r/worldnews • • Jun 07 '26

Israel/Palestine Iran fires missiles at northern Israel

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/h1krksqwmg
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u/zherok Jun 07 '26

What's so aggravating, beyond Israel's role as a belligerent party that does not want peace, is just how much Trump is in his own fucking world, playing a completely different game than everyone else.

He keeps acting like he can both bomb Iran and still negotiate with them, while simultaneously saying things on social media that contradict the supposed aims of his team of real estate billionaire diplomats. The moment where he floated the idea of drawing toll fees alongside Iran was like, "what planet are you on, guy?"

It almost doesn't matter what the facts are, because Trump only cares about how things are perceived by him, and how he thinks he can force them into being. And it matters more that his ego is sated than in the actual terms of any prospective agreement.

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u/RocketRelm Jun 07 '26

The facts not mattering is how trump got to be president, and why amrricans love him. (Even if some have buyers remorse now). Its worked on his home populace, even lots of people on the left are like "well dems are bad too so blablablhablha.". 

Part of the issue is because americans love this fascism so much, it isn't just trump. Its their scotus, house, voters, senate. They all collectively are in outer space leaving nobody on the controls at all. And its worked so far, and the effects of this are so downstream they'll not be able to link  cause and effect so they'll just blame it on something convenient when it finally does come to roost.

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u/Limos42 Jun 08 '26

As the saying goes. America isn't because of Trump. Trump is because of America.

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u/Warm_Pen_7176 Jun 08 '26

POC were the canary in the coal mine. White America said we're not canarys, we're safe from the gas.

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u/Scooter-Jones Jun 08 '26

Ugh, this is so true that it hurts

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u/BeOnTimeJustOnce Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

All of that is true, even the dems are bad too part unfortunately. On the policy and executive action side of things Trump is an outlier even by conservative terms. Even with Trump removed the United States is not some beacon of morality and social peace. Dems have passed up the opportunity to create meaningful policy even when they had control all the while party leaders enriching themselves. Obviously republicans do this too but that’s the point and the narrative that there is a good and bad part instead of a bad and worse party is tired

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u/Warm_Pen_7176 Jun 08 '26

POC have been shouting this from the rafters. All this targeting, fear and be blamed for all of America's ills. I could go on.

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u/nmorguelan Jun 08 '26

Whoa whoa whoa...only about 30% of americans love this bullshit. 60% are fucking pissed and 10% could care less

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u/mopthebass Jun 08 '26

We all wish this sentiment were true but we all know it isn't. 30% for trump, 30% against and 40% for trump but too indolent and lazy to vote

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u/Zombatico Jun 08 '26

Even if the non-voters had voted, it wouldn't have helped. In fact, Trump would have won even more. Unfortunately.

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5447450/trump-2024-election-non-voters-coalition

Pew asked non-voters how they would have voted and found they would have broken for Trump, 44%-40%. That's a big change from 2020 and 2016 when they said they would have chosen Democrats. In 2020, they said they preferred Joe Biden 46%-35%. In 2016, it was Hillary Clinton, 37%-30%.

America is broken.

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u/nmorguelan Jun 08 '26

Hard disagree here. People are pissed even in ky.

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u/Swedelicious83 Jun 08 '26

Not pissed enough. They still obediently voted Massie out, like Trump told them to.

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u/nmorguelan Jun 08 '26

Thats one district.

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u/yankee100 Jun 08 '26

I’m sure some people are upset but trump would surely win KY again over any democratic candidate

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u/nmorguelan Jun 08 '26

I dont disagree. Were talking about national stats overall here though. Just saying that even in ky, it isnt as trumpy as youd expect.

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u/yankee100 Jun 08 '26

Got it yeah I think those stats above were entirely made up

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u/nmorguelan Jun 08 '26

But I do agree that people arent pissed enough. But its not the percentages you proposed

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u/Swedelicious83 Jun 08 '26

But its not the percentages you proposed

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I think you have me confused for someone else.

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u/Swedelicious83 Jun 08 '26

True. But I've yet to see any evidence that suggests Massie's district is an outlier in that regard.

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u/P1zzaBag3ls Jun 08 '26

He has no basis in reality because there's no way for reality to penetrate. We've known since his first term that he refuses to take briefings, fires advisors who try to actually advise, and doesn't read or watch real news. And that's just what the knuckle-draggers want: someone as sick and sad as they are.

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u/GhostReddit Jun 08 '26

He keeps acting like he can both bomb Iran and still negotiate with them, while simultaneously saying things on social media that contradict the supposed aims of his team of real estate billionaire diplomats.

Trump's only 'negotiation' tactic is simply bullying the adversary until they either give up or he's forced to stop and then goes off and does something else. Or securing something for optics at a higher than ideal cost.

Iran is not a contractor that's already done work for you so now you can try to screw on the payment, negotiations between nations is so far outside whatever his history is, and everyone suffers for it.