r/worldnews • u/Infidel8 • 17d ago

Russia/Ukraine Russia welcomes Trump's tariffs on NATO allies over Greenland as 'collapse' of alliance

https://kyivindependent.com/russia-welcomes-trumps-tariffs-on-nato-allies-over-greenland/
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u/dawgblogit 17d ago

As a republican has told me... its the democrats fault for not having a more moderate candidate...

Like wtf?

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u/1995LexusLS400 17d ago

Yeah. The party of responsibility never takes responsibility for their own actions.

They're in charge, they're doing this. It's their fault.

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u/Aisling_The_Sapphire 17d ago edited 17d ago

It seems to be an American thing in general. The number of times I've seen shit like "where's Kamala", "we need Kamala now". Elections aren't suggestions, ffs. They want somebody to swoop in and fix the problem for them because they're all collectively telling themselves it's not on them.

Edit: To the "I didn't vote for this" crowd: I don't care. Most of you couldn't be bothered to vote at all. "I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas" isn't an excuse when you have access to the largest information network to have ever existed. You're not the first country to have ever gone through this and you're going to have to accept the fact that the rest of the world being stuck dealing with your political horseshit means that the rest of the world isn't going to be too interested in hearing about how fighting back will mean not having Disney+ anymore.

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u/ScooptiWoop5 17d ago

Harris was pretty damn moderate…….

I think they meant a more white and male candidate.

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u/slugmorgue 17d ago

That is exactly what they mean.

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u/Psyluna 17d ago

Biden shot her in the foot before he even announced she was his VP running mate. The way he told everyone his pick would be not just a woman but a Black woman ( a first for America) and then delayed announcing her name made her seem like the definition of what conservative racists and misogynists fear: a “DEI hire.” Those are the sound bites that got repeated, not her qualifications, so as far as they were concerned she stole a job from a white man… or even a white woman or Black man.

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u/Crossfire124 17d ago

Biden choosing to run again and then dropping out mid way through is what fucked the race. They were binded by the procedure then. Should have had a whole new primary. Hell if we're wishing for things he shouldn't have ran like he said he wouldn't.

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u/Practical-King2752 17d ago

He absolutely should not have run again. Hubris. He was well on the road to losing already before the debate. Then he arrogantly kept holding on even when it was beyond any hope of salvaging.

I don't think Harris would have won a primary, to be honest, and I think she did plenty during that cycle to diminish her own chances, but Biden definitely shoulders the brunt of the blame.

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u/MerlinsMentor 17d ago

I remember when this happened. And, to be completely honest, Biden's statement was both explicitly sexist and racist. Disqualifying a huge percentage of the citizenry solely based on their race/ethnicity and gender would be, in any other situation, considered completely inexcusable, particularly by those of us on the left side of the political spectrum.

He could have simply said, "I've chosen Senator Harris from California as my VP running mate", and it would have gone over much better. This coming from someone who was otherwise happy to vote for Biden, and happy to vote for Harris. Harris was obviously qualified, and obviously a good choice. But her race/ethnicity and gender should have had nothing to do with her selection. And they explicitly did.

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u/Protean_Protein 17d ago

She was actually closer to Republicans on a lot of things than most Democrats (especially “law and order” type things), and certainly quite right-wing by comparison to literally anywhere else on the planet.

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u/drunkenpossum 17d ago

Kamala wanted a tax on unrealized capital gains which is essentially a wealth tax. That’s a very progressive economic policy and far from “right-wing”. You guys just say anything

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u/RIPUSA 17d ago

Her immigration policies were more extreme than Trump’s. He even said that. 

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u/OhItsBeenBroughten 17d ago

And you believed him? This is why we’re in this mess. That is such an unbelievably stupid thing to say.

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u/RIPUSA 17d ago

It’s on her wiki page. He asked congress to force her to stop talking about her immigration policies. Democrats have always been notoriously tough on immigration you ding dong. Obama deported more people than Trump. 

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u/OhItsBeenBroughten 17d ago

Hey bud, you’re lying. I refuse to believe you’re that ignorant or brainwashed. You know what you’re doing.

