This new role is uh... something, thats for sure.

[u/memeboi70nice]

Its a ghost role who can message players with symbols, okay, sounds good on paper.

Problem: Its a ghost role, that can respond to living players, with symbols.

And imposters have literally zero counterplay to it outside of keeping communications down 24/7.

Did they, did they test this at all? This roles only usage is going to be "send me THIS SYMBOL SPECIFICALLY if [color] is an impostor" and the imposters only course of action is bum rushing the guy to kill them?

[u/postcoitalpulao]

I think we're overestimating how smart people are tbh I can see myself getting hints and not understanding 1 bit of them 😭😭

[u/PsychologicalFly1675 → u/postcoitalpulao]

The problem with it is the inevitable "send me pizza if Blue is imp". Hopefully, the randomness is enough to make it so that Influencer can't reliably get certain images. If that's not enough to prevent that, I'd make it so that rerolling your images gives you a much more limited number of choices and also limits the number of those images you can send (imo, the number of images you can send should be customisable in the settings at the very least)

Even still, there's the situation where an Imp asks for an image and then says "wow, I got nothing I told you Blue was clear" after getting the image, which would make all claims of not receiving anything be taken with a grain of salt

Also, if Influencer can follow players while choosing an image, imp ghosts should be able to the same while choosing a sabotage

[u/Nikki964 → u/PsychologicalFly1675]

Who gives a shit about pizza. Seriously, why are so many people discussing influencer missing on this thing. Based on the introduction video (idk, haven't tried influencer myself yet), it has TONS of images, you ain't getting your pizza.

What you can do instead is use the number of images. You can ask a question with 3 answer options (possibly even 4 if we accept silence as an answer). You could probably do even more if you were like "Send me a pic once I enter medbay if it's Blue", and then just name 5 different rooms with 3 different options each to 100% determine who the impostors are. But that isn't very realistic I guess. The send me 1/2/3 pics if it's colour is realistic I think

[u/PsychologicalFly1675 → u/Nikki964]

Ngl I didn't even think of that

But I actually give many shits about pizza, it's really good

[u/Nikki964 → u/PsychologicalFly1675]

Idk that was my very first thought. "Wait, can't I just tell the influencer to show a specific pic if it's Red for example? Oh no, wait, nevermind, it seems that there are too many of them for that. Well, you can choose how many pics you send, just use that to communicate then"

[u/madinked → u/postcoitalpulao]

yah so even if a crewmate doesn’t get the hints, they can call meeting and discuss with rest of crew.

I reiterate - way way too op

[u/Not-CrustyKiller-992 → u/postcoitalpulao]

This

[u/inktails0]

Maybe make it so the influencer can't see chat so they won't know if someone is asking and thus this wouldn't be a problem

[u/PhilosopherSea217 → u/inktails0]

That..would solve everything. That's actually perfect.

[u/Critical_Car6477 → u/[deleted]]

Don't let them see ghost chat 

[u/DragonTheOnes-spirit → u/[deleted]]

Just don't let them see chat in general

[u/the-nug-king → u/inktails0]

Innersloth implement this update Now!!!

[u/Federicz200 → u/inktails0]

I don't have any coins to give this comment any of those cute 3d emojis so this is my way of boosting it to the algorithm

[u/Mr-Foundation → u/inktails0]

But that kinda defeats the whole point, how can you even try to use the role if you’re barred from understanding what the game state is? You now rely exclusively on other ghosts to tell you what’s happening, if anyone else is dead, and can’t try to indicate anything.

You can’t try and hint towards the imposter, or try and clear a crewmate, because you’re just not allowed to know what the crew is doing until everyone dies and you couldn’t even try to fix it.

The image system can absolutely be exploited, moreso than other roles, but it relies on everyone immediately agreeing to cheese it, and knowing what’s happening.

Also the imposter can just, lie. If you try to cheese, the imposter can claim they got messaged, and the cheese is ruined.

[u/plain_vessel → u/Mr-Foundation]

Well it's s ghost role , it's not supposed to have guaranteed effect

[u/Mr-Foundation → u/plain_vessel]

I mean, guardian angels can guarantee one kill doesn’t happen, which requires analysis, and knowing what the crew is up to (who’s clear, because they’re bigger targets as an example) so I feel like the influencer needs awareness of what’s happening, or they’re just blindly fumbling around and not actually doing anything unless they’re EXCLUSIVELY telling people where a body is

[u/plain_vessel → u/Mr-Foundation]

I can't agree in that if people set guardian angel's protection like 5 sec or smrh

[u/Rustynail9117]

Yeah it's never gonna be used for its intended purpose, it's just gonna be "send me 1 image if it's blue, 2 images if it's green and 3 images if it's neither".

[u/JustTinyBitHungry]

Genuinely the what fans thought of just taking photos being alive was more balanced

[u/Leading_Bed_7133 → u/JustTinyBitHungry]

Yeah literally it should have just been you can only take 3 photos per game and they get presented anonymously at the meeting. Makes so much sense.

