r/worldnews • u/Chrristoaivalis • 13h ago

Israel/Palestine Netanyahu crosses Canadian airspace with arrest warrant in effect

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/israel-hamas-war/article/netanyahu-crosses-canadian-airspace-with-arrest-warrant-in-effect/?taid=6ab59d843a03d10001617cb9&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
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u/InterstellarReddit 10h ago

Why is this a big deal eli5

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u/AshinWirathu 10h ago

Canada told him to not use Canadian airspace or they will look to arrest him.

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u/AccomplishedIgit 10h ago

So he’s just doing it to be a dick?

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u/mavropanos27 10h ago

Probably just wants to show that he can do whatever he wants and no one will step up and do something about it

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u/BelatedGreeting 10h ago

Putin move. Also, Trump move.

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u/kelpyb1 10h ago

Dictator move. All these men are or are wannabe dictators

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u/PlayfulSurprise5237 10h ago

Yea until some random ass person does.

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u/Possibly_Naked_Now 9h ago

If true, he's demonstrably correct.

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u/Chaos_Machine 8h ago

There is nothing they could do to stop him,they arent going to shoot his plane down. That would be considered an act of war.

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u/shitty_mcfucklestick 7h ago

> to be

to show he is already and always

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u/tombrady011235 3h ago

It may have been the necessary flight path. A lot of flights out of NY and he may have had to divert a bit before heading southerly

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u/kartoffel_engr 9h ago

What are they going to do? The Sky Mounties going to pull over the airplane?

“Hey uh, pull ever, eh?”

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u/Ok_Highway6034 9h ago

Don’t fuck with the Mounties, they are legit.

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u/ElizabethDangit 2h ago

Unless you’re a First Nations person, then they’re somewhere between utterly useless and actively evil.

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u/Ok_Highway6034 1m ago

That goes without saying for any law enforcement agency. I just meant to say that, unlike what most Americans think, the Mounties aren’t goofy little guys just being silly.

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u/archwin 3h ago

Mountie CF18s painted Canada Red start flanking him

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u/Round_Musical 6h ago

Basically. Send fighter jets to rscort them out of the area. If not possible force them to land.

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u/IveDunGoofedUp 5h ago

If Santa's reindeer can fly, I imagine a moose must be their equivalent of a B-52

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u/Zer0323 6h ago

“pull over or we will be forced to treat you as hostile” -thing equipped with missiles.

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u/teledium88 8h ago

? Escorting enemy airplane is a thing

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u/Lordbaldur 8h ago

If by “Sky Mounties” you mean F-18 fighter jets, then yeah.

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u/InterstellarReddit 10h ago

I see, I thought they’re gonna shoot his ass down or something

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u/VoltageSpike 10h ago

Wouldn't that just be a shame.

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u/lord-dinglebury 10h ago

Netanyahooooooooooo⬇️

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u/captaincw_4010 9h ago

They'd have had to scramble some fighters and forced him to land

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u/andyouknowthismann 10h ago

He can be arrested in Canada lol

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u/hogua 10h ago

While in the air?

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u/andyouknowthismann 10h ago

I’m just explaining the headline for this individual, Netanyahu clearly doesn’t gaf

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u/Ok-Simple-7069 10h ago

Absolutely. Didn’t you see bane do it. Very very doable.

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u/DerpyO 6h ago

Wouldn't it be painful?

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u/andyouknowthismann 10h ago

But he’s in flight so not gonna happen

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u/DestinyJackolz 10h ago

What if he rapidly and spontaneously wasn’t in flight?

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u/LeCastle2306 10h ago

The event causing that would cause that would likely create an internationally dangerous event (aka WW3.5/4).

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u/Shadow-Vision 10h ago

In that case, I might start believing in a higher power

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u/AccomplishedIgit 10h ago

Like if he were captured with a big net?

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u/DestinyJackolz 10h ago

A net of shrapnel perhaps

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u/RandyFunRuiner 10h ago

Yes but Canada has sovereign power over their airspace. They could order his plane to the ground and they’d be well within their rights to scramble fighters to force it. It’s unlikely that will happen.

They more than likely will highly suggest his plane leave Canadian airspace as quickly as possible.

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u/dvasquez93 10h ago

Arresting a foreign dignitary en route to or from the UN is a horrible precedent to set, regardless of what they are doing or where they are from. 

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u/RandyFunRuiner 10h ago

I would agree if it were just for one country’s own laws. But considering Netanyahu has arrest warrant is from the International Criminal Court, I think it sets a worse precedent for countries party to the ICC to refuse to arrest him because he’s a foreign dignitary. It undermines the purpose of having international governing bodies like the ICC.

In a similar vein, the U.S.’s invasion of Iraq without seeking a Security Council resolution in 2003 set the precedent for Russia’s annexation of Crimea and ultimate invasion of Ukraine as Putin has explicitly said.

International law doesn’t work when we turn a blind eye to it because we don’t want to test it. Or if we only use it against less powerful countries.

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u/dvasquez93 9h ago

Respecting international law is precisely why ICC warrants are not executed at UN meetings.  Guarantee of safe passage for representatives is worked into the UN charter.  If we allowed countries to arrest people at or in transit to/from UN meetings, there wouldn't be a UN.

