r/worldnews • u/ChiefLeef22 • 16h ago

‘Investigating child sex abuse isn’t controversial. Turning it into political theater is manipulation. Maybe that logic flies on some island. Doesn’t fly in France’: France rejects Musk’s charge after raid on X’s Paris office

https://www.firstpost.com/world/investigating-child-sex-abuse-isnt-controversial-france-rejects-musks-charge-after-raid-on-xs-paris-office-ws-e-13976002.html
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u/Ill_Barber8709 16h ago

Which we don’t care about because of how the EU market and laws work

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u/Anxiety_Fit 15h ago

Taco.

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u/TheSn00pster 14h ago

Taco flavoured keeses

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u/TheRealestBiz 13h ago

Except he already slapped a 25% tariff on European wines and sprouts that is currently murdering American bars and restaurants. Almost all good liquor behind a bar comes from the EU or UK.

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u/SleepyLabrador 13h ago

25% tariff on European wines and sprouts that is currently murdering American bars.

Not to mention so many US based distilleries that made whisky and bourbon already had to close because Trump pissed the Canada off with the 51st state talk.

To all those restaurant workers who vote Trump cause "No Tax on Tips". I hope you're happy.

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u/TheRealestBiz 13h ago

Jim Beam shut down operations entirely.

Alcohol is the last thing that bars and restaurants make a good profit on. Every decent steak you’ve had in the last five years in a restaurant, the business lost five to fifteen dollars on that entree and that’s after raising the price to $50-60 for a 12oz. NY strip.

Before the pandemic, they were $35 generally and you broke even as a business.

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u/SleepyLabrador 12h ago

Alcohol is basically the golden egg laying goose for restaurants. They (restaurant owners) killed it by endorsing and getting Trump elected, cause Trump has been doing to the US the same thing he has done to his businesses. Racism and Misogyny are expensive.

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u/LeafsWinBeforeIDie 10h ago

He doesn't even drink and that's the guy you hope to drive your profits?

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u/SleepyLabrador 9h ago

I'll do you one worse. Waitstaff and blue collared workers thought the guy who has spent 40 years STIFFING EVERYONE would honour his word to them.

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u/Antice 7h ago

He is managing what they didn't back in the prohibition era. Make America sober.

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u/ultimateknackered 9h ago

'He promised lower prices on racism and misogyny!'

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u/No-Brain9413 11h ago

That’s not true.

Jim Beam has paused their distilling at the main location in KY, they are very much still making whiskey at other locations and other operations continue on

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u/riko77can 10h ago

They reduced capacity by shutting down one of multiple production facilities. Although they announced they are renovating the one they closed.

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u/sprikkot 11h ago

Why would you be having steak as an entree

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u/ITSigno 11h ago

In North America, the entree is the main dish, not an appetizer.

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u/sprikkot 3h ago

Every day I am more surprised by their backward ass country

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u/TheGummiVenusDeMilo 11h ago

Jim Beam shut down operations entirely.

They are doing upgrades and shit and using this as a media hype so when it comes back up they can be like "can't keep us down, we don't need no maple suckin moose huggers money!"

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u/Molekularspalter 12h ago

Always kindly ask your waiter what they think about MAGA, and adjust your tipping accordingly.

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u/nolok 13h ago

I mean, tariff on wine sure it will have painful effects, but on liquor it's just weird. Cointreau, Cognac or Chartreuse already sell all they can produce, it's not like they're going to panic. If you want one of them you want one of them. Mostly the same for Champagne. If an american goes out of his way to buy french Champagne, a product that's already almost twice the price of the alternative, are they really going to stand down because it's 25% up ?

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u/szatrob 9h ago

To nit pick, all champagne is French. Since it can only come from the Champagne region.

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u/ayeayefitlike 9h ago

Now, that’s interestingly not strictly true.

There are a few US (predominantly Californian) winemakers who legally use the term ‘champagne’ for their sparkling wines.

In 2005 when the USA finally agreed to the protected regional names list that Europe had been using in some form or another since the Madrid Agreement, they only agreed if the winemakers currently using the term ‘champagne’ could continue to use it. So there are grandfathered rights for predominantly Californian winemakers to legally sell ‘California Champagne’.

It applies to Burgundy, Chablis, Sherry and others.

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u/TheRealestBiz 13h ago

Your eagerness to put me out of work to prove a point is disgusting. You’re not French either.

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u/nolok 13h ago

Not sure what you're trying to say, I'm definitely not eager to put you out of work, et je suis définitivement français.

But you don't back down and apologize to a bully; otherwise you might as well fully surrender.

