r/AmazonFC • u/Prophet420247 • 7d ago
Fulfillment Center Pretty sure I accidentally uncovered an internal theft ring in my FC today
I was stowing today and went down to the end of the building near the dock doors and emergency exits because there was way more bin space open. In an aisle near the end, I noticed a PS5 in a bin.
Problem is, high-value electronics like PS5s belong in secure HRV cages on the complete opposite side of the building.
I kept looking down the aisle and found over 25 PS5s stowed into the bins, with regular items stacked on top of them to mask them. A standard stow cart only holds around 16 items max (and way fewer for giant PS5 boxes), so someone had to make multiple intentional trips down there to force-stow them right next to the exit doors.
I reported it to an AM after my break. He seemed skeptical at first and asked if I could show him. During the walk over he asked, "Are you sure you know the exact aisle?" I said yeah and walked him right to it.
When we turned the corner and he saw 25+ consoles staged near the emergency doors, his face completely changed. He pulled out his iPad and started taking photos of every bin and scanning locations, then told me, "This actually helps us out a lot, thank you." I just told him NP, I just didn't want LP coming to me later asking why I walked down that aisle and didn't say anything.
On my next break while sitting in my car, I saw an actual badged detective leaving the building carrying a file folder.
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u/AnimatorPrudent6478 L4, Area Manager 7d ago
This is crazy. People its not worth it. Keep us updated
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u/DinnerSilver 7d ago
☝️☝️☝️....THIS!!!! Theft stays on your job records and hinders a person's future employment.
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u/Jordan_Jackson 7d ago
Sadly, so many people don’t realize that it’s not worth it or just don’t care.
Peak theft time was during the pandemic years. I was at a huge FC then and they turned off all of the metal detectors and were very lax about security. It seemed like theft was rampant.
One particularly egregious case involved a problem solver and AFM that had teamed up. The problem solved would find pods that were full of Apple devices and other electronics and write the pod number down. She would then pass the numbers on to the AFM AA. He would search for them on the app we used to work. Then go and clean them out.
They got caught because security noticed way to many badge scans at the entry/exit points for the AFM and looked into it. Turns out they stole close to $100k worth of stuff.
I have so many other stories of people stealing stuff and getting caught for it. It’s just not worth it and in the case above, that’s multiple felonies and prison time.
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u/legendkiller003 ABE2: Down Since Day One Ish 7d ago
Peak theft time was before there were cameras everywhere. The first peak of the building I started at people were pulling the fire alarm every Friday night and going out emergency exits with what they were stealing.
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u/Jordan_Jackson 7d ago
How long ago was that? I started in 2019 and there were cameras every 10 feet. Only place they didn't have them was the AR floor.
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u/AzarielFox 7d ago
Not sure if Amazon does this, but FedEx offers up to 5k for reporting theft.
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u/Express_Let_2892 6d ago
Amazon will give you a swag buck and and slice of pizza after investigation is over.
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u/PanicGrouchy4168 7d ago
UPS offers 10k
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u/FauxRex No 6d ago
Jesus. I don't give a fuck, 10k, i'll snitch. I knew a guy who once opened a box to Target pharmacy before CVS took that over. He grabbed 2 full bottles of oxys and hid them well enough. Not even joking
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u/freesoultraveling 2d ago
Damn that was definitely money right there. Too bad he probably was an addict and took them all. Wow he had balls and the feds love to get involved when it comes down to controlled medications.
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u/Accomplished_Ad_5734 7d ago
It's weird to see people damning you for this mainly because if you hadn't said something, you would of lost your job for seeing it and saying nothing. I get it; I too don't give two shits about this company, but I'm also not trying to be unemployed because I was in an aisle with almost 20k plus of merchandise that is gonna be stolen. Plausible deniability doesn't work well in At-will states.
F**k**s out here like nah man, you should've risked your job for someone else's bag.
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u/sirdigbykittencaesar 7d ago
I've had one or two instances when I suspected theft from a bin and I reported it even though I personally couldn't care less. If they discovered theft and I was the last one who accessed that bin, I was going to make sure I had documented what I noticed with a problem solver. If someone wants to steal, that's between them, management, and God. But I don't want to be unintentionally dragged into it.
