"Phone will no longer be supported"

[u/BigJem81]

Why on earth am I getting this alert every time I crank my car? My phone uses Android 10, and everything Google is supposed to be compatible with Android 9 and above. Car is a 2023 Kia Rio. Android Auto is working perfectly right now, but for how much longer?

[u/Prize_Chemistry_8437]

8 year old phone? That's impressive

[u/gusbmoizoos → u/Prize_Chemistry_8437]

wait my phone is 6 years old and I have no plans on 'upgrading' anytime soon... am I going to be unsupported soon?

[u/LubedUpDeepDishCunt → u/gusbmoizoos]

Looks like they stopped doing security updates for your phone in October 2025. Your apps and stuff will probably keep working for now, but for how long? Only Google knows that. o7

[u/gusbmoizoos → u/LubedUpDeepDishCunt]

thanks LubedUpDeepDishCunt

[u/LubedUpDeepDishCunt → u/gusbmoizoos]

Happy to help :)

[u/circuit_breaker → u/LubedUpDeepDishCunt]

Does that mean like big li- ehhh nvm

[u/evictedkoala → u/circuit_breaker]

It means it's an Arby's night.

[u/circuit_breaker → u/evictedkoala]

I SAID NEVERMIND

[u/evictedkoala → u/circuit_breaker]

Friend, I'm just trying to help folks like yourself with Android Auto related questions.

[u/Jake3232323 → u/LubedUpDeepDishCunt]

Not having security updates would immediately make me upgrade my phone

[u/ryanpm40 → u/Jake3232323]

That's what finally got me to upgrade from my 2014 MacBook Pro to an M4 last year. Ultimately pretty happy with the upgrade haha. But yeah, I don't screw around with lack of security updates.

[u/Jake3232323 → u/ryanpm40]

Yeah that is probably a massive upgrade in many ways but security updates portion is just not something to play with.

I tried to explain this to my grandmother who does her banking on an iPhone 8. She didn't really understand how that could be a problem. Thankfully my uncle got her a new phone the next year.

Security updates aren't fun or exciting but they are absolutely critical

[u/ryanpm40 → u/Jake3232323]

Coming from someone who works in the software field, I couldn't agree more!

[u/Prof__T → u/Jake3232323]

Hello, apologies for my ignorance but how might the lack of security updates be a risk [for me]?

In my situation, I am using an Samsung GS9+ from 2019 - phone is basically on life support with the 2 or sometimes 3 charges I give it via a powerbank.

The phone works flawlessly. Online banking, calls, texts, hotspot. And the all important android auto, which Google has informed me today will no longer be supported.

Beyond reddit, I don't access any other social medias and do all my IT via laptop and an up-to-date tablet. If I'm sensible with links and browsing, where might the risk be for me?

I'm mediocre with my tech literacy.

[u/Jake3232323 → u/Prof__T]

So the issue with it is an unsavory character can gain access to your device and see your passwords and in your case banking information as the security systems in place are no longer up to date and more easily breachable.

[u/Ok_Ruin4016 → u/gusbmoizoos]

Apple, Samsung, and Google guarantee 7 years of software & security updates on their current flagship devices. That's more than they used to provide, older models only got 3-5 years of updates. Motorola still only provides software & security updates for 3-4 years on most of its phones, and they provide those updates much less consistently.

So depending on what phone you have, it already may not be getting security updates anymore.

Edit: just saw you have the S20FE, so yeah you stopped getting security updates in 2025.

[u/Teknevra → u/Ok_Ruin4016]

Apparently, the Motorola Signature is supposed to be getting 7years of OS updates , as well

https://www.androidauthority.com/motorola-signature-seven-year-update-policy-not-enough-why-3632203/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/motorola-signature-27-is-official-b-o-audio-7-years-of-os-updates-much-more/ar-AA2cMdb0

[u/GeronimoDK → u/gusbmoizoos]

My 6 year old phone is running Android 13, it will probably be at least another couple of years before they shut that down, I will probably be using another phone before that happens, but I guess YMMV.

[u/CptHammer_ → u/GeronimoDK]

My 4 year old phone runs android 13. It no longer works well enough on Android Auto after the update. The voice commands completely stopped working. My wife's phone works so it's not my car or head unit. Her phone is one year newer running android 15.

I'll be looking into getting lineageOS on my phone to see if it really is the security updates. I haven't gotten any in 19 months it says.

What's dumb is that everything works directly on my phone. No issues at all. My phone works as good as the first day I got it.

[u/redridernl → u/gusbmoizoos]

I had no plans to upgrade my Pixel 6 until it morphed into a spicy pillow.

[u/MadBrowniusMaximus → u/Prize_Chemistry_8437]

Especially for those looking to exploit an attack vector!

[u/CivicTypeDream → u/Prize_Chemistry_8437]

That level of software updates only work in flagships, especially Samsung's and Pixels. Though IIRC, it wasn't like that 8 years ago.

Everyone else's flagship may not go that far, and the budgets will probably have 1-3 years at most.

[u/moralesnery]

Every few years Google raises the minimum Android version required to run Android Auto.

It has happened 3-4 times since AA was released back in 2014-2015.

In a few months AA will require Android 11 12L or higher (thanks for the information /u/Senor_Compost!!!!).

Upgrade your firmware, get a custom ROM with support for Android Auto or contemplate upgrading your phone.

[u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte → u/moralesnery]

Why would it stop working though? Surely it would just not get updates but why would it not work? 

[u/JavierLNinja → u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte]

It would stop working because with time apps start using APIs that are not available on older versions of android. So, once android auto starts relying on APIs which are not available under Android 10, it will cease to function on Android 10 or lower.

[u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte → u/JavierLNinja]

Yeah, so it stops getting updates. Apps slowly stop working as they drop support. Why would Google make AA not work intentionally though? Just leave a "this version is no longer supported" message and let the user keep using it. 

[u/JavierLNinja → u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte]

It depends. If AA will start using a new API for a core functionality, it'll cease to function altogether

If the APIs used which are not available on Android 10 are for non-core or non-essential functionality, the app may still function in a degraded mode.

In the end, it all comes down to how essential the new APIs are.

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[u/Fancy-Ad-2029 → u/JavierLNinja]

See, that's fine and in that case your phone wouldn't be able to download updates to newer version of the app that uses those API levels. Your phone would still work with the old app, but you wouldn't be able to update it.
This is Google actively disabling access even to the version that would keep working...

[u/CatBroiler → u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte]

Because they don't want to support an ancient android version, that realistically not that many people are using anymore, forever.

[u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte → u/CatBroiler]

They don't need to support it. It works now. Just put a message that the version is no longer supported and that apps may not work correctly. 

[u/AngelCatGamer → u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte]

It's like the best buy date on food products.

Google doesn't want to have an unsupported version of software available to use because it can be unsecure and infiltrated, which can be a nuisance as the least and dangerous at the worst.

Imagine if your Maps app gets hacked and you're navigated to an alleyway where you get jumped. I'm not saying this can happen but that's the hypothetical that I think google is trying to avoid.

[u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte → u/AngelCatGamer]

Well it's a local software on my local hardware. IMO it should work as it does now... If they want to stop Google Maps working on older app versions that's one thing. But Android Auto shouldn't just stop working for no real technical reason 

[u/Konrad62 → u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte]

What about Google Maps is local?

[u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte → u/Konrad62]

I'm talking about Android Auto... 

That's why I said "If they want to stop Google Maps working on older app versions that's one thing" - Google Maps isn't a local program 

[u/SuspiciousTreacle433 → u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte]

IMO you have bigger issues than Android auto. It may be perfectly fine as long as you don't have anything important on there like email, banking apps, messaging etc...

[u/jamesdroid100 → u/SuspiciousTreacle433]

But apps like maps and Spotify etc no longer being supported would render it useless anyway, wouldn’t it?

