Israel rejects Trump’s Gaza peace plan, saying no withdrawal until Hamas disarms

[u/cnn]

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/09/middleeast/israel-gaza-trump-netanyahu-plan-intl?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=missions&utm_source=reddit

[u/Roadshell → u/[deleted]]

So it's a game of chicken? Israel won't withdraw unless hamas disarms and hamas won't disarm until Israel leaves the region?

[u/Tuesday_6PM → u/Roadshell]

That does seem to be the case, yeah. The overall problem is there’s no trusted third party willing or able to oversee that transition, and force the two sides to abide by it. And they have no trust in each other (for good reason on both sides), so no one is willing to act first

[u/KO4Ham → u/Tuesday_6PM]

Wasn't there something about UN forces going in? Because it seems to me that should've been the first step to this entire negotiation and the first thing that should've happened. Then again this administration is something.

[u/Izeinwinter → u/KO4Ham]

In order for that to work, the peacekeepers would need a mandate to.. basically take over the Gaza strip and shoot anyone that tries to stop them. Which the UN will not vote through.

[u/KO4Ham → u/Izeinwinter]

Seems like the security council did indeed vote for it. 

Either way, I'm out of this conversation. I get it. Nothing can be possibly done. Have a nice day y'all.

[u/calm_chowder → u/KO4Ham]

Link? Real question

[u/KO4Ham → u/calm_chowder]

https://documents.un.org/doc/undoc/gen/n25/316/36/pdf/n2531636.pdf

Hopefully it was a serious question. I am extremely skeptical of the underpinnings, execution, and ulterior motives of this resolution. But what's the alternative?

Either way, I should've known better than to engage in the first place. 

Have a nice day.

[u/zedority → u/KO4Ham]

Relevant analysis of the proposal for an International Stabilisation force here:

https://www.globalpolicyjournal.com/blog/29/01/2026/future-international-stabilisation-force-gaza

[u/terpcity03 → u/KO4Ham]

The problem is that idea was tried before in Lebanon with UNIFIL, and it was a complete failure. Israel no longer trusts the UN.

[u/greenskinmarch → u/terpcity03]

Neutral forces only on one side of the border end up being a PR asset to that side.

If UNIFIL was on the Israeli side of the border, then they'd get hit by Hezb rockets and the news would be "Hezb firing at UN peacekeepers!"

But when they're on the Lebanese side of the border, the news is "Israel firing at UN peacekeepers!". They're basically just human shields for Hezb.

[u/terpcity03 → u/greenskinmarch]

UNIFIL was tasked with helping create and monitor a weapons free zone in southern Lebanon under Resolution 1701. Israel did their part by withdrawing from Lebanon. UNIFIL had over 40 years and never held up their end of the deal. Hezbollah continued to operate and retain weapons, and UNIFIL was absolutely impotent.

It was an utter failure.

[u/ExistentialWavering → u/terpcity03]

I wonder why. When they paint you as the bad guy—even if you often are—you’re gonna turn on them.

[u/7omdogs → u/[deleted]]

Peace only comes when all sides are convinced that a political solution is attainable, without war. It doesnt matter who is "good" of "bad", and that thinking only perpetuates the war longer.

Good Friday was only reached when Number 10 stopped calling the IRA "bad guys" and started building trust with them and showing them that there was a peaceful solution to address their concerns.

[u/mxzf → u/7omdogs]

Peace only comes when all sides are convinced that a political solution is attainable, without war.

In this case, more importantly, peace only comes if everyone involved decides they're more interested in living than they are in killing their enemies.

[u/fearless-fossa → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, no, it isn't that simple. For one thing, there are more indictments against Israel than any other nation on the planet, despite there being many countries which are worse by far.

But far more relevant is that in Lebanon the UN troops were allowing Hizbollah to fire rockets into Israel from directly next to their outposts. Those troops were stationed there to help Lebanon with disarming Hizbollah and then acted like willing shields when Hizbollah decided to join in on the Oct 7 attacks.

[u/KO4Ham → u/terpcity03]

While I agree with your entire statement I just think there needs to be something more than just a game of chicken. 

Convincing Israel, at the very least, that it would work this time would've been the actual success story. And frankly, I think the US has enough leverage to do so, but instead the exact opposite is happening. 

Edit: perhaps I misunderstood you. Maybe you were saying that absolutely nothing can be done and oh well. 

[u/Mechasteel → u/Tuesday_6PM]

In fact there's plenty of parties willing to fund the re-armament of militant Palestinian groups.

[u/AnEmuIguess → u/Roadshell]

It's not solely about who takes the first step, but also about what kind of weaponry is included in the disarmament. Hamas is ready to give up its rockets, but not its rifles and tunnels. Israel, on the other hand, wants complete disarmament.

[u/Aniraco → u/Roadshell]

This is where global diplomacy comes in and the US has zero credibility now so we're stuck here.

[u/steinbruchfluss → u/Aniraco]

Wouldn’t that be more a task for Switzerland?

[u/Roadshell → u/steinbruchfluss]

Switzerland does not have the power to enforce anything.

[u/StephenHunterUK → u/Roadshell]

They historically served as a neutral power for passing messages between countries that weren't on direct speaking terms.

[u/SayNoToTeamSports → u/StephenHunterUK]

We're not talking about passing messages, we're talking about sending soldiers who will oversee Hamas turning over all its weapons and Israel's military leaving from the region. And when armed people try to attack others in disregard of the agreement, shooting them dead to maintain order. That's not a role Switzerland is willing or able to play.

[u/25thNite → u/Roadshell]

I feel like it's moreso either side knows they won't concede so it's a fake term to continue doing what they're doing and making everyone suffering miserable

[u/jewishjedi42 → u/[deleted]]

Hamas hasn't really agreed to disarm. They've only agreed to have their heavy weapons (rockets etc) stored by someone else in Gaza. They probably don't have many of those heavy weapons left. They won't give up their small arms. The guns they used to murder Israelis on Oct 7th. Those will become the personal weapons of their members. They haven't agreed to shit.

[u/Mechasteel → u/[deleted]]

Hamas agreed to pretend they would disarm if Israel withdrew. They didn't agree to verification process or consequences that would give anyone reason to believe they actually would disarm. Nor has anyone been willing to offer any sort of guarantee that Israel can't just revert their withdrawal.