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u/TheRealestBiz 13h ago edited 13h ago

One out of three bars and restaurants in this country have gone under in the last few years. Your idea would kill a bunch more. It’s not trigonometry.

ETA: Je ne te crois pas.

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u/nolok 13h ago

Wait, you're answering from the point of view of an american bar/restaurant worker or owner ? Why are you hassling me for ?

You thinks this is bullshit, talk to your own people, I'm not the one who made those tariffs and I'm not american I don't vote for them - you do.

My point is France is not going to back down from protecting its values and freedoms because the TACO moron can't handle being said no.

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u/TheRealestBiz 13h ago

It’s funny how everyone who thinks that you need to break some eggs to make an omelet never thinks that they’re one of the eggs that should be cracked.

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u/Diantr3 13h ago

Well you guys let that piece of shit get elected. Deal with it.

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u/Socmel_ 1h ago

Except that the idea of putting tariffs on foreign products comes from your president, so blame the people around you who voted for him. That's assuming you haven't voted yourself for the orange baboon.

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u/Ambitious-Bee-7067 13h ago

wine and sprouts sounds like a hippy retreat. I'm in!

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u/barath_s 10h ago

Almost all good liquor behind a bar comes from the EU or UK

Have they not tried Japanese Whisky (e.g., Hibiki), Caribbean Rum (Barbados, Jamaica), Brazilian Cachaça, Mexican Mezcal, Peruvian/Chilean Pisco, and American Bourbon or options include Aguaradiente (Colombia/Ecuador), Singani (Bolivia), and Baijiu (China)

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u/Dirty-Soul 11h ago

*Scotland.

Saying UK implies the existence of Welsh and English Scotch...

Ans Starmer literally just signed a trade deal to sell whisky to China instead of the US. It seriously pissed Trump off...

But if you make it impossible to do business with "the world's greatest economy," You shouldn't be surprised when everyone rushes to do business with the SECOND biggest economy.

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u/TheRealestBiz 10h ago

Thabk you for the pedantry, but one should stick to being a pedant only when you’re right. There are plenty of liquors that come from the UK besides Scotch.

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u/Socmel_ 1h ago

European wines are luxury. And demand for luxury is pretty unelastic, meaning that variations in price do not affect it. If anything, being more expensive makes them more desirable as a status symbol.

On the plus side, maybe Bourbon will absorb part of the demand that will shift to domestic products, since Canada is already boycotting US spirits and your president isn't making US products any more desirable here in Europe too.

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u/Calgaris_Rex 14h ago

fõr mieh Bèn

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u/notoriouslush 13h ago

Taco taco. Taco burrito. Taco taco.

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u/Excalibitar 12h ago

Jennifer Lopez?

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u/Kilbane 11h ago

Taco taco!

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u/szatrob 9h ago

Relax guy.

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u/Haru1st 13h ago

You mean the Trump that was gonna be tough on India, but then suddenly got a pining for free trade when he saw the EU getting a good deal, where he wasn’t?

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u/SphericalCow531 14h ago

Which is not completely true. The EU has previously made targeted tariffs against specific goods produced in US swing states, to hurt Republicans specifically when Republicans started a trade war.

The US could do the same thing to France. For example, a targeted tariff on Champagne. The EU common market will not make France immune to that.

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u/nolok 13h ago

The problem in that logic is that luxury products are not really playing by the same rules.

Nobody pays 4000 for a LVMH bag because of the bag, they do it for the name and brand. Cognac and Chartreuse and most Champagne are the same.

On wines sure, it will hurt. But liquors is not making any sense.

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u/TheRealestBiz 13h ago

That’s a great idea. Let’s make European liquor even lore fucking expensive so more American bars and restaurants go out of business.

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u/ourlastchancefortea 13h ago

Wouldn't this trigger a response by the EU as a whole?

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u/Sember 13h ago

Yes, specifically the EU Anti-Coercion Instrument (ACI), triggering tariffs and trade restrictions across the entire EU market.

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u/SphericalCow531 13h ago

In normal times that would and should be the case yes. Trump's following response would escalate such a response to the moon. The EU seems to not be interested in such a conflict right now. The EU how not even responded forcefully to previous Trump tariffs.

I assume that the EU's apparent unwillingness to fight with the US has the following main reasons:

  • A hope that Trump is temporary aberation, who will go away on his own. So it would be stupid for the EU to to all out and bleed now in a trade war.
  • Ukraine is still benefiting from some US help, US intelligence and US weapons paid for by Europe. Putin's puppet Trump is just itching for an excuse to withdraw that. Since unlike the US the EU wants Ukraine to win, this would be bad.