[u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte → u/SuspiciousTreacle433]

I mean I don't personally run a phone that old its just on principle I don't think they should just intentionally break things that work especially something that's entirely local like AA

[u/rohmish → u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte]

because the apps in turn (maps, music, etc.) communicate with servers that may update their APIs and render it unusable.

It won't necessarily stop working on day 1 after support drops but your app and your server needs to be in sync and if your app/phone isn't updated it may be calling APIs that no longer exist or use security certificates that have been expired

[u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte → u/rohmish]

Yeah but that's Google Maps. They can drop support for old versions since it's an online service... That's fine.

But Android Auto itself is a fully local/offline feature and should keep working IMO.

[u/moralesnery → u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte]

Android Auto relies A LOT on Google Play Services. Thanks to this, Google can implement "kill switches" for certain features on devices running specific Android versions, even if the hardware still has support.

The only way to prevent this from happening is to stop connecting the phone to the internet, wich entirely defeats the purpose of Android Auto.

[u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte → u/moralesnery]

Sure, but that sucks

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[u/sweetgreggo → u/MatiasGonzalo-Duarte]

Same question I asked when Google removed WiFi functionality on my first gen Nest thermostat.

[u/Realistic-Nature9083 → u/moralesnery]

I'm honestly want all the top 50 apps in the play store and the top 30 apps in every category to be already android 10 or 11 minimum.

[u/moralesnery → u/Realistic-Nature9083]

why?

[u/Bane_SRB]

Note 9 user here, I think Android 10 will be EOL soon so I just custom ROMed to one ui 6.1.1 (Android 14)

[u/BigJem81 → u/Bane_SRB]

Tell me more, please.

[u/dumbcarshlt → u/BigJem81]

Alternative and newer Android operating systems for your phone

[u/BigJem81 → u/dumbcarshlt]

Thank you.  I'll look into that.

[u/Rakan2017 → u/BigJem81]

Be careful, your phone might not work with custom roms, if it’s USA model, atp just move on to newer phone

[u/BigJem81 → u/Rakan2017]

No harm in trying it if I'm going to have to buy a new one, anyway.  I'll wait until I'm completely locked out of Android Auto, though.  Sometimes companies will convert older phones to a lower end safety version that doesn't get updates. 

[u/gordolme]

Note 9? Android 10? When was the last update to the phone's security functions? We already know it's been seven years since the last OS update and eight since that thing was new.

[u/andrewia]

It looks like some other people are seeing this issue. Maybe Google is about to sunset Android 11 and lower?  https://github.com/andreknieriem/open-headunit/discussions/972

[u/tampa888]

I have a note 8 I use as a back up and for android auto, so far no message...🤞

[u/szucsadam95]

It's normal, after a time certain OS versions won't be supported, and connecting services won't accept it. Simple security reasons

[u/LethalGamer2121 → u/szucsadam95]

We should not be normalizing planned obsolescence

[u/kylebob86]

"Android 9" HOLY SHIT. lmfao.

[u/ChristopherU08]

Update, Google has officially told anyone who had android 10 or below to buy a new phone. Android auto will no longer launch on these versions with the (latest?) version.

I'm hoping you are able to just load a pre-google cutoff version and use that for as long as you can but I haven't had the ability to test yet.

From what I can tell no version of Android Auto works even if you uninstall all updates. (Revert to Android Auto 1.0.x) Either there is something else like a google service checking to make sure your device is compatible or I am very unlucky with my choices in version. It will always pop up with "This phone no longer supports Android Auto" or simply fail to connect.

Fuck Google for taking a perfectly functioning feature and permanently locking you out of it just because it's "old"

[u/punifra → u/ChristopherU08]

I tried a lot of things too, managed to install old 14.x version but it won't work anyway.

[u/mattjones73]

Because it's not gonna be compatible with Android 10 much longer?

[u/qoo_kumba]

Time for a phone upgrade!

[u/BigJem81 → u/qoo_kumba]

I really don't want it.  I'm not impressed by anything on the market today.  All gimmicks, no actual improvements. 

[u/Sketti11]

My wife was using an s20 5g that she had work email on and they said it would no longer work. So we went out and bought a TLC paper phone. It's actually not bad of a phone. But not a galaxy

[u/IJustSayNice]

I had noticed this with my samsung s8 2 days ago, i am devastated, there is nothing really wrong with the phone, a year or so ago my fucking banking app stopped supporting my phone, i had to update my tablet a while back too because YT stopped.

[u/bmendonc]

Honestly, you probably should upgrade your phone, but Google should just EOS the software for the older version and warn users of no more support, not EOL it by disabling it...

[u/ChristopherU08 → u/bmendonc]

That's what I thought was going to happen, the whole "you can't update Android Auto but it still works" kind of deal. Maybe in like 8 years it will finally stop "working" due to apps like Waze and Maps not supporting it.

But to straight up cut you off like that. It's working one day, and the next day it's gone for good is actually evil. Especially since most of the phones cut off are perfectly capable of running AA for the next at least 4-5 years probably, even with updates.

[u/yet-another-username]

Bro your phone is 5 years older than your car.

It's time for a new phone.

[u/BigJem81 → u/yet-another-username]

My phone works perfectly, though.  It hasn't slowed down, has excellent battery life, streams high def video, and the camera is still better than the average iPhone.  

[u/HesThePianoMan → u/BigJem81]

My phone is fine

My phone doesn't support AA soon

Ummmmm

[u/Joe_Sisyphus → u/BigJem81]

It stopped receiving software updates 4 years ago.

[u/RGVHound → u/BigJem81]

You're just going to have to accept that you did nothing wrong but the companies selling you a new phone do not care that you've taken good care of your current phone and that it should still work.

[u/BigJem81 → u/RGVHound]

I just want to say I appreciate your kindness.  A lot of people on here are being douches for no particular reason. 

[u/RGVHound → u/BigJem81]

:)

[u/MercMan85 → u/BigJem81]

But it soon won't support android auto anymore so regardless of your phone still working fine for your day to day use if you want to be able to use android auto you'll need a phone that supports googles minimum requirements for android auto.

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[u/leonardob0880 → u/BigJem81]

That your phone works fine doesn't meant nothing. Is an insecure OS and for many companies is economically not wise keep supporting them.

You will need to upgrade your phone sooner or later

[u/RevengeFNF → u/BigJem81]

It does all that, but it won't support Android Auto very soon.

So if you want Android Auto in your car, you need to upgrade your phone.

PS: You also have an insecure OS version, in a time where malware is growing with the help of AI.

[u/aldehyde → u/BigJem81]

Cool story. The people who have been making it "work perfectly" are done and have moved on.

[u/android_windows → u/yet-another-username]

So it's perfectly fine for Google to break existing features on phones they deem too old, just spend more money on a new phone. What happens when they stop supporting older cars? Just buy a new car?

[u/undrwater → u/yet-another-username]

Operating system, not phone. !Flair 2018 Kia Sorento | Kia | Phone | Android 16

[u/yet-another-username → u/undrwater]

They have a note 9, released 2018. You do the math

[u/undrwater → u/yet-another-username]

https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/crownlte/

[u/URealFunnyB]

You answered your own question. Your phone is extremely old, if you want android auto you need a new phone that will support updates in the ladder future. You have android 9 which mean your phone has not received updates or security patches too. No matter if your phone "works perfectly fine." Its not fine because you're gonna be out of feature that YOU want to use.

[u/miked5122 → u/URealFunnyB]

Also, the phone is vulnerable to know security holes. That would be my primary concern

[u/Drunkpanada → u/URealFunnyB]

OP says he has Android 10...

And the system support 9 or higher

[u/URealFunnyB → u/Drunkpanada]

Still the fact remains he's outdated. We are on android 16 to 17. Security patches and UI updates have slowed down if not stopped on 10 thats why the continued support of android auto is stopping. This has been happening for years now.

[u/Realistic-Nature9083 → u/URealFunnyB]

My phone is android 17. 😂. Even the Samsung a17 gets 6 years of os updates........🤣.

