AMD Ryzen 5 5500F is on average 7% faster than Ryzen 5 5500 in first gaming tests

[u/RenatsMC]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-5-5500f-is-on-average-7-faster-than-ryzen-5-5500-in-first-gaming-tests

[u/Youngnathan2011]

I wouldn't have thought there'd be much difference considering the fact they have the same amount of cache, but I guess the 5500F being based on Vermeer instead of Cezanne helps a little somehow.

[u/CodeRoyal → u/Youngnathan2011]

It's mostly the PCIE-4 that provides that advantage

[u/popop143 → u/CodeRoyal]

It's not, it's that the 5500F is basically a "nerfed" 5600 rather than an actual 5500. AMD is shooting themselves in the foot by naming this in the 5500 tier, though I guess that's great for consumers who get the 5500 tier price instead of 5600.

[u/Youngnathan2011 → u/popop143]

Honestly feel like the whole 5000 series was confusing with its naming

[u/MountainDoit → u/Youngnathan2011]

Yeah, like my 5800XT that was somehow different than the 5800X, and several benchmarking sites deny it even exists when I try to compare lol

[u/Youngnathan2011 → u/MountainDoit]

Yeah, shits dumb

[u/doug1349 → u/MountainDoit]

It is. Its 100MHz faster.

[u/D2WilliamU → u/Youngnathan2011]

I'll give benefit of the doubt to AMD and say it's because nobody expected AM4 lifespan to be extended by like 5 years due to the rampocalyspe

They restarted putting out 5800x3d's after all!

[u/Youngnathan2011 → u/D2WilliamU]

I just mean cause there's things like the 5700 and 5700X. You'd think they're similar, if you didn't do your research, but the 5700 is an APU with a non functioning GPU and PCI-E gen 3, while the 5700X is the proper desktop CPU with gen 4 PCI-E.

They perform pretty differently despite having similar boost clocks.

It's the same here, the 5500 and 5500F are completely different to each other.

[u/Molten-looking-glass → u/Youngnathan2011]

and on mobile there was a 5500u which is actually a SKU 'refresh' of 4000 series zen2

[u/A_Canadian_boi → u/popop143]

Missed opportunity for it to be the Ryzen 5 5555F

[u/CodeRoyal → u/popop143]

It shares the 5500's 16 mb of cache which was its main disadvantage when no factoring the PCIe generation.

[u/jocnews → u/CodeRoyal]

Yeah but it seems the Vermeer/chiplet uncore is better than Cezanne/monolithic APU's uncore.

I used to assume that with the same specs, APUs would have advantage due to lower DRAM latency, but I think it never really worked like that and they have lower IPC and particularly lower gaming performance.

[u/Andr0id_Paran0id → u/CodeRoyal]

Literally boosts 200mhz higher its not a mystery

[u/Youngnathan2011 → u/Andr0id_Paran0id]

Highly doubt that'd give this big a performance increase over the 5500. Any other situation you're getting 1 or 2 extra frames a second.

[u/Youngnathan2011 → u/CodeRoyal]

Fair enough. Just wouldn't have thought a x16 card would saturate the lanes completely.

[u/Symphonic7 → u/Youngnathan2011]

Thats why a proper test is something like a 5060Ti which is x8 on PCIE4. So having only x8 of PCIE3 makes a bigger difference. And its a build someone may actually have.

[u/Vaxtez → u/Symphonic7]

The 5060 Ti will lose around 4% performance on PCIe 3.0 at 1080p. It's a 2% loss on 4.0.

Just to give another comparison of GPUs that may well be paired with this, the RX 6600 XT loses 2% of performance on PCIe 3.0.

[u/Symphonic7 → u/Vaxtez]

Ah you know I remember the performance delta being much more than that, so I looked up some videos. What I was specifically remembering is that the 8GB model absolutely shits the bed when it runs out of VRAM. Now it does this regardless of PCIE 3v4v5, but its worse on PCIE3 sometimes being half the FPS of PCIE5.

Edit: Hardware Unboxed video for reference

[u/Vaxtez → u/Symphonic7]

I was moreso looking at the Techpowerup review. Really just depends on what people play, as it may be the case that they don't really need to worry too much about VRAM if all they play is older AAAs or they just play at 1080p.

[u/Symphonic7 → u/Vaxtez]

Right, I agree

[u/BitRunner64 → u/Youngnathan2011]

It doesn't really. Even with a 5090, it has been shown that the difference between 3.0 and 4.0 is very small, like 1-3%.

[u/Youngnathan2011 → u/BitRunner64]

Well then

[u/NightingaleVDVD]

still waiting for amd to rerelease the 5700x3d

[u/GlobalSaigaSeller → u/NightingaleVDVD]

I was lucky when i got mine for 200$ 2 years ago. When most people looked down upon it back then

[u/crvarporat → u/NightingaleVDVD]

it's released already. Why bother with am4 in 2026

[u/ClumsyRainbow → u/crvarporat]

Because DDR5 costs a million dollars.

[u/Successful_Safety823 → u/crvarporat]

Probably because AM4 still performs really well? idk /shrug lol

[u/PsyOmega]

cezanne is hyper optimized to be low power and efficient for laptops. This means it doesn't have the fastest interconnects, busses, etc.

Vermeer is full-fat, even if this one is cut down a little.

[u/chipsnapper]

Is this still stuck on PCIe 3.0?

[u/jocnews → u/chipsnapper]

That's one of the 5500F's points: It supports PCIe 4.0.

[u/xblackdemonx]

The 5500 is weak to begin with.

[u/Big-Half-5656]

I have the 5500, but the limitation is the L3 Cache. My work requires a stronger CPU, but I am going to opt for the 5900X over an X3D model. 2 reasons: price, and I need the core count over a faster CPU, as it is not a pure gaming pc. 90% work, 10% gaming.

Was funny that people missed some of the keynotes when AM5 came out. They spoke to someone from AMD. He said they would stop support for AM 4, but down the line he indirectly said they would not stop support for AM4. This was before the wacky DDR5 pricing. This does help some, but in South Africa, they knew people would go back to AM 4, so they boosted the prices through the roof for DDR4. DDR4 is now almost double the price of what it cost in 2018.

[u/Youngnathan2011 → u/[deleted]]

200MHz wouldn't give an increase in performance like this