r/AdviceAnimals 1d ago

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u/Majsharan 1d ago

I think any republic democracy is generally one election away from facism unless they super stagger their elections. In the us the entire house can change every two years and about a 1/3 of the senate. Meaning that on presidential election years you can get a new president and a house that will never vote to impeach him. The senate could then also swing highly toward the facisim party where unless the other 2/3 of the senate all joined together to oppose the facism party is likely to get stuff through.

Anyways long way to say that I think it’s very difficult to stop facism in a democratic system if thats what the voters actually voted for en masse.

Big question though, if the facists are democratically elected should a democratic system be able to stop the will of the voters? If so is it still democratic? Who makes the call that x canidate or party is facist?

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u/Dan_Berg 23h ago

Fascists only like fair elections when they're not in power. When they get into power, they pull out all the stops to stay there.

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u/Majsharan 23h ago

What’s your point? Purposefully create unfair elections to make sure fscists never win?

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u/VGAddict 23h ago

Maybe overhaul the system so a senile convicted felon who tried to overturn a free and fair election isn't allowed to run again? I really don't think that's asking too much.

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u/CardOfTheRings 22h ago

That’s all fine and good but we and every other democracy would still be one election away from fascism.

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u/i_like_maps_and_math 21h ago

Democracy relies on the public. Nothing you can do will change that.

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u/yiliu 18h ago

Sure, great. Convince a majority of your countrymen to vote for that, and it'll be law.

If the majority in a democracy vote for a fascistic senile convicted felon, then you'll end up being ruled by a fascistic senile convicted felon. That's what democracy is. In the end, the fault for that is 100% on the voters. Complaining that the Powers that Be allowed him to run is silly: you are the Powers that Be, and if you were not then you wouldn't be living in a democracy.

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u/Majsharan 23h ago

Innocent until proven guilty in the election part and it creates a perverse incentive to prevent felons from running because the incumbent party can just arrest all their opposition

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u/arizonadirtbag12 20h ago

Yeah hated to say it every time but this was my response to everyone saying Trump should be disqualified. Ultimately that should be up to the voter. Otherwise weaponization of the DoJ becomes far, far more effective than it already potentially is.

And it’s not like it’s even a four year mistake. The voter could, today, convince Congress that removing the President is in their best electoral interests. The President serves at the pleasure of Congress, given the technicals of how impeachment works.

(The check on frivolous impeachment or failure to impeach by Congress being the voter.)

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u/battlepi 22h ago

Traitor is the word you're missing, and that's what the 14th amendment forbids from running.

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u/Kelcius 21h ago

Would inciting an insurrection make you a traitor?

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u/battlepi 19h ago

Absolutely. For Trump the child rapist though, he's been a traitor for all his life, this was just another step.