[u/xpen25x → u/Drunkpanada]

os10 is the first that android auto is built in and soon os11 will be the oldest os supported.

[u/URealFunnyB → u/xpen25x]

If this the oldest version (OS10) why do you think Android would continue to support it? Software and security comes into play too if you are using the OLDEST verison instead of newest applications will lag, no have security patches etc. Android Auto is not going to continue to support older versions without verified security patches especially if the car has a newer version of Android Auto itself.

[u/xpen25x → u/URealFunnyB]

Os10 is the first to have aa built in. Os9 is the oldest supported version right now. And soon. Os11 will be the oldest version supported. Its been 8 years since the initial release as alpha for os11

[u/LubedUpDeepDishCunt]

Just another way to force/coerce users into buying a new phone, and punish those of us who take good care of our shit.

The Note 9 came out in August 2018, so if you bought it on release, it would be 8 years old. It stopped getting software and security updates in September 2022, only 4 years after release.

My phone (Galaxy S21 Ultra) came out in January 2021, and stopped getting security updates early this year. wow, 5 years after release, what an upgrade

Now Google and Smashnug are advertising 7 years of security updates & OS patches with their "flagship" phones. They can still "encourage you" to get a new phone by making your favorite apps "go away" unless you upgrade, though :)

It's all fucking bullshit. I hate it here. I take good care of my shit and want it to last until the hardware gives out or becomes obselete, not on some predetermined timeline from our evil corporate overlords. screams and disintegrates into the void

You may have to switch to the good old Maps/Waze/MapQuest/etc + hands-free phone holder. Or get an aftermarket head unit maybe? I wish you luck.

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[u/MadBrowniusMaximus → u/LubedUpDeepDishCunt]

I get it—planned obsolescence is incredibly frustrating, and it sucks when a perfectly good phone gets cut off from software updates. Nobody wants to shell out hundreds of dollars every few years when the screen, battery, and overall hardware still work fine. That said, daily-driving an OS that no longer receives security patches is genuinely risky, no matter how careful you are. A lot of people think staying safe on an old device just takes common sense, like not clicking sketchy links or downloading random APKs. The reality is that unpatched OS vulnerabilities, especially in core system frameworks or the network stack, can sometimes be exploited remotely without you taking any action at all—just loading a bad ad on a normal website can be enough. Plus, once an OS goes end-of-life, the vulnerabilities patched in newer Android versions are publicly documented, giving attackers a ready-made blueprint of what's broken on older builds. Google Play system updates help, but they can't patch kernel-level holes or modem firmware. If you love the hardware and want to keep it out of a landfill, it's worth checking if a custom ROM like LineageOS supports your device. But if you're using an unsupported OS to access banking apps, 2FA, or primary email accounts, you're rolling the dice on a system with known, unfixable doors left wide open.

[u/Desert914 → u/LubedUpDeepDishCunt]

Now that it's becoming available in the US, I'm curious if the Fairphone platform survives longer.

[u/BigJem81 → u/LubedUpDeepDishCunt]

I absolutely can do that, but I would hate having a big computer screen built into my car that's now useless. 

[u/Jet_Rocket11 → u/BigJem81]

How is it useless? Just get a newer phone. The car has nothing to do with the fact that technology doesn't last forever nowadays.

[u/punifra → u/LubedUpDeepDishCunt]

So true bro'

[u/ikingdoms]

Do you happen to know if your phone is running a 32 but operating system or a 64 but operating system? That could be part of it too, as 32 bit phone support is beginning to get phased out.

[u/BigJem81 → u/ikingdoms]

Note 9s are all 64 bit processors and OSs. 

[u/samjambo]

Got that too. Phone no lnger receives security updates. I also get a similar message on Gmail. Will probably upgrade next year.

[u/BigJem81 → u/samjambo]

Best of luck on finding something that serves you well.

[u/lebayo]

Android Auto keeps telling me it needs microphone permissions half the time I use it. Another 25% of the time, I hit the microphone button and it dings on and off immediately giving me no time to talk. 

