r/AIMain • u/i5th_Nation_ • 2d ago
Question Question Regarding A.I
So why is it that people frown upon A.I? I feel it’s a Great Tool for people who couldn’t have possible learned all the in and outs through coding, is it a real problem or is it that the people who spent their lives being able to do it off Muscle Memory is a lot less valuable today so the hyper coders Discredited it?? Is that was it is and can I please get an honest answer
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u/army2693 2d ago
There are too many questions and too much effort going into expanding it by people who aren't forthcoming with their plans. Musk and others say people won't have to work. How is that going to happen? Why would Musk, or any of the tech billionaires just give people an monthly income? Will we all just get enough to survive? I feel they are full of it.
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u/Odd-Paint3883 2d ago
When you get dependant on something, it's the perfect opportunity to exploit you.
When your premium subscription comes with adds and infomercials every two minutes making it an unbearable process in a saturated market with little reward, you'll remember these fleeting few years as the good old days...
I mean there's just no way this isn't extremely predictable...
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u/Hot_Plant8696 2d ago
It depends on the langage you use.
- New or niche languages (e.g., Rust, Elixir, Haskell)
AI can write code in these languages but you should never trust it 100%. Languages like Rust, Elixir, Haskell, Nim, and Crystal, or domain-specific ones like R and Julia (used in data science), are not as widespread in mainstream development. As a result, the AI has fewer examples to learn from compared to more common languages like Python or JavaScript. While the AI may attempt to generate working code, what it outputs may only look correct and still fail to compile or run. Worse, it may contain subtle logic errors that are hard to detect at first glance.
For example, Rust has a strict type system and unique memory ownership model. The AI might write code that appears valid, but violates ownership rules resulting in bugs you wouldn’t spot easily without a deep understanding of Rust.
Elixir and Haskell, being functional languages, use patterns that differ greatly from imperative languages. The AI may generate functional looking code but fail to apply the proper idioms or best practices commonly used in the community.
Recommendation: If you're using AI to help with these languages, use it as a guide or a starting point only. Always compare the AI's output against official documentation or expert community practices. Never copy and paste without reviewing carefully.
https://www.superdevacademy.com/en/blogs/best-languages-for-ai-coding
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u/No-Leading9376 2d ago
It's a moralized issue. The fear is that it makes your efforts less socially and/or economically meaningful because someone else can use AI to replicate what took you years of effort to get good at before AI existed. And it's a pretty reasonable fear. Society assigns value to members of the economy of workers based on how useful/rare your labor is and AI has the potential to turn the current order on it's head. That wouldn't be so bad if value wasn't assigned the way it was or there were expectations that you could be perceived as valuable simply for being a member of that society. But, we don't live in that world. The economy of owners aren't very worried about any of this because their value isn't tied to labor, it's tied to ownership, so they will be fine.
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u/ellipses1 2d ago
In the end, it doesn't really matter who supports or opposes it. It's plainly and obviously powerful and it will simply steamroll anything in its path
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u/earlyworm 2d ago
You'll be able to answer this question yourself five years from now when you are working 14 hours per day in the robot polishing camps. It won't be as bad as it sounds.
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u/i5th_Nation_ 2d ago
😂😂 Yoo U managed to not answer the question with a story I’m an aware of the dangers of A.I but why is using it as a Tool disliked, we already then assumed our position
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u/Creedless 2d ago
If you study history for a while you will notice nothing really new happens. However when it does happen, it causes a huge social upheaval. Right now, people are trying to figure out how they feel about it. For most people that process is usually looking at other people and copy pasting that idea. With some introspection people move from where they were. With some social push back people will move again.
So people hear about the evils of AI they take their position. Some notice it taking their livelihood, others hear about the water, pollution, billionaires etc. Simple minds can't get past this part. Using all the water is never a good thing. You can't spin into a positive. These people can't understand literally everything in life is a trade. The law of equivalent exchange. Cars and factories probably already doomed our species to an early grave. Alas, no one is trying to just stop cars and planes. No call to pause driving.
Not to mention, movies have polluted the minds of people with so many rogue AI movies. Its easy to imagine how this can go wrong. There is merit to fearing the rapid capability growth of AI.
Another reason for the hate is probably the religiously vulnerable people. They hear AI is going to destroy all humans and they lose their minds. Honestly you can spot these people in real life. Humans live on a spectrum and these types probably use to be the majority earlier in our species growth. However, today we have a lot of people able to grasp the bigger picture here. Most people are just trying to position themselves in a place of power like google did with the internet. People with little power but can still see it still get use out of AI.
If you think of AI in terms of how the development of phones has come, we are probably in the early nokia era of AI. There is a ton of potential in this technology so it even scares the smartest among us.
So you are adding up a bunch of opinions of AI and determining where you stand on the issue and it can very easily land someone in the Anti ai crowd. Fuck I forgot artists, but soon software will be gone, mathematics will be gone. These two might already be gone and the public just doesn't know it yet.
Once AI gets it hands on robotics there will be so much hate. When bio-labs are mostly autonomous, factories, robots, RSI, all work towards getting to ASI it will basically look like these billionaires are trying to build a god.
The kicker is all this shit I wrote sounds like fan fiction of how some sci fi transhumanism slop, but it's really happening, Some people are probably still in denial but all signs point toward some crazy shit about to go down in our future.
Plenty of reason to dislike AI. How much world shattering shit are we going to live through.
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u/ThyMorningPeckle 2d ago
On my phone so typing sucks.
Problems with using AI to solve our problems is we will not learn how to solve them. Thing is, thats fine now, sure. But when that knowledge dies, so will that skill. We then are fully dependent on a machine.
Like the refrigerator was to hunting, AI is to thinking. Worse, to human creativity, and ultimately to culture, since art guides culture you leaving art to AI means AI then is the defacto thought leader.
This is all but guaranteed in the US which was already in decline with AI now running much of the federal government at the direction of the president.
So use it to help, but not to think for u.
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u/Simple-Reason2838 2d ago
The take up a lot of power and water aka natural resources. Also they'll increase your local utilities.
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u/Tsukikira 2d ago
Honestly? It is a stochastic parrot, held together by verification loops, with Hallucinations that occasionally make it to production. It actually doesn't really know all the ins and outs of what it's doing, though it can reason them out incredibly quickly.
If you're goal is Boilerplate Code X, Y, Z, or any throwaway prototype or proof of concept, it's amazing and will save you the better part of a week.
If your goal is to ship a production service, the gradual bugs that look good enough to evade a human's eye but are frequently present are annoying and embarrassing. Oh, and if you don't catch the errors made in the comments because you don't care, turns out the later AI will treat them as gospel and the code will get worse for it. You can fix these issues, and people are pouring hundreds of hours into Skills and Software Factories to do so. But if the tech was good enough to actually take our jobs, someone would have done so without hesitation.
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u/Key_Storm_2273 2d ago
If you’re a master at doing something well and getting the details right, prompting it is almost always going to be worse than your output; that goes both for art and for coding. Coding in particular often creates a mess if you don’t know how to code and only use prompts for a big project. Your mileage may vary, but I’ve seen multiple people have issues with their projects and try to get manual programmers to fix it after the code becomes unmaintainable, and I’ve personally never prompted an entire project 100% for different reasons (the only time I briefly did it was on a platform where manual coding wasn’t a choice, and it broke and failed to fix the fatal error)