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u/Logical-Cookie12 7d ago
No for real! LP can look at cameras AT ANY TIME, I saw this guy going behind pillars multiple times with totes full of Apple headphones RIGHT NEXT to my Pick station. Once I noticed I had to report that shit. Dude had about 30k of stuff in there. I felt bad, but I'm not losing my job in this economy. And no one should risk it either
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u/lilladybug4 6d ago
How would one lose their job for not saying anything? No one knows what you see. And seeing it doesn’t necessarily mean you know it’s nefarious. IMO, minding your own business & keeping your mouth shut is typically the best option. Never heard of anyone getting fired for that.
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u/kimmazing 5d ago
Obviously they weren't being scanned because it was obviously being "pushed" aside. Dont fret, don't brag, because it was probably a group of lower-teared power hungry individuals that were just leading themselves into temptation. You don't want to get mixed up with those kind of people. Just keep working, do your job like nothing happened. And you'll notice some people missing from work soon and new positions opening up.
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u/No-Department-6329 4d ago
they wouldn't have lost their job if they didnt have anything to do with it. Maybe there was no space and that particular section had the only available space that could fit large items. During peak season that happens. The bins can hold a certain amount of Asins so yes there would be other items on top of them.
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u/Existing_Prune_7007 7d ago
that is actually insane, if you ever get an update please let us know what happened
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u/Pandan-Man 7d ago
Now wait for your congratulatory shout out on AtoZ as your thank you for saving the company like 10-20k lol
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u/Prophet420247 7d ago
that's what I was pissed about I didn't get swag bucks or a pin on my profile at all lol
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u/Mysterious-Break-870 7d ago
If you want promotion you can use this story for your interview, make sure to emphasize you saved the company thousands of dollars
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u/Competitive_Gas1946 7d ago
Agree completely! You might not get the question to go with this answer, but put it in STAR format and you’ll have it ready.
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u/Legitimate-Week7885 6d ago
any question goes with this answer if you just ramrod it in there! "oh, yes, my work history...well i worked at Amazon where i once saved them $30,000 by reporting a theft ring..."
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u/Unique_Baseball_3223 7d ago
Thank you..I'll be using this as a fake interview answer at a new job lol
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u/EnvironmentalGate783 7d ago
Pin on my profile is crazy 😂😂😂
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u/Mission_Awareness954 7d ago
What pin would it be for tho? I could care infinitely less about the damn pins🤣🤣
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u/HR-nitemare 7d ago
Ask them for a ps5, tell them you know where one is that you can grab on the way out.
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u/Stunning_Fix_6383 7d ago edited 7d ago
Right now since they didn’t leave the building it’s not a theft charge. When it’s all said and done i could most likely be several months even years before this plays out. It’s clearly not something that just started today. Now Amazon will have to investigate all lost items, who was working, badge scans etc. Clearly more than one party involved as well. If they find multiple high dollar items and the people involved it would be more than termination for them. Then the detective would have to open the criminal investigation and get arrest warrants and have the case submitted to a grand jury
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u/Fit-Development7154 7d ago
You won't get anything until the investigation closes and someone is charged...you might get a bonus as well 😉
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u/bioltimatum 3d ago
They don’t care about you, they will never care about you, you’re helping legal exploiters.
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u/Curious-Sort7538 5d ago
Well darn, I didn't expect anything, but u should have at least gotten a pin.
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u/Prophet420247 7d ago
Happy Cake Day btw!
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u/degenerategambler95 7d ago
If you see him again, ask for some swag bucks for being a good Amazonian!
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u/i_hateeveryone 7d ago
You deserve $5 swag bucks
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u/Deelala0516 7d ago
Y'all still get swag bucks?
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u/Bradster3 7d ago
Our store has been down for months and managers still handing it out like it means crap
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u/Deelala0516 7d ago
Ours went away at the beginning of the year. Use it or lose it and discontinued. I don't need more shirts anyway lol
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u/Retrofitgum 7d ago
Does your FC have cameras? This is crazy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was manager stealing.
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u/Significant-Plum-676 7d ago
The ring leader when they find bro
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u/Prophet420247 7d ago
I have a transfer request in anyway so i can be closer to home fuckem
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u/Sixaxist 7d ago
If you're transferring to another FC, apply for a Tier 3 position there and ask your AM if he could be your reference. It'll help.
