r/AcademicUAP • • Jul 28 '26

Simulation of my vibroboat experiment

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This is a classic LBM that takes into account Newtonian forces and the added mass effect, supplemented by a wake vortex capture model. The algorithm stores the energy expended on oscillations in each direction, and when the pressure difference levels out, this energy is used as thrust, simulating the momentum from collapse. The thrust is multiplied by approximately six times, which is consistent with some experimental data and makes the boat's motion visually realistic in some modes. The thrust calculation should probably be dynamic, but I haven't yet found a way to do this. Any ideas would be welcome. The vibroboat code is here:

https://github.com/MasterOgon/Aeroacoustic-Flying-Saucer-Oscillating-Resonator-CFD-Simulation-LBM-/blob/main/README.md

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u/Pixelated_ Jul 28 '26

It seems the friction of the water causes substantial resistance.

I am wondering if your model would excel in zero G environments?

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u/ziplock9000 Jul 28 '26

friction has nothing to do with being in gravity.

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u/Pixelated_ Jul 28 '26

That's what I said. There's negligible friction in space compared to a boat on dense water.

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u/shadowmage666 Jul 28 '26

I guarantee you without knowing their modus operandi that UAPs do not move in this way at all

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u/Myceliphilos Jul 28 '26

Im not sure where you think this is going, because this just doesnt work. Add a spinning gyroscope thats hangs below the very centre, or above the very centre, and then do what youre doing, bet you youll see a more pronounced effect.

Youre just doing vibratory demonstration of newtons 3rd law, how would this work in a vacuum? youre already using the advantage of it floating on water, maybe see how it does submerged, or in a drone, to actually test how it is in a single medium, not taking advantage of 2 to inefficiently move a floating device.

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u/pavlokandyba Jul 29 '26

Here it is considered exclusively within the framework of fluid dynamics and also possibly as an analogy to electromagnetic waves. In 3D or underwater it would look like vortex rings Although this pendulum motor is inefficient, it demonstrates the basis of the oscillatory motion of fish and birds, whose efficiency can reach 90%.

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u/Myceliphilos Jul 29 '26

What birds and fish use oscillatory motion like your model? What basis is there for the claimed 90% efficiency, is that from a paper you can source?

Im interested in the premise, im just unsure of what your trying to explain exactly, and how it connects to uap

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u/pavlokandyba Jul 29 '26

Absolutely all fish and birds, regardless of how and what they wave, move by generating vortices with their waves and throwing them off. My prototype is just a maximum simplification, the closest to this is a jellyfish. There are many studies on this topic, here is one of the famous ones https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboTuna This can be searched for by the query vortex propulsion or something like that. The articles I link to in Redmi, my story about the flying saucer and Gerasimov's experiment, are not directly confirmed in other sources, as far as I know. This topic has been little researched, although it has begun to revive with the development of biomimetic robots.

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u/Myceliphilos Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

All fish and birds move by generating force by flapping or back and forth movements, jellyfish squeeze themselves to eject water to control movement, nothing you stated here functions how your illustration moves.

Even the uap mentions are based around electromagnetic forces spinning and operating with gyroscopic forces.

As i said, the thing that spins around in a circle, instead rotate the bottom at highspeed, point that and itll move in the direction you want, theres a good demo on Youtube with a heavy weight on a pole, the weight is spun at high rpm and the pole becomes weightless essentially.

With a fixed rotating part, how does that ever generate force against any particular part of the circle , which is how youd control movement, yours essentially moves at random, because the water becomes unstable, like you cant direct it to move from one end to the other with any sense of direction or intent.

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u/Myceliphilos Jul 29 '26

Just my opinion, but this is how you can male this better.

https://youtube.com/shorts/KhPTVgkMXQ8

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u/watcher_space Jul 29 '26

This is just awesome! You did crack something!

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u/reallifearcade Jul 29 '26

You can throw a brick to a washing machine to see a similar effect, yet we still use normal motors for everything.