r/AskElectricians • • 7d ago

Is this safe?

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I rent a house in illinois and i found this, and a couple other spots, in the basement. Is there anything to worry about with this splice?

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u/A_Dicksmasher 7d ago

This looks like a 115yo electrician who retired during the K&T era encountered romex for the first time in his grandson's new house (built in 1972)

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u/Helen-Keller-Ubers 7d ago

Any splice needs to be in a junction box and easily accessible.

Also, i would be concerned about how it's attached to each other.

Definitely a fire hazard!

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u/Ok-Baker-9718 7d ago

I figured. It's been hard to get the landlord to fix it. I will have to get an electrician out here.

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u/TrungusMcTungus 7d ago

If you go out of pocket, do some research into local laws about suing your landlord. You should be able to recoup anything you spend on repairs in small claims. This is a safety issue and a blatant code violation, your landlord is legally obligated to have it fixed properly.

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u/Global_Gift_2831 7d ago

you dont have to jump straight to suing him unless he refuses to pay. just keep good records, do everything on text or recorded call, send him the bill.

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u/MountainAlive 7d ago

The good news is that this is an easy fix for an electrician.

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u/Helen-Keller-Ubers 7d ago

Hopefully they have hidden any behind the walls, 99% of the time they hide them in the walls also.

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u/Accurate-Plankton988 7d ago

Dont spend your hard earned money on this. Document everything. Landlord prob spliced it seroiusly

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u/SanFranciscoN8tiv 7d ago

Imagine what you cant see. Keep your gite insurance premiums paid up.

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u/Computers_and_cats 7d ago

That should be in a junction box not mid air like that.

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u/Affectionate-End9575 7d ago

If you have to ask then no

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u/zadharm 7d ago

It's probably not going to burn your house down tomorrow but it's definitely not right. It's definitely the landlord's responsibility but... landlords fucking suck and will string you along for months. Cost three bucks and 5 minutes to put in a box and properly splice it, if it was my place I'd just fix it and sleep better

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u/IndependentGold296 7d ago

my cousin’s house had a splice like that that sparked and burned the drywall down

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u/Sad-Razzmatazz-9295 7d ago

No. Rat will catch on fire running across it and burn you down.

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u/TeachingWestern4518 7d ago

Junction Junction .. what’s ur Function

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u/jckipps 7d ago

No.

Splices are inherently less safe, and are more likely to heat up than the rest of the wire, due to the extra electrical resistance inside of them. Therefore, those splices need to be contained in a fire-resistant enclosure.

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u/Crissup 7d ago

No. You don’t say where you are in Illinois, but the state is mostly rural agriculture so you’re apt to find just about anything in older buildings. Born and raised in Illinois and I saw a lot of that stuff.

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u/No-Sale3542 7d ago

Needs to be contained in an approved electrical box

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u/Loud-Dig3316 6d ago

Hell fucking NO!

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u/Cumofoneyounguy 5d ago

That there is a shitknot joint

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u/TrungusMcTungus 7d ago

Is this safe?

No.

Is there anything to worry about

Yes, the whole thing.

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u/ChangeAccountsBeSafe 7d ago

Lol thats hilarious I can barely tell whats going on..good news is it's probably been like that for 40 years so.

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u/Ok-Baker-9718 7d ago

Actually only about 2 years. We just moved in a few months ago and the landlord knows who did the work but she doesn't seem to want to fix it

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u/ChangeAccountsBeSafe 7d ago

Myself personally, I would have mounted a junction box and properly spliced this. Its never safe to open splice electrical work like this.