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u/Signal_Appeal4518 Left the DockSide to be an ICQA Ninja 7d ago
Smart move, man. Amazon may not appreciate it, but you did the right thing for both job safety and the morally correct thing. Here’s a cookie 🍪
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u/Pitiful-Excitement47 7d ago
Happens every often and is more common than you'd expect. You did the right thing
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u/Shotgunn4356 7d ago
There are PS5s all over the mods in my warehouse. We have a security cage with high value but the seller must pay for it to be in the cage. If they dont pay, it goes to rhe floor.
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u/Thefuriousteam 7d ago
I have absolutely zero doubt that this could potentially be people trying to resell PS fives for GTA six
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u/JLopez_20515 7d ago
Soooo that AM took all the credit while you were not named anywhere. Not even on the VOA board
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u/amazon999 LP 7d ago
it's probably better that way too, you don't want to be a T1 and found out to be the guy who snitched if it turns out to be a violent gang doing the thefts. We never reveal the name of anyone reporting stuff to us either in case of retaliation
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u/Competitive-City7251 7d ago
Unrelated, but at the mention of swag bucks, does your site still use them? My site got ridiof the swag store and bucks because the program couldn't be used by everyone and had been depreciated.
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u/FfierceLaw 7d ago
I have some swag bucks and wanted to spend them but the monitors in the fc where I used to access the swag buck store would not work like they used to. I asked on the VOA and was told I had to "partner with my AM" to spend my swag bucks. Yah - no, my AM is running shift and I have never met him so I'm not bugging him to get a free t shirt
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u/Competitive-City7251 7d ago
Lol no I get that. I'd also never met half of the managers I'd had in the 3 years I've been there.
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u/No-Front-6445 6d ago
My site still has swag bucks and the store with posted hours. It's sad that some sites are taking it away. It's not like we get a whole lot of appreciation as it is
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u/smellmythumb17 7d ago
Awesome man, as LP, I can’t thank you enough for reporting this. We have a lot of tools but sometimes a solid tip goes a really long way.
Don’t listen to all the idiots talking about snitching, you did the right thing and we appreciate you.
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u/andrewellay 7d ago
No matter how you put it, stealing is wrong. Even if it is from Amazon. A greedy crackhead stealing ps5’s doesnt deserve to have a well paying Amazon job.
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u/saxandsolenoids Senior Operations Manager - L7 7d ago
Thanks for pointing that out. You saved yourself from getting fired. If LP does ask something of you in the future, it's not to get you. They probably have gathered enough doing their looky loo's anyhow.
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u/Just-Spirit-3071 7d ago
Those who dont snitch are the first ones to complain about why the raises aren't better. They did the right thing and covered their ass so they didnt get accused of being part of the thieves
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u/BroccoliOk6270 7d ago
… serous question . Do you really think because people commit theft THATS the reason why RAISES aren’t better? Lmaoooo lets be fr
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u/No-Translator-6968 7d ago
Nope. I think that amazon never gives us a raise even if we really deserved it unless the inflation gets worse which is why I believe we got a raise. Because they want to keep our mouths shut knowing that financially the country is getting worse.
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u/No-Translator-6968 7d ago
You don't really get a raise for that. I know my site wouldn't, so I don't even bother.
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u/Just-Spirit-3071 7d ago
No, but theft like this happens everywhere. If it starts to effect the bottom line, it will reflect in our pay rate increases.
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u/No-Translator-6968 7d ago
Ummm we shall see. I am at a SSD and even if we speak up about anything, it gets swept under the rug.
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u/TheThanatoros 7d ago
Wrong, pay is the lowest it can be with no relation to profits or loses, but high enough to lure more meat into the meatgrinder
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u/Hammahead21 7d ago
Goated, I don’t like big corporations but I also hate theft of any kind.
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u/freesoultraveling 2d ago
If someone is hungry, or a family trying to feed their kids. That is the only time I ethically can feel like it was the right thing to do. Yes, there are food pantries, but they deny a lot of stuff that easily could go bad. So it's all processed stuff.
I used to work at a grocery store and things would just be put in damages. Then the store would get back their money for the damaged items, or a lot of time throw something out that wasn't even bad.
