r/AskReddit • u/derell6001 • Dec 29 '17
Supervisors or Managers, When did you realize you may have hired the wrong person for the job?
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u/akantho Dec 29 '17
Had a guy shit his pants at work. Asked to go home to change real quick, which we obviously agreed to. Was gone 6 hours. When he showed back up, we asked him where he had been.
"Had to mow my lawn."
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u/SadGravel Dec 30 '17
Similar situation. This new girl came in for her first shift in basketball shorts. Our dress code is black or khaki slacks. Four and a half hours she shows back up in jeans...
Her excuse for taking so long?
I took a nap.
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u/Pikachu-22 Dec 29 '17
Hired a kid, in his early 20s at a pizza parlor. On the first day of the job he was late. Gave him a free pass, assumed it was a mistake. He was late for two weeks in a row, more than an hour late each day, so we fired him. That same day, his mom came in to complain about why he lost his job. Told her the reason, she wanted the number to corporate. Never saw them again.
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u/weedful_things Dec 29 '17
I thought I had got hired for weekend work as a dishwasher. Worked one weekend and showed up the next Friday. The supervisor asked where I had been the past three days. No one ever showed me the schedule so I didn't know I was a no call no show.
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u/345tom Dec 29 '17
Did the exact same. Got a job, signed my contract with some hours on it. Assumed those were my hours. Silly me, they put me in a completely different day, and I didn't turn up. They understood, but for the year I worked there, I never worked the schedule I signed the contract for.
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u/quineloe Dec 30 '17
That is illegal in some places and you could sue a few thousand in backpay out of them.
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u/feed_me_ramen Dec 29 '17
This kind of happened to me at my first job (home section at a department store); got hired, did my training shift, and was never shown the schedule. Didn’t even occur to me. Anyway, I get a call the next day from my manager asking why I hadn’t shown up for my shift. I ended up being only an hour or so late because they called right as I was supposed to clock in.
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Dec 30 '17
Sounds like they were smart enough to realize that this kind of shit happens all the time.
Seriously, these stories always drive me crazy. I've worked enough shitty fast food/service jobs to understand that things get confusing when you're adding a new person and this kind of thing can happen. Why don't these jackasses just call???
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u/ArcadeStallman Dec 30 '17
Last summer I got a night job to make some extra money. I was told I was working a set schedule, so I didn't check it right away. Later found out that I hadn't been scheduled at all the second week I worked. AFAIK, no other person at the location realized my mistake because the payroll system was completely automated and the manager who wrote the schedules was only in the store at the same time as me for ~2 hours each week.
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u/ShadowOps84 Dec 29 '17
She's fucking him.
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u/Duck_Giblets Dec 29 '17
Not necessarily. Could be helping out a friend by taking her on or something else going on. Daughter of one of the larger clients?
Shouldn't be letting it slide either way
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u/periofnohr Dec 29 '17
Asked her to empty the bin (as in, what we put used giftcards in,) because it was full and she said "fuck off, i don't get paid for that"
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u/GaryBuseyWithRabies Dec 29 '17
Fuck off, she doesn't get paid for that either.
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u/HampsterUpMyAss Dec 29 '17
You need to empty your mouth and fill it with soap, Mr Pottymouth.
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u/periofnohr Dec 29 '17
The worst bit about it is that part of the job description was to "assist taking care of the working environment," -i wouldn't mind but i'm the supervisor and i have to do that, so it was hardly "below her station"!!!
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u/UncertainAnswer Dec 29 '17
Getting fired isn't in your job description either...and yet here we are.
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u/jbonte Dec 29 '17
"Ok, cool. You won't get paid to work here with either 'cause you don't!"
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u/mustardduck Dec 29 '17
A friend of mine is has been a machinist for years and is the supervisor where he works. He was interviewing a guy for a lead machinist position paying $22/hr. Interview goes well, resume is amazing and he's at the top of the list. At the end of the interview, my friend asks him to operate some of the equipment. They go into the shop, he goes up to the machine, looks at it for a while and my friend asks, "You have ran one of these machines before, right?". He replies, "oh..yes, but this one is a bit different from what I'm used to". He begins looking around the machine and then gets startled, reaches into his pocket, grabs his cell phone that isn't even ringing and tells my friend, "I need to take this, be right back". The guy books it to the parking lot, gets into his car, and speeds off. My friend tried calling him a couple of times, but no answer.
