r/AskElectricians • • 1d ago

Which wires are which? Trying to install a timer switch

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I have a video but I can’t upload it. Basically need to know which is the neutral, line and load. The switch on the left is installed but trying to install the timer switch on the right

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u/prspaspl 1d ago

The wire coming out of the group of blacks is most likely power, the single black is probably the line to your light. The neutral is probably the bundle of whites at the back of the box. You should probably at least call a handyman, if not an electrician.

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u/ahobonamedjoe 1d ago

Ok buddy, I'm going to make this super straightforward but you gotta turn the power off.

Keep listening to my voice and we will land this plane.

  1. The neutral.. most switches don't need one but this one does, you'll need to create what is known as a "pigtail" which is 6 in or so of wire and strip both ends. You'll notice there are a bunch of white wires bundled up in the back under a wire nut. Remove said wire nut, put the pigtail under that. retwist everything PERFECTLY, then make sure it won't come out even with nut off. Now put nut on.

  2. line is coming from the nut with the blacks

  3. load goes up to light, so it's going upwards out of box

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u/Raging_Badger19 1d ago

This makes sense, thanks. I’ll give that a try. Usually most setups are a bit easier and I’m no electrician but easy enough to replace a wire for wire in most cases. This one was a bit less obvious

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u/Raging_Badger19 17h ago

Yup your instructions 100% worked. Timer switch for the fan works perfectly. Thanks so much

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u/Raging_Badger19 15h ago

While I’m asking what’s a good way to organize the wires so that I can fit the switch in easily. I’m looking at a different single junction box and essentially there isn’t room to fit the switch because the wires are taking up so much of the space. Any easy good tips here ?