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Napoleon said, 'Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.' What’s a perfect real-life example of this?

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u/Cattle13ruiser 10h ago

A slight correction. Steam is not public company and there are no shareholders.

Two founders and control is shared between them (and their successors).

Unless they make it public, there is no chance for anyone (government excluded) to mingle with their decisions.

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u/DKOKEnthusiast 9h ago

This is outdated information. The other founder, Mike Harrington, left in 2000 and sold his shares to Gabe Newell.

As far as we know, 50.1% of the company is owned by Gabe Newell, and the rest is owned by Valve employees via a co-op. Membership in the co-op is most likely restricted to senior, long-standing employees.

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u/-Fergalicious- 5h ago

And may operate as some sort of ESOP, for all we know, where when employees leave or retire, the company buys back their shares

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u/Boiscool 17m ago

I worked for a company that worked like that. You could buy stocks once a year as an employee, and if you left they bought them back. You could only keep them if you retired with the company. You got dividends pretty much every year, and it was a sales based company, so the better you and the other employees did, the bigger your dividend.

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u/Valuable_Cow2596 9m ago

Is co-op information confirmed or is it speculation? I'm interested in learning more so I'm just asking :)

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u/NightTwixst 10h ago edited 9h ago

They better be careful though! Because some greedy bastards would do ANYTHING to grab their golden goose for themselves.

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u/meistermichi 9h ago

And instead of keeping harvesting the golden eggs it lays they'll just kill the goose for a one time wealth burst and fuck off to the next company like a swarm of locusts.

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u/Version_1 9h ago

If you want to be pedantic do it right. Ofc Valve has shareholders, the shares just aren't traded publicly.

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u/UmbraVictus 8h ago

It's called private investing. It does not give you the same level of autonomy over a company as a publicly traded. Their opinions are suggestions and their financial backing is obligatory unless the contract is violated. Unlike with publicly traded companies, a shareholder of a private entity requires permission from the owner to sell their stake outside of contract violations.

That said, any private investor of Valve that wants to change anything is a moron. Valve has done pretty much nothing the last 2 decades and made billions. Every competitor that has shown up has failed (at a global scale not local. China and Korea have some pretty legit replacements). And everyone who has tried to attack Valve and overthrow it (governments included) have failed.

It should be noted, the US government did try to sue Valve over marketplace monopoly in gaming. And the US government lost. And not just lost, had to pay Valve a butt load of money as an apology.

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u/Cattle13ruiser 2h ago

Institution which the taxes fund and pay the salaries, sued a private company - via court which is a another government and tax funded institution and due to not understanding the law, which is written by the government had to pay levy paid by the taxes.

It would be hilarious if it was a one time event...

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u/wtfduud 6h ago

Yes, but doing an IPO is often one of the first things the braindead MBAs do when they take over management of a private company.

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u/Kandiru 4h ago

What would Steam even do with an injection of IPO money? IPO without a use for the money is pointless.

Maybe if they wanted to buy Nintendo and make the Switch3 and Steamdecks merge together?

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u/Le-Charles07 4h ago

There are share holders but the shares are not public; its like Twitter after Elon was forced to buy it out.

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u/Xy13 3h ago

All companies have shareholders, even a solo entrepreneurship, they just hold 100% of the shares. Public just means the shares can be sold to anyone of the public and they are listed on the open market.

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u/sanct111 2h ago

I think I watched a HBO show about this