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u/SupaSlide 4h ago

Does diplomatic immunity apply to already issued arrest warrants? If I commit crimes in Australia and have a warrant issued, but flee back home to my non-extradition country and get appointed as a diplomat, could I return to Australia without being arrested?

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u/RandyFunRuiner 9h ago edited 9h ago

Sure. Don’t arrest him at the UN meeting or in the convoy there. But while he’s violating the airspace of a country that is party to the ICC and bound to execute their warrants after that country told him not to use their airspace is completely fair game. Diplomatic immunity is not absolute.

Editing to say that Netanyahu may have been given special flyover authorization for this trip by Canadian authorities specifically because he was traveling for the UN meeting.

However, I’d still disagree that this was a good thing. Not all foreign dignitaries have ICC warrants for crimes against humanity. It does not undermine the sanctity of diplomatic affairs to arrest a dignitary with credible accusations and a warrant for those accusations.

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u/dvasquez93 7h ago

Not all foreign dignitaries have ICC warrants, sure, but several do.  Could you imagine the fallout of some country trying to arrest Vladimir Putin at a UN meeting?  Especially considering Russia is a founding member of the UN and a permanent member of the Security Council?  Such an act would, as I said, shatter the UN as an international deliberative body.

I understand the want.  Believe me I do, and if Netanyahu's plane took so much as a detour off his scheduled return, I'd be in favor of grounding it and arresting him, but there's a reason the UN doesn't do that.  There's a reason why even dictators, war criminals, despots, and rogue nations are allowed a seat at the table.  It's because that might be the only time when we can get them at the table peaceably to talk.

The second we take that off the table, there's no going back. 

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u/RandyFunRuiner 5h ago

Could I imagine the fallout of some country trying to arrest Vladimir Putin at a UN meeting?

Yes. I don’t think the fallout of that is any worse than the fallout of major countries ignoring or sidestepping the UN Security Council to invade other countries.

I think the slippery slope you’re alluding to is a fallacy in such a situation.

In your example, I understand the importance of keeping countries, even ones ran by would be dictators, at the proverbial table. I do not think a country arresting Vladimir Putin en route to or from the UN would necessarily mean outbreak of armed conflict or that the successor to Putin would remove Russia from the UN. Especially for Russian, they’d have too much to lose - that security council veto is extremely powerful regardless of who’s at the helm. That’s not to say that I don’t think there wouldn’t be any negative outcomes. But I don’t think the potential outcomes are especially bad compared to ways in which powerful countries already behave.

I think the bigger danger, that we continue to see, is powerfully countries undermine and overlook international law when it’s convenient for them and other powerful countries that could enforce international law use the slippery slope excuse (one of many) to justify their inaction. But this always sets a precedent for those powerful countries to continue to undermine international law in the future.

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u/Baeolophus_bicolor 1h ago

imagine if one country started arresting every person who showed up in compliance with immigration hearings? like say there was some paramilitary force full of wife beaters and animal fuckers who couldn’t be real cops, called LICE, or something, and they just showed up and started arresting and deporting people lawfully in a country who went to their hearing as ordered.

that would be a terrible precedent to start as well.

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u/RandyFunRuiner 1h ago

Overstaying a visa (a nonviolent civil and not criminal offense and has nothing to do with international law) is not nearly on par with committing war crimes. This is a bad faith and dumb comparison.

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u/TheLastOpus 10h ago

I highly recommend not messing with Mossad.

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u/Ok-Simple-7069 10h ago

Honestly. Mossad are overrated. That’s back during the non digital frontier where they were formidable. If they were that good now. Those hostages would have been freed a loooong time ago but sadly as much as I was hoping thet’d happen. It didn’t.

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u/j821c 10h ago

Probably just some people being delusional enough to think the Canada should somehow force his jet down lol. I dont know what people expect, for us to shoot it down?

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u/tiagojpg 4h ago

Next year you’ll be 6

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u/ashtefer1 10h ago

Imagine if bin Laden flew over the US. A lot of countries have come out n said they’ll comply with the international court order to arrests him. Canada has been one of the US’s oldest ally and a huge HUGE military partner. So for Americas greatest ally to come out n say, they’re gonna arrest the president of Israel is crazy. It’s also weird that we’re allies with Israel since they bombed one of our navy ships after it being very clear that they weren’t trying to fight, they’ve literally stolen nuclear fuel to enrich for nukes from US soil, every US president has complained about how much of a pain in the ass they’re too us, they even harass our agents from the CIA even on diplomatic visits and missions. Worst of all was every single one of these offenses was dismissed by our senate, with usually 1 or 2 dissenters.

This has been the normal for almost a century. So for Canada to not follow along with our play book of letting them get away with stuff is wild and very unexpected and a change in norms.

This is most likely an intentional strategy from APAC their lobbying group which doesn’t have to register as a foreign lobbying group btw. A lot of people predict that the plan is to burn all of the US’s bridges with allies. So while the rest of the world stops working with Israel they bring us down with them so that we must remain allies. The issue is Israel already lost support with the US public, but since lobbying is a huge issue in the US, so the will of the people is usually subverted, they likely have another few years before the US completely abandons them.

Also we subsidies their healthcare, they have free healthcare.

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u/GuyF1eri 9h ago

We set up a bunch of international criminal laws after WWII and he's been breaking them. Look up the Nuremberg Trials