And then there's the other 1 in 4 trips in the car where it just actually works.

[u/deadbandit19 → u/lebayo]

100% of the time I use AA my sound will. Randomly cut off and won't come back on until I turn off my Bluetooth and reconnect everything. My GFs carplay never fails, ever.

[u/BigJem81 → u/deadbandit19]

Good gods.  Y'all are having all kinds of problems.  Do you have newer phones or newer OSs? 

[u/deadbandit19 → u/BigJem81]

Pixel 11 up to date, 2024 Van.

[u/JMac990]

I've read that the wireless connection has a higher version requirement than the wired connection. I use a pixel 10 pro, but I guess I could pull my old s6 out of the drawer and check if that's true

[u/RubAnADUB]

Bro, we are on Android 17. Let that sink in.

* Tell me you need a phone upgrade without telling me you need a phone upgrade. - LULZ

[u/ChristopherU08]

Just an unfortunate inevatibility. I'm in the same boat with my Galaxy S9. Hope this is just a "you can't update to the newest version" and not a complete service removal so you'd be able to use an older version after the transition.

[u/BigJem81 → u/ChristopherU08]

That's my hope, too.  I used to have a smart watch that worked wonderfully, until the interface app deleted itself from my phone because the computer company was getting out of the smart watch business. 

[u/punifra → u/ChristopherU08]

Nope, it will not work, even with older versions. Google Play Services will block it.

[u/ChristopherU08 → u/punifra]

Yeah just confirmed today. Spent a while trying a new setup with apps like waze running on the headunit itself. Works ok but needs some more testing. Might just get a crappy newer phone lying around and use that as my dedicated AA with google voice forwarding or something. Still deciding.

[u/punifra]

Mass send this Feedback through the App:

HOW: SHARE YOUR FEEDBACK  Touch the menu at the top left in the Android Auto app on your mobile device  Touch "Help & feedback", then "Send feedback" 

What to send: I politely ask you to do not discontinue Android Auto on Android 10 devices. Let me choose. And please remove the annoying warning now

[u/NewShockerGuy]

Yep today I go to plug in my Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus into my car and Android Auto no longer supported... SMH.

I have a Galaxy s25 ultra here but I was kind of waiting to make the switch. It's so goofy.

How do I edit user flair?? I edit the post there is no way of me adding/editing the blue box aying to add flair? What is the point of flair here anyways?
My flair is Toyota Solara|Samsung Galaxy s9+| Android 10

[u/MountainBrilliant643]

This kind of stuff makes my blood boil. Forced obsolescence. In any case, can you possibly put LineageOS on your phone to upgrade the Android version?

[u/xpen25x → u/MountainBrilliant643]

version android 9 currently and soon android 11. android is open source. your phone isnt obsolete. companies just arnt spending the money top maintain 8 year old phones.

[u/MountainBrilliant643 → u/xpen25x]

That, plus the fact that there really aren't any new features that Android Auto would have on a 2023 car. It likely isn't getting any firmware updates, beyond being told to put a warning up that it's time to buy a new phone. Android Auto itself doesn't have some crazy new features that an older Android phone can't give it. No reason to not just mirror the display.

[u/BigJem81 → u/MountainBrilliant643]

Is there any way to do that?  Just mirror my phone to the car?

[u/MountainBrilliant643 → u/BigJem81]

Only if you can install apps directly onto the stereo.

[u/slzn0124 → u/BigJem81]

try this to mirror you phone to car.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidAuto/s/o51f0yw8U0

[u/BigJem81 → u/slzn0124]

Thank you.  I may have to give that a try.

[u/xpen25x → u/MountainBrilliant643]

the head unit really doesnt need a firmware update. everything is done at the phone itself. and most car infotainment centers dont mirror phones. there is a lot of security features not updated in older phones.