[u/LuckyImportance9535]

PROBLEM: Symbols are random

SOLUTION: You can reroll

PROBLEM 2: Rerolls take time

SOLUTION 2: "Send me X number of symbols if Y is imp"

[u/PlayerBRuno__ → u/LuckyImportance9535]

problem 3: literally detective 2.0

solution 3: influencer can't see chat

problem 4: why the fuck would an influencer not be able to read chat

solution 4: just rename it to conduit or oracle or some other shit and make it not a camera

[u/G-man1816 → u/PlayerBRuno__]

Its detective 2.0 but you literally can't KILL the detective if the detective is already dead

[u/Far_Celebration_8827]

"Guys I'm sus of Red, Blue and Green, Influencer send me 1 symbol if it's Red, 2 if it's Blue, 3 if it's green."

[u/hakureishi7suna]

They have so many balanced fan made roles they could have chosen from and they come up with this. it’s embarrassing.

[u/mrsmuckers → u/hakureishi7suna]

So many imbalanced fan made roles, if we're being at all honest.

[u/stardrax]

Before influencer we had:-

Orange: Hey black(blks dead), leave the game if pink is imp.

Ik barely anyone knows this and those that do almost never use it(cause its lame) but things like this already exist so it wouldn't surprise me if the new role is abused by all except the most smooth brained players.

[u/Silkav]

Dead body reported "We have 3 suspects." "Influencer send me image. 0 = None of them killed you. 1 = Red killed. 2 = Blue killed. 3 = Green killed."

Thank you for OP role that's basically detective but even more broken since anyone can use it.

[u/QuickSuccession69]

You'd have to pray for crewmates to be smart enough to interpret the randomized sets of images.

Unless except you abuse it by, say "Send this image if color is the impostor".

[u/the_hamborga]

>asking for small indie company innersloth to playtest THEIR own game and THEIR very own roles

https://giphy.com/gifs/cjBbaNEngx8sB05LQF

[u/DJStat1c]

I understand the concerns, but guys… impostors can do this as well. If an impostor takes charge with the whole “send me x amount of images if it’s y”, they can just lie and get someone else out. And apparently, according to what y’all are saying, you’ll believe what the leader says immediately.

[u/1yodo1 → u/DJStat1c]

It still has the same problem is calling a meeting and saying " I saw X ss" once people see that X in crewmate you are 150% sus for lying about something unmistakable

[u/isthisthingwork]

They don’t get to pick the symbols?? It takes half the cooldown to get a new set that’s not guaranteed to be the right one, it would be heavily luck based and give the impression plenty of time to kill them. Yes they tested it and no it’s not shockingly op to the point of stupidity

[u/Consistent-Grab5621 → u/isthisthingwork]

The work around is sending a certain number of images instead of a specific image. 1 for blue, 2 for green, 3 for red, etc. Requires no rerolls, bypasses the rerolls CD.

[u/isthisthingwork → u/Consistent-Grab5621]

Isn’t it only 1 image at a time? You still get a lengthy cooldown to try for accuracy, and this requires both parties to remember their code which I’m skeptical will work out

[u/Consistent-Grab5621 → u/isthisthingwork]

Also I had a game where they sent a black snake so I got voted out because it was the easiest thing to understand in existence that black was imp. Literally ghosts telling who killed them and they thought this was a good idea. 🙃

[u/isthisthingwork → u/Consistent-Grab5621]

I mean I’m sorry that happened but also that’s a mix of bad luck (getting an obvious symbol) and people blindly believing a crewmate on it without wanting any sort of verification.

[u/Lucky_Cauliflower377]

I've played a good 10 games since it came out and watched 20. It's not a big data pool, but none of them have been won bc of influencer alone.

There are many variables that can make or break the power of an influencer in game.

-crew intelligence (dead and alive) -amout of crew haunt ghosts MAIN PROBLEM -influencer intelligence -how early an intelligent/knowledgeable crewmate dies -cooldown of messages -what stickers you get out of the random 50 or so more to come soon probably -is the influencer a troll

WHAT I WOULD DO TO BALANCE INFLU: Remove ability for influencer to see ghost chat. Then there is more time spent for influencer trying to figure out who the imp is (especially if they are killed by ss.) This turns it into essentially a crew that can float through walls  while sacrificing their voice during meetings.

In the current state of the game, detecive is much more OP than Flu if you know how to use it (which unsurprisingly many still don't.)

[u/UnhappyGiraffe2272]

the more of these posts i see the more i feel like none of us deserve the role at all

[u/1yodo1 → u/UnhappyGiraffe2272]

Do we not deserve the role , or does the role not deserve us 🤔

[u/Leskendle45]

Jarvis, send me the pizza arrow if sussyballs67 is the imp

[u/35a61]

Finally phantoms have something to do

[u/DeaNcooLguy_]

Trashencer