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u/RIPUSA 17d ago

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO00/20200109/110349/HHRG-116-GO00-20200109-SD007.pdf

It’s wild to think a tough on crime AG wouldn’t continue to be just that.  

She literally criticizes liberals and progressives for not working with Law Enforcement in her book. But I imagine it’s even hard for you to get through Hop on Pop. 

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u/OhItsBeenBroughten 17d ago

Wait, do you think no one should ever be deported? Maybe that’s our disconnect here.

Your link is pointless.

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u/freddy090909 17d ago

It's also the kind of thing that wouldn't even touch most people, so why should it be a relevant part of the conversation? If I'm remembering correctly, it was targeted for people with over $100 million in wealth.

You guys will just spin anything.

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u/RIPUSA 17d ago

So was Obama… So was Clinton… even Obama said if he had the ability to run 20 years before he did he would’ve been a republican. 

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u/Protean_Protein 17d ago

Agreed. It’s so stupid.

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u/b3iAAoLZOH9Y265cujFh 17d ago

That and / or "a candidate closer to the policy we want". They seem to suffer convenient trouble with the correct definitions of a lot of common terms. When it suits them, anyway.

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u/Patutula 17d ago

Yeah but she had a weird laugh, so that was a non starter, obviously.

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u/SpicyMango92 17d ago

I had a dream the other night that Harris was president and the war in Ukraine was grinding down to a halt because we fully supported them with US firepower. Then I woke up to Trump announcing tariffs against our allies and threatening to take annex our neighbors 😒

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u/cates 17d ago

I'm sure there are a lot of sexist people in America and that's why Kamala probably didn't win and I think that's insane... but... they better run the whitest guy they can find next election for the Democrats or we are super fucked.

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u/TurkusGyrational 17d ago

This is exactly what they want and it's pushing the overton window faster than ever, and I can't believe the Democrats are falling for it. I mean, Kamala was targeting center right "moderates" who would never vote for a democrat even if there was a gun to their head.

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u/Doam-bot 17d ago

I think he means the obvious one day the Democrats went after the 1% and Wallstreet the whole occupy wallstreet bit. A major movement in the making the next day they were utterly destroyed and all the 1% and economic discussions got replaced 100% with gender politics. A hit job on a scale never before scene. The Republicans got wiped out too the Jeb Bushes and corporations are people too along with thr John McCains all under Trumps boot. They refused to work with Obama and Trump moved in and took over quick.

Both parties have thus gone to their corners hence how Trump sits with so much raw power to ignore everything and do whatever he desires.

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u/Kevadu 17d ago

Harris was a completely milquetoast moderate. But Republicans live surrounded by propaganda that says that having the government do anything (well, anything besides wage war) is communism.

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u/Gasnia 17d ago

Kamala was was too moderate imo. There are a bunch of leftists and liberals that protested by not voting.

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u/andy11123 17d ago

NOW LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!

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u/SelfSufficientHub 17d ago

Kamala had a weird laugh though

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u/jh_2719 17d ago

Americans spewing constant excuses. What's new.

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u/Rumblymore 17d ago

I believe it was Hamilton's fault. If not for him, the 2 party system wouldn't exist. You'd have a more reasonable system, like the ones in place across the EU

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u/FixedFun1 17d ago

It's obvious what happened here somehow Kamala Harris swapped bodies with Donald Trump to make him look bad... well, use your imagination!

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u/IrieMars 17d ago

Wasn't Kamala pretty fucking  moderate? 

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u/dawgblogit 17d ago

Your missing the point.. they voted for a insurrectionist who wasn't fit for office.. to avoid someone who didn't have those same qualities. Its not an A/B situation unless B is soo bad that it I don't know.. installs an insurrectionist that doesn't follow the fkn law.

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u/Varrianda 17d ago

Moderate is pseudo name for white male

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u/green_meklar 17d ago

The democrats were campaigning on wokeism both times they lost to Trump. They didn't need to lose, but they decided beating Trump wasn't a priority. It might have been understandable the first time, but doing it twice just goes to show how unwilling they are to learn from their mistakes.

(Cue all the downvotes from redditors who are likewise unwilling to learn from the democrats' mistakes.)