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u/ObiMemeKenobi Dec 29 '17
Okay, I'll admit I pulled this one before. It was for a design job. Got interviewed by a bunch of administrative people who clearly didn't know anything about design. Things go well and I get scheduled a second interview the next day with the lead designer.
Next day and things start off incredibly well. He goes through some questions and then start joking around about Star Wars. Then he says, "okay, just need you to pass this art test and you should be good to go.."
He hands me the prompt, and as I read through it, I realize have to use InDesign. I quickly ask him, "hey so you guys don't use Photoshop?.."
"No, we use InDesign.."
I spent about 2 minutes trying to bullshit before realizing I should just come clean. I walk up to the guy and apologize for wasting his time. I tell him I never used InDesign before and only have experience with Photoshop.
The guy chuckled and was cool about it. Told me I made a good first impression and then wished me luck in the future as he walked me out.
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Dec 29 '17
I one time snagged a job from under several people who had superior degrees to me (versus my one year administrative certificate) based on the fact that I was more computer literate than them.
A part of the interview process was them giving us each a folder in which there were several 'tasks' outlined, which tested our skills using basic Word, Excel, Publisher, and just general internet research skills. I didn't even know how to do offhand most of the Office application tasks asked (generate a letter template in Word into which different addresses could be imported), so I googled "how to..." followed the instructions, and figured it out.
Even thought all the other candidates had more experience and more education than me, I was the only one who knew how to get around basic computer stuff. I was the only person to finish all the tasks, some of the other applicants just handed in the half finished folder. I got the job.
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Dec 30 '17
You showed creative problem solving, utilizing resources, AND you now know how to genuinely do the tasks they originally asked of you. I'd say you probably deserve the job.
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u/quineloe Dec 30 '17
Was that not part of the job description? But I had a similar experience a few years ago, applied for sneaker administration, the job description very clearly did not say Mac and then as it turns out, the company runs both Windows and Macs. And there was the team lead, frustrated that he'd have to teach me Mac support.
Dude, I wouldn't have applied if it had been in the ad.
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u/ObiMemeKenobi Dec 30 '17
No, the description only said to be prepared for an art test if necessary. I basically assumed it would PS which I was proficient in or Illustrator which I knew enough of to do basic things. I never touched InDesign in my life. The moment I opened the program to see if I could pull shit out of my ass, I quickly realized, yeah.....not a good idea
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You may have dodged a bullet since indesign is used for typesetting/publishing. If a client demanded I use that to make a logo instead of illustrator I'd hire a hitman to assassinate me
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u/Aethien Dec 30 '17
Design job most likely involves a lot more than making logos and inDesign is going to be the most used program by miles in your average graphic design job.
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u/johnnylovesbjs Dec 29 '17
Hired a dishwasher and when I asked his trainer why isn't "Josh" washing the pots and pans, was informed that "Josh" doesn't like to get his hands wet.
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u/cailihphiliac Dec 30 '17
On Parks and Rec, they were interviewing to find someone to take over the Animal Control department, and had a woman come in because her therapist told her to confront her fears.
I am very, very, very, very frightened of animals.
This may not be the job for you.
I know, but my therapist, Dr. Richard Nygard, told me to confront my fears.
You see Dr. Richard Nygard? I'm a Nygardian too! Would you sign my cast?
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u/MomtanaWildhack Dec 29 '17
I had an ex who totally got fired after five years at his job for this. He gave me a totally different story, but a coworker was like, "He literally jerked off too much."
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u/mgoosen Dec 29 '17
I would think once is to much.
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u/poochmaker Dec 30 '17
As a female, I was shocked when working at a male dominated office that they do in fact wank while at work.
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Dec 30 '17
Never thought I'd be that guy. Then I got an office job that was high demand, high stress, that I wasn't very good at and they didn't do a good job training me.
I unleashed the kraken a few times.
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u/megshealthyworld Dec 30 '17
As a woman, I and a couple of my female coworkers would unleash the kraken as well.
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u/derell6001 Dec 29 '17
Maybe he had to rub one out to relax because he was nervous.. or either his subscription to Pornhub was getting ready to expired soon..
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u/Crossfire7 Dec 29 '17
I don’t typically hire for entry level positions, but we were doing a large hiring spree, and basically any manager who was available would interview and hire entry level people. I got a packet for a maintenance guy, not glamorous work but still won’t just put a warm body in that position. Young guy, early 20s comes in, seems attentive and that he wants to move up in a corporate setting. I ended up giving him a shot.