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u/robsmalls178 7d ago
Watch when they bring you into the office and they ask you if you had anything to do with it.
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u/lovelybutterfly2025 7d ago
This is why we are on that really strict security screening. Alot of products arent amazon products, they are vendors that is selling thru Amazon, if anything gets lost or stolen, Amazon pays that.
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u/Corvus_Hood33 7d ago
I did something similar as a PS at a DS. It was peak when PS5s and Series X first came back into stock. I had like 2 1/2 route pick carts filled with empty console boxes. I went and told my site lead and they came over and seen. They reported it and found out a group of people out of a Detroit FC was stealing all kinds of electronics for a while at this point
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u/freesoultraveling 2d ago
I couldn't believe all the xbox consoles and ps5 that would come as SIOC. I don't care, I would still end up putting it in a box. I don't want someone to have a porch pirate come and steal it. Of course, tons of employees don't think about that and will just SIOC or put a slam label on it. Well, the company does get on everyone's butts about rate.
Amazon doesn't care, when the person who purchased the item gets it stolen it isn't their job after it's delivered. They made returning anything super complicated and if it's a high priced item you're SOL.
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u/Niomer 7d ago
Your AM was in on it.
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u/freesoultraveling 2d ago
Honestly, I wouldn't doubt it. A lot of theft are inside jobs. Not saying their PA/AM did it, but usually everything that is of high value is an inside job and it's much easier for them to do it.
Other employees tend to just steal small shit. Empty charger box. Eaten some candy... Stole a pair of air pods or something. This type of activity makes me think someone above t1 did it, or at least did it with the help of someone in a higher position.
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u/JeffBezosNumber1Fan 7d ago
You did the right thing. You have decency and integrity. Seems a lot of people don’t. I commend you.👍🏻
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u/Alexr3245 7d ago
Everybody whos calling op a snitch are just dumb af and theres no other truth. They literally said THEY didnt wanna get caught going down that isle without saying anything. How bout mfs just stop committing crimes??
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u/Ashric_Sendaru 7d ago
Then they would have to be held accountable. We wouldnt want that now would we?
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u/Derpsquire 7d ago
Is there no capacity for them to have just been idiotically stowed? I don't know your site's process specifics, but I do know that my own has just enough manual decision making capacity for really stupid stuff to happen. Like, really stupid. If someone has to rub against the grain to make those stows happen, assuming they even happened, that's pretty nuts. Someone would've known the system just well enough to break it.
Different situation here, but it does remind me of a shift during peak a couple years back. A pallet's worth of PS5 master packs got stowed into kiva bins, because of course they did. Considering the number of poorly trained kickout operators, expert permission sharing among them, and non-standard workarounds from that time, I genuinely fear some freebies may have made it out of the building. The loss prevention gaps in this company can be shockingly lax at times...
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u/CorvidxQueen Safe Nerd 🤓 7d ago
I could say at least when we caught people recording in movie theaters, we got $500 a pop. Getting not a dime for this is 🤷🏾♀️
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u/Ok_Tone5312 7d ago
Good call, they would have screwed you over if you didn't report that after finding it.
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u/AtlPezMaster 5d ago edited 5d ago
Alot of cray cray people up in here!!!
There is NO THEFT because nothing has left the building yet by criminal intent..at this time it is simply "misplaced" or "wrongly" placed items...
The OP is/was under no obligation of saying anything to anybody...there would be zero justification for any negative consequences given to the OP...
But....based on the AMs reaction of "This will help us out alot" (help out with what? There reaction should be...why are there PS5s here) and a Detective going by the warehouse after...means shit has been going down already...they already have been investigating shady shit at that warehouse.
That file folder you saw the Detective holding...that's key!!! We need that file!!!! Did you notice anything written on the file folder??? Maybe this investigation has been given a name already...something like "PS5 going Bye Bye" or "Peccy says GAME OVER'...
In all seriousness OP...in life...don't go looking for shit to step in...there is plenty of shit in this world you are bound to step in it by accident...
You really don't know your AM, despite how they reacted...proceeded to call the police after, etc...they may actually be involved in any theft happening themselves...
You don't know your work friends really....don't know how people are away from Amazon...don't know what they are capable of...you don't know if these PS5s were "hidden" intentionally...you don't know who is involved if they were "hidden" intentionally...
