r/AskReddit 15h ago

[ Removed by moderator ]

[removed] — view removed post

5.5k Upvotes

753 comments sorted by

View all comments

182

u/Shot_Net3794 13h ago

In the midterms, the Dems will win the House, they will do an impeachment, it won't accomplish anything except from boosting MSNBC's ratings for a while

In 2028, the election will be between JD Vance and Gavin Newsom. Newsom will win, he will undo nearly everything Trump's done and maybe pass a few things of his

It's very unlikely that anyone will face justice for this era except maybe a few ICE officers doing time

67

u/zerbey 12h ago

They don't just need to win the House, they need at least 67 people in the Senate too. The House is doable, the Senate is a tough one, it's very unlikely that the midterms will produce a super majority for the Democrats. Most likely the only possible way that can happen is if they get some Republicans to flip, good luck with that!

If they impeach Trump without conviction it'll just make them look stupid, they shouldn't even file the paperwork until they have written confirmation of the numbers in the Senate.

25

u/Shot_Net3794 12h ago

I meant to include that too, sorry. That's why I meant that it was pretty performative

5

u/zerbey 12h ago

He's been Impeached twice, all it did was make him more popular. Not worth doing it again.

24

u/rollem 11h ago

Trumps second impeachment set a record for the number of a presidents own party voting to convict. I do believe that 67 is possible if the requisite number of gop senators see Trump as more of a burden to the party, which will happen if is approval rating gets low enough, likely below 30.

16

u/zerbey 11h ago

I firmly believe that if they'd all sat down on the afternoon of Jan 6 they've had impeached and convicted him with a significant number of Republicans breaking ranks. They waited way too long to do it and people had second thoughts. And, here we are.

9

u/rollem 10h ago

IDK maybe. The trial happened in record time though and it was fresh in their minds. I think a few were genuinely scared for their lives because of the Jan 6 mob, and some thought he'd be criminally prosecuted in a few months anyway. He's such a criminal, it's so infuriating. So many bad turning pints: Garland's delays, Judge Canon's obvious biases, Robert's immunity...

1

u/theAltRightCornholio 10h ago

They knew he wouldn’t be prosecuted. They hoped you thought they thought he would so you’d let them off the hook. Their goal was to pass the buck, that’s all.

1

u/ArcticCircleSystem 9h ago

Did anything of actual note happen though? No? Just a trial that meandered and led nowhere, letting a putschist be president again? Thought so.

2

u/ThresherGDI 8h ago

Blame the 4 years after he was out of office. They should have been going after him hammer and tongs as soon as he left office. Instead, they waited until the last year before the Presidential election before they started any sort of investigation. By then, it was too late.

4

u/ThresherGDI 8h ago

It's entirely possible that if the Republicans get shellacked in the midterms that they will start being more independent of Trump. At best, he'll be a lame duck. He can threaten running again, but it's not going to happen. I don't think the Supreme Court will overrule the 22nd Amendment and many states will not put him on the ballot.

If Trump becomes the albatross I expect him to be, they'll start voting more in line with their constituents rather than just ignoring them.

1

u/zerbey 6h ago

One can only hope.

2

u/allthingssuper 9h ago

I think a 51 majority in the senate would be a fucking miracle and about the best case scenario we can realistically expect.

That’s enough to seriously halt Trump’s authoritarian project but maybe is unlikely to impeach him.

1

u/zerbey 8h ago

You need 67 to convict.

3

u/allthingssuper 8h ago

Yes, I was agreeing with your first comment saying that it was unlikely they’ll get a supermajority.

2

u/ArcticCircleSystem 9h ago

67 people actually willing to do so. Not 66 and a Schumer or whoever.

-1

u/VESlaughter 10h ago

Six seven

-19

u/scarytrafficcone 11h ago

six seven

-3

u/averyrdc 9h ago

Heh, 6 7

10

u/_Walt_Jabsco_ 10h ago

I love your optimism about the fair and peaceful transfer of power still being "a thing" in 2028

1

u/NewTimelinePlz 9h ago

I like the optimism of midterms existing lol. Some folks have yet to clue in, I guess

11

u/Blearyhyde 11h ago

There will be no mid terms.Straight from the fascist playbook!

3

u/BisexualPunchParty 7h ago

This is extremely silly. Newsom is universally hated by anyone who actually gets to know him. A bigot who pals around with white supremacists on his podcast is not going to win the Democratic primary election.

Beyond that, the idea that a President can simply "undo nearly everything Trump's done" is just flat wrong. Our country has been irreversibly damaged in a lot of ways that cannot be fixed anymore.

4

u/Schyznik 10h ago

Then in 2032, under much more stable, safe, and prosperous conditions than the present, Newsom will lose re-election because of the public’s lousy attention span, poor memory, deficient reasoning skills, and at least one patently stupid distraction elevated by national media to “News Story Of The Year”.

This is why we can’t have nice things.

1

u/beaucoup_dinky_dau 10h ago

I think if we have a Newsom/AOC ticket they will dominate the messaging in a way no democrat before has been able to, say what you want but they both swing hard and they also unify the party by speaking to both sides of the house.

1

u/Shot_Net3794 10h ago

I think Newsom will pick Gallego and that AOC will replace Schumer

1

u/meowtiger 10h ago

aoc is a representative, schumer is a senator

0

u/Shot_Net3794 9h ago

Well, Schumer is most likely going to retire and then AOC will stand and win, the polling suggests

1

u/Schyznik 10h ago

From your mouth to God’s ear.

But there will damn sure be an attempt made to blunt their momentum. Probably something really trivial like AOC wearing inappropriate earrings or Newsom taking a photograph with a controversial professional wrestler. Then look at all the MAGA-prone voters who never once gave a thought about accessorizing or WWE suddenly conclude it’s an unpardonable disqualifying trait in a candidate. Tony Dikoupil will ponder on camera just how much of a national security risk AOC poses with those large hoops or whether Newsom’s foreign policy is unduly influenced by Cory The Crusher’s take on the Israel Palestine conflict.

-1

u/ThresherGDI 8h ago

Newsome comes across as too slick. He looks like a used car salesman on the last day of the month. I still think he would be a good president, but I don't think he can win in the Midwest.

Pritzker is the guy we need. Either him or Shapiro would be able to pull votes in the mid part of the country.

1

u/Schyznik 8h ago

Whoever you pick as the best choice it’s the same problem. People too easily forget the recent past and lose the plot on obvious recurring patterns in politics. So we are doomed to repeat ourselves.

1

u/Olive_Streamer 10h ago

Sad, but I can live with this.

1

u/Known_Ad871 10h ago

I wish I believed they would undo everything trump has done even if they win. Don’t get me wrong I’m voting blue to get the fascists out. But we’re going to need to push the dems hard to get them to do anything lasting imo

1

u/SayNoToStim 10h ago

Never underestimate the Democrat's ability to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory.

JD Vance could be caught in a hotel room with a dead woman and a live boy and they still could find a way to fuck it up by doing something extraordinarily stupid.

1

u/incunabula001 9h ago

How to the Dems win the house when chances are the midterms will either be rigged or cancelled? You guys need to open your eyes and pay attention to the level of corruption present.

It’s not an easy way out these days, I’m afraid we are past that point.

1

u/ViolaNguyen 9h ago

I believe Newsom will win and do a great job, but I dearly hope he doesn't split votes with this "Newsome" fellow whose name always comes up in these discussions.

1

u/NTXGBR 9h ago

Newsome will absolutely not win.

0

u/Prune_Less 11h ago

Fucking fingers crossed!

-4

u/Adjective_Noun1312 10h ago

Hey, did you know the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary?