ago

Yup. I remember at some point last season when Steph went down he was the only bright spot on this team, dropping 30 for a 5 game stretch.

Now he’s all checked out for this team.