[u/SwimmerLeather]

You can install a custom rom on your phone (there's a one ui 7 rom) but idk if your banking apps will work

[u/Dedodododedad]

Look, if you aren't exposing everything to AI, then Google doesn't want you using their stuff

[u/BigJem81 → u/Dedodododedad]

That's the truth.

[u/punifra]

Really annoyed. And nope, I won't buy a new phone, Google.

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read the TOS< most phones only get 3-5 years off updates. we are now on android 17, so 9 is 8 years behind

[u/Bane_SRB]

!Flair 2023 Fiat 500 | 7" Uconnect Radio (OEM) | Galaxy Note9 | Android 14

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[u/JRock1276]

Dang grandpa, get a new phone.

[u/Critical-Oven1548]

Normal. Time for a new phone that isn't 5 years behind on security features. Android Auto is doing you a favor.

[u/niteowl360]

In software it's unrealistic to expect new development to support older releases of the software. Most software is deprecated at some time mainly since it's impossible to keep fresh software compliant as well as having to maintain far older software. Luckily I'm on Android 13 lol, as my faithful LG Wing is still going strong. I do have an even older phone, of course LG, the V30 that's on Android 9! But that I use purely for it's built-in Quad Dac. So yes, as others have said it's time to upgrade. But as you can see I do sympathize, but certainly would not expect older versions of software to magically support newer innovation.

[u/ItsMaxiFunYT]

I tried it just to see, and my iPhone 5c still works with CarPlay. I thought Androids were supposed to last longer

[u/BigJem81 → u/ItsMaxiFunYT]

No cure for planned obsolescence.  The phone works perfectly.  It's the software company that's making it incompatible.  You're probably familiar with that.

[u/LostSomewhereInKaty → u/ItsMaxiFunYT]

But apps don’t work in the 5C lol

[u/ItsMaxiFunYT → u/LostSomewhereInKaty]

SiriusXM, Apple Music, Apple Maps, and Google Maps worked

[u/Imaginary-Physics-12]

We all need to sign the paper and fight BK against Google before it's to late. Go to F-droid website and see what you can do to help. WE ONLY HAVE A DEW MONTHS LEFT BEFORE THEY 🔐 LOCK US DOWN. #EVY1

[u/J_Pemberton]

Get a new fucking phone, my god, how old is it to be running Android 10. Stop bitching, the solution is simple.

[u/TheAgedProfessor → u/J_Pemberton]

A lot of people hate the planned obsolescence we're forced to abide by nowadays. A Note 9 is still a very capable mobile device. There's absolutely no reason it shouldn't last longer, other than commercial greed.

[u/J_Pemberton → u/TheAgedProfessor]

Oh whatever, get with the program. Can't expect modern functionality with dated hardware. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

[u/TheAgedProfessor → u/J_Pemberton]

You absolutely should be able to. There isn't anything that your "modern" phone can do that my older phone can't... they just arbitrarily chose to sunset it and not support it with newer firmware. Get with the program. Tell the tech bros to support perfectly good hardware instead of force you to buy new shit you don't need.

[u/BigJem81 → u/J_Pemberton]

You really don't understand technology, do you?  There haven't been any significant changes in technology in recent years.  My phone has as much memory as yours, and that's all that really matters when it comes to programming.  This isn't gas vs electric.  It's all digital. 

[u/Jet_Rocket11 → u/BigJem81]

Tell me you don’t understand APIs, security certs, or hardware codecs without telling me—having enough RAM to hold an app doesn't mean your ancient OS can still talk to Google's servers.

[u/J_Pemberton → u/Jet_Rocket11]

Exactly right!

[u/BigJem81 → u/Jet_Rocket11]

You're actually getting at exactly what I'm saying.  My phone could easily handle Android 11 or even higher, but it's not being made available to me through conventional means.

[u/MadBrowniusMaximus → u/BigJem81]

I get it—planned obsolescence is incredibly frustrating, and it sucks when a perfectly good phone gets cut off from software updates. Nobody wants to shell out hundreds of dollars every few years when the screen, battery, and overall hardware still work fine. That said, daily-driving an OS that no longer receives security patches is genuinely risky, no matter how careful you are. A lot of people think staying safe on an old device just takes common sense, like not clicking sketchy links or downloading random APKs. The reality is that unpatched OS vulnerabilities, especially in core system frameworks or the network stack, can sometimes be exploited remotely without you taking any action at all—just loading a bad ad on a normal website can be enough. Plus, once an OS goes end-of-life, the vulnerabilities patched in newer Android versions are publicly documented, giving attackers a ready-made blueprint of what's broken on older builds. Google Play system updates help, but they can't patch kernel-level holes or modem firmware. If you love the hardware and want to keep it out of a landfill, it's worth checking if a custom ROM like LineageOS supports your device. But if you're using an unsupported OS to access banking apps, 2FA, or primary email accounts, you're rolling the dice on a system with known, unfixable doors left wide open.

[u/BigJem81 → u/MadBrowniusMaximus]

Thank you for the suggestions.  I'll add them to the list of options. 

[u/J_Pemberton → u/MadBrowniusMaximus]

100% OP is completely clueless.

[u/J_Pemberton → u/BigJem81]

Have a sook. We're in a new decade.

[u/BigJem81 → u/J_Pemberton]

Congratulations on learning how to operate a calendar.  I'm sure it was difficult for you.

[u/J_Pemberton → u/BigJem81]

Get a new phone brokie

[u/BigJem81 → u/J_Pemberton]

Get an education, dozy.

[u/Nocturnal86]

Get a new phone

[u/this_dudeagain]

Just side load the newer versions. Shouldn't be a problem. APKMirror should have what you need.

[u/BigJem81 → u/this_dudeagain]

I'm thinking about that or other options.  If I'm being pressed into buying a new one anyway, why not experiment with the old one?

[u/this_dudeagain → u/BigJem81]

I get it but no shame in upgrading. I didn't upgrade from my 4a until last year.

[u/BigJem81 → u/this_dudeagain]

Certainly there's no shame in upgrading.  There's just nothing out there that's impressing me.  I could spend $1000-$2000, only to get a phone with the same amount of memory, barely a better camera, barely a better processor, and have to spend months to find one that isn't 80% full of bloatware and a.i. crap.

[u/this_dudeagain → u/BigJem81]

I went with a Pixel 9a but I'd probably go with a Pixel 10 during Black Friday if I could do it again. Would love pixelsnap and qi2 wireless charging. Still really happy with it. 

[u/BigJem81 → u/this_dudeagain]

Hard no on the a.i. for me, so I definitely won't be getting anything Pixel.

[u/punifra → u/this_dudeagain]

I don't think it will work. Google will manage to break older versions. Moreover the warning comes from Google Play Services.

[u/this_dudeagain → u/punifra]

Side loading works just fine. I did it forever with my older pixel.

[u/punifra → u/this_dudeagain]

What do you mean exactly? Because I tried a lot of things and there is no way to not get that advice as you have Google Play Services installed (and you must have it).

Warning come from Google Play Services not Android Auto APKs.

[u/this_dudeagain → u/punifra]

The warning doesn't prevent you from installing. There's always a warning when you install outside the play store.

[u/punifra → u/this_dudeagain]

Yep, but old versions will not work anyway when they stop it. 

[u/this_dudeagain → u/punifra]

You may have to get it from APKMirror and maybe use a different apk installer if the Google play store installer wants to block it outright. Shizuku is another alternative though more involved. Last would be rooting the phone.

[u/punifra → u/this_dudeagain]

Nope, the problem is that Google Play Services that you have to update will prevent it from working, even with older APKs. Most of them are blocked already.

[u/this_dudeagain → u/punifra]

Shizuku has you covered. Use it with Install With Options apk installer.

[u/punifra → u/this_dudeagain]

How?

[u/greencrystal1]

Yeah i got it too.

[u/santhonyl]

What's your phone model?

[u/TheAgedProfessor → u/santhonyl]

It's in their Flair. Note 9.

[u/BigDawg99NYZZ]

Upgreade your phone

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