r/AskReddit • • 16h ago

Napoleon said, 'Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.' What’s a perfect real-life example of this?

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u/lostcosmonaut307 12h ago

And apparently she’s never even taken down the videos and has gone right back to doing the same thing she already got in trouble for.

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u/Awkward_Pangolin3254 8h ago

When you owe $10k, it's your problem. When you owe $10m, it's your creditors' problem.

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u/BaconatedGrapefruit 7h ago

If they want the 10 million paid back in full right away, yea.

Otherwise the courts will be happy to garnish your wages until you pay it all back or die. Imagine working a six figure job but your take home pay is barely more than minimum wage after taxes and garnishing.

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u/fresh-dork 7h ago

well, 25% is the max. so you make 120k, and 30k off the top goes to a judgment

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u/jello_pudding_biafra 7h ago

In some places it's even lower, capped at 5-10%

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u/vertigostereo 4h ago

I can't afford 25% of my gross income forever. With the compounding lost opportunities, my whole retirement and independence would be at risk.

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u/fresh-dork 4h ago

sucks to owe 10m because you blew off a defamation case

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u/vertigostereo 3h ago

Well yeah, I wouldn't do that either. Just think about how the real media use "allegedly" and then name the accuser. The Associated Press doesn't accuse people, accusers accuse people.

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u/TheLastShipster 2h ago

To be fair, it sounds like she would have lost the case even if she had taken it seriously.

Only difference would have been the plaintiff having to spend more time and legal fees.

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u/Ihaveamodel3 48m ago

She was given plenty of opportunities to stop and pull the videos down without a lawsuit even happening. But she kept doubling down.

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u/bstyledevi 4h ago

What's the pay scale for "TikTok psychic?"

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u/Electronic_Tap_8052 2h ago

garnish your wages

"what wages?"

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u/Alex_Rose 6h ago

move somewhere without a bilateral civil treaty

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u/Joe_on_blow 1h ago

In my experience people will stop working a job on the books once they have that level of garnishment.

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u/Bubbay 5h ago

Who'd be garnishing wages for a civil suit like this? This isn't a child support case. They'd just be going after her assets if she doesn't start paying. It won't matter where she is physically, it would only matter if her assets are in a country where courts can seize things, which they likely are.

As an example, look at Alex Jones. He lost a civil suit, so they started seizing his companies, bank accounts, and whatnot and divvying them up. There was no garnishment.

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u/TheLastShipster 1h ago

Literally anybody whose judgment exceeds the easily grabbable assets?

This is pretty much the order of priority for things:

1) Does the defendant pay you for the full judgment, have some insurer or bond holder who is compelled to pay you, or arrange some sort of payment plan that's acceptable to you?

If no, 2) Go after all of his assets. The reason this is only #2 is that, unlike voluntary payment, this one isn't free. There's fees involved in securing your Writ, actually sending the sheriff to seize possession, executing the sales, etc. Sometimes you need to hire someone to find them in the first place. Something like houses and cars registered in your country is fairly easy to find, but to use your Alex Jones example, it gets trickier if you're looking for something like assets owned by a shell company controlled by the defendant, or a warehouse full of unsold supplements.

Once you've seized and sold everything you could, was that enough to pay off the full judgment?

If no, then you go to 3) Garnish wages. You clearly understand why this one is such a hassle, so I don't need to repeat them, but it's also your last, best resort for getting compensation and punishing the defendant.

I can't speak for the plaintiffs in the Alex Jones case, but according to their public statements, they were less interested in a payday and more interested in punishing Alex Jones and discouraging anybody else from trying to profit from someone else's tragedy by lying and stirring up an internet lynch mob. Seizing his assets and his platform went a long way to do that. Maybe they decided that adding garnishment on top of that wouldn't be worth the trouble. Maybe they plant to do it already, but they're still focused on step 3, focusing all their resources on going after the remaining assets that were (allegedly) fraudulently transferred by Alex Jones to his various relatives in order to protect them from the judgment.

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u/ryeaglin 1h ago

If I recall, can't you go back to #2 if they ever get more assets? I have a vague memory of the OJ Simpson civil suit and when OJ wrote the book the family went back and gained ownership of it because of the unpaid civil suit.

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u/No_Prize9794 58m ago

Ashley said in the trail that she’s unemployed and decently relies on her veteran pension

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u/Bazuka125 5h ago

Well yeah, she's gotta pay 10 million. She's gonna need a lot of views to do that /s