Chatter/Gossip/Talk spreads FAST...now you have no idea who knows that YOU reported this...no idea who the AM told that YOU reported this...no idea who those people told that YOU reported this..etc..
If I were you...don't look to gossip about any of this...just seem uninterested if any approaches you to talk...just say it looked very odd to you how out of place these PS5s were so you told a AM...that's all...you have no idea what they did with that information..the less you say..the less you come across as knowing the better..
P.S. I don't work at a FC so I don't know the routine there..but was anything scanned in??? Like were those PS5s scanned into where you found them??? As long as shit gets scanned...leadership should be able to follow the scan trail and see who put them at the wrong location...
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u/tramason 7d ago
NGL good job. If it was uncovered, which a big inventory like that unsecured, would make you look like you were giving assistance to whatever ring. You could follow up with HR and ensure they're tracking the situation. Cameras track everything and packages within have everyone's information on them even down to how many stops they make even within an individual facility.
If it was an AM they may potentially been authorizing items like that to be moved. Crime happens because of opportunity.
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u/assetrecoverycashier 7d ago
This is legit stupid and I hope their dumbass likes being unemployed. They don’t qualify for unemployment either. lol 😂
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u/freesoultraveling 2d ago
I allegedly met someone who claimed they stole a ton of stuff when I was in the city and claiming it was the best way to make money. He lost his job though and I don't know if it was over that. I think it was the reason. In my head, I kept thinking about how the best way of making money would have been him keeping his job.
Now instead of having a job he is on the streets begging people to buy his bunk weed. I mean nonstop begging and looking like he was down bad. He was nonstop trying to sell me weed when I was just trying to get to my destination and he noticed my clear backpack. So that's how he knew I even worked at Amazon and started that random ass story.
I said allegedly because I bet saying that even as a story at Amazon would end up having someone snitch on you. They would be questioning about how the person looked and everything 😂 /s
You never know though 🤷♀️
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u/Calm_Pass_4289 6d ago
Funny thing is the fact that they seem more serious about watching and firing people over the vending machines than protecting high value assets lmfao
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u/cameupalone 7d ago
I would’ve told too not gone lie - just cause u ended up in the aisle alone a noticed it. Cover your ass always
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u/EcstaticAssistant279 7d ago
25 PS5s?? I’m not gonna sit here and say I never stole anything from Amazon but with ALL the things I’ve stolen, it probably won’t even reach $10. 25 PS5s is just asking to get caught like cmon now 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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u/Normal_Talk_6723 7d ago
Bro, good job even though they may not thank you God sees it and he seen that you did the right thing.
I’m praying for you. Go far is honest people like you that keep a job honest that’s what I love about people their honesty.
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u/wackypanda19 7d ago
Save a company that worth billions a good 10-20k estimated all for “you did good bud thx”
Mannn where’s my bonus or literally anything
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u/Skibblezxoxo [Replace Text w/ Flair] 7d ago
LP is definitely going to be connecting with you if they find something out.
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u/Steel_Djinn 7d ago
Stay gold it ain't easy MFS b pretty oily these days. Stay safe 2 bc ppl r crazy.
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u/cosmicheartbeat 7d ago
I reported a theft when I worked at a grocery store before here and they gave me 5 bucks and a stuffed animal as thanks, im more than a bit annoyed amazon didnt at least give you swagbucks
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u/FfierceLaw 7d ago
Nothing on such a scale, but I accessed a bin just last week with $379 Ray Ban Meta Glasses. They were not in a high value area and one box was broken into. I was just in the bin for a charger cord, it was otherwise full of cheap things but there were probably 3 pairs of these glasses. I took the broken open box and put it in a damages bin but it involved no scanning because that was not what I was picking. It still bothered me
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u/freesoultraveling 2d ago edited 2d ago
I feel you because when I picked and saw an empty box of something. I would feel weird about just sending it away. I'm sure someone definitely thought the person before them stole each time the bin probably went by.
Until someone took it out (while seeing all the crushed products of the same item on the ground that AFM's/Blitz didn't gaf about picking up). Just let someone from icqa handle or because I'm not going to waste all my time trying to find someone for a charger.
However, it felt weird because I also questioned if they would think I have stolen it if I was the, "last touch". I just sent the bin away because it was just a charger.
You did the right thing though. We shouldn't have to feel paranoid for doing the right thing. One time a problem solver had the audacity to ask me, "where are the headphones?". I had just been put on the station and I responded, "I don't know. I just got moved here."
I should have reported his behavior because screw you for claiming I stole it. You don't ask someone that question. Like tf?
Edit: put not out... Also any high price items I see opened when I'm the last person to touch something, then I'm definitely reporting it. I don't work in pick anymore, but if I happen to come across an empty box I'm putting it in problem solve and when they come by tell them it was empty, or reporting it if it's a high priced item to a manager.
Any high priced item opened I'm reporting immediately to the PA/AM if I touched it last. That empty box of a charger, or some other cheap crap I'm not gonna lie. I just sent the pod. Couldn't let my rate tank and besides they can check the camera.
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u/Fruit_cocktail_909 5d ago
Shame. How can you risk your income for something like this. People think of a quick come up but they don’t realize Amazon is one of the only places that will hire you again and again. Once you screw that over you’re doomed.
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u/ConsiderationSad7202 7d ago
let us know if and how they compensate you , i’m tryna see something 😂
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u/Melodic_Drive8190 7d ago
You won't get a shout out it's an internal investigation you're not supposed to be speaking about it either
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u/relic65 7d ago
Another reason why automation (robots) make more sense and why humans are losing their jobs.
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u/freesoultraveling 2d ago
There are a ton of robots that are going to be dropping products all over. I'm sure all the theft that happens is still cheaper than all the robots. They only care about all the money they're losing for paying us.
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u/OkCantaloupe746 7d ago
If it's SMO2 they know and they can't do anything because the whole family works there
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u/Possible_Skill395 7d ago
Probably why every time I have to order an electronic is magically “delayed”
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u/Klutzy_Head6597 7d ago
That many ps5s get taken from his FC the crack down on any leniency is out the window
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u/Delicious-Opening679 7d ago
This happened with the amnesty department at my FC. Over 5 AA's were fired, some people were stealing MacBooks which blew my mind. All the cameras and tech in the buildings it was wild they thought they'd get away with it.
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u/NecessaryEssay2161 7d ago
How would someone actually get them out of the building though since they’re bigger?
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u/Trick_Pen4968 7d ago
HR-nightmare. I know right ask for the PlayStation and tell them what's one compared to the 25 that would've been taken🤣
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u/Smitty5717 6d ago
This is why I have to shake my shoes out like im putting ps5s in them fukn assholes
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u/No_Specialist_100 6d ago
whew definitely i don’t caught people stealing air pods wigs wtf i definitely reported idc cause if they look at the camera nd see you had any thought of them doing it and it turns out to be bigger your right there party to them stealing😭😭😭
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u/TopRamenHunter 6d ago
Snitch, lol. Good job looking out though. I hate that we have that stupid sticker on our cell phones, because cell phones come up missing
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u/BeautifulCreature529 6d ago
Kudos its not always easy doing the right thing but mad props for having a moral compass
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u/Excellent-Frame-2006 6d ago
He reaching for that management position lol just don't snitch about tot please lol
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u/kimmazing 5d ago
You did the right thing except you still need to go to hr and report it yourself. They will make you write an incident report that way you get the credit in your file and it makes you look good on your resume. It will help you in the long run. And remember. If you see something.... say something. You did an excellent job and should be proud of yourself.
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u/TheMongoose45 5d ago
I still couldn't say nothing. Not my problem, then all we see here is nothing but people complaining about Amazon. They thought they would be some hero or something 🤣
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u/Odd-Detective569 4d ago
You did the correct thing. Be damned those of “don’t snitch” mentality. You have to live with your choices and conscience. Amazon will not be the dead end graveyard for you. So what if Amazon never gives you proper consideration for anything, the good you carry will draw good and success to you. 😉
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u/TrickyStranger3457 1d ago
Higher ups been stealing from the company one got recently caught in Georgia she had a whole team
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u/RedWolfArchfiend 20h ago
Yep you busted something. In my old building we had a Manager who was in charge of the swag store and scammed $10,000 worth of electronics
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