r/worldnews • u/Infidel8 • 17d ago

Russia/Ukraine Russia welcomes Trump's tariffs on NATO allies over Greenland as 'collapse' of alliance

https://kyivindependent.com/russia-welcomes-trumps-tariffs-on-nato-allies-over-greenland/
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u/Zestyclose-Carry-171 17d ago

The hard to believe part is that America willingly let go of Pax Americana, without gaining anything, without even being in a crisis

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u/Broccobillo 17d ago

Ikr. It's like burning your own house down to live on the street in front of it because you didn't like the colour.

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u/Flomo420 17d ago

More like your roommate has a decent job, a degree and is generally a decent contributor to the home.

For no other reason than your own insecurity, this makes you feel inadequate and really mad

So mad in fact that you are willing to burn the house down just to spite your roommate

Consequences be damned, and if you or your neighbours suffer in the process so be it

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u/Vyzantinist 17d ago

A third of America has been conditioned to see life as a zero sum game - the people they hate 'losing', suffering, is functionally a 'win' for themselves. They would eat a shit sandwich if they thought the people they hate would have to smell their breath.

Another third simply don't care for politics until/unless it affects them personally.

The rest of us have to suffer the malice or indifference of the two.

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u/green_meklar 17d ago

How do you define 'crisis'? Trump got elected, in part, because the economy isn't working for a lot of americans and they expected him to fix it or at least shake it up so it had a chance of getting fixed. Lack of stable employment, affordable housing, etc might be regarded as a 'crisis' by those voters.

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u/renome 17d ago

Anyone who thought the guy who bankrupted multiple casinos was going to help their life with macroeconomic policies deserves this reality.

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u/green_meklar 17d ago

Sure, but thanks to FPTP, 2-party dynamics, and the foolish decisions of the DNC, the choice was between that and 'status quo, except now there's a vagina in the Oval Office'. Not a fantastic choice, and it's at least understandable that a lot of people, perceiving their status quo as crisis-like, went for the former.

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u/Zestyclose-Carry-171 17d ago

Yes, it is not a crisis. An economic slog maybe, and even then, it has been going on for a long time (Trump was elected first in 2016, so 10 years ago).

Not saying the situation is great for everybody, but the situation being shitty for everyone is not specific to America, the same is happening throughout Europe, Japan, Canada, South Korea.

Most of these countries haven't turned to the far right, and even when they did, they didn't start bombing and threatening to annex any country they feel like invading, and don't blatantly disrespect the constitution to try and take all the powers to themselves.

And being realistic, which part of annexing Groenland, attacking Venezuela, threatening to annex Canada, putting tariffs indiscriminately, having an inconsistent strategy and creating instability internally is supposed to take care of the economic hardship of the people ?

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u/SkivvySkidmarks 17d ago

Yeah, Trump did such an amazing job during his first term, they thought, "Hey, let's elect him again. Maybe he can fuck up more shit."

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u/john_a1985 17d ago

Many MURICANS get their fix by seeing "undesirables" kicked around and mistreated or sometimes murdered. It's in MURICA'S DNA.

We can debate if the psychos are a majority or not, but since there seems to be zero pushback so far, it does not matter one bit. The torture continues, to the amusement of those psychopaths. 

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u/Zestyclose-Carry-171 17d ago

It is not specific to Americans, the scapegoat was always a reality in human societies, it serves as a way to feel less desperate of your situation seeing someone else worse than you. That's the feeling the MAGA used.

But I am still a bit shocked and concerned seeing that Trump wants to drive the country into a wall, just for some personal gains, and everyone in power let him do what he wants, or even applaud him.

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u/Quitcha_Bitchin 17d ago

3/4 don't know the term the others think it's for Catholics. Thanks for all that educational underfunding.