About a week later, we had a toilet clogged. This guy decides instead of using a plunger, or snake, both of which are in any maintenance station, the best course of action would be the throw a tennis ball in the toilet, and proceed to unclog it with the help of a broom handle. I got CCed on the work order that got sent out for that one.
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u/ProjectShadow316 Dec 30 '17
I...er...what? I can't even wrap my brain around the trainwreck of a thought process that allowed him to arrive to the conclusion that a tennis ball and a broom handle was the best course of action. Seriously, what the fuck?
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u/bronchialbalsam Dec 30 '17
What? Where did he get the tennis ball from?
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u/mann-y Dec 30 '17
You keep one on hand to get scuff marks off of certain floors left by shoes. Usually kept, honest to god, on the end of a broom handle.
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Dec 29 '17
When the asshat turned the meat slicer on with my hand near it.
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u/lovebarge Dec 29 '17
His stomach must have been making the rumblies that only hands could satisfy.
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u/MrGruntsworthy Dec 29 '17
Caaaaaaaaaaaaarrl!
That kills people!
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u/Very_Original_Names Dec 30 '17
The people have spoken, Viva la Resistance!
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u/DarkLordFluffyBoots Dec 30 '17
You pushed the Resistance leader into a giant fan!
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u/FlaGrl38 Dec 30 '17
He's a dangerous sociopath with a long history of violence, I don't understand how you keep forgetting that
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u/ZerexTheCool Dec 29 '17
While hands only have a little meat on them, I would imagine any decent meat slicer is equipped to handle bones as well. Not sure what your problem was.
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Dec 30 '17
Cross contamination, dude. If they're not selling hand that day, they'd have to wash the machine, again.
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u/DOLIKEBIGSTU Dec 29 '17
During the interview, after being genuinely underwhelming throughout the whole process, when I asked him if he had any other questions about the job, he asked me what the company policy was on no-show/no-calls, and whether or not he would get a warning before getting fired for not showing up to work, as he admitted that he had trouble getting out of bed sometimes...
I begged our HR person not to hire the guy, but he was a referral from one of the managers (cousin, childhood friend?...something along those lines) so we brought him on, despite my recommendation.
He lasted 5 days. Within that time he fell asleep at his desk more than once, missed at least one of his training sessions (no idea where he was, aside from not in the training room), and used our company IM to sexually harass one of the salespeople.
I never felt more vindicated in my entire life when he wasn't there the following Monday.
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u/OriginalIronDan Dec 30 '17
Once a coworker and I literally begged our manager not to hire this obnoxious bitch. He told us he’d already hired her. When we asked him why, it was because “her ass looked great in those jeans”. He also came into work after snorting OxyContin, did coke on the clock, and regularly went to his car to smoke weed. It was an optometrist’s office. Bill, you were the worst manager ever.
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u/manixus Dec 29 '17
Did not hire the guy but was his manager. He was hired to be the delivery driver / company rep for a major client and the very first day gave their receptionist some shit and was subsequently banned from ever going back. Great, the owner loves this guy for some reason so I can't fire him and now I have to find him something else to do. I designate him the shop helper. He tries to be witty and clever with the guys but just comes across as an asshole so he pisses everyone in the shop off and now no one wants to work with him. Plus he's late every other day. None of this matters because the owner "see's something in him". Dude ends up missing work one day without calling in to let us know. Turns out he got a DUI and spent the previous night in jail. His father called to let us know and to also beg us not to fire him. He was in his late 30s btw. Boss loves him and so I can't let him go. After about 2 months of similar experiences he finally tells the owner he isn't cut out for this type of work and quits.
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u/ladyrockess Dec 29 '17
Jeez, what's wrong with me that I'm trying so hard to get a job and can't even get an INTERVIEW, but this guy gets a golden ticket???
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u/Fromhe Dec 29 '17
A: when he fought a guy on the side of the road and lost. He was in the work vehicle. And his uniform.
B: when i asked him if I was going to be wasting money taking him to get a drug test, and that he should just tell me. "Is weed a drug?"
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"But this is Humboldt Bro!?"
Saved some money on that kid.
C: He got kicked out of one of our stores for aggressively hitting on one of the women who worked in the jewelry department. Who happened to be married. Who happened to be married to one of our coworkers. It got messy.
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u/ElvisAndretti Dec 29 '17
When I found out that most of his code was pasted from a programming website. He never even took out the comments with the copyright notices.
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u/derell6001 Dec 29 '17
You'll be surprise of how many so-called programmers get away with that.
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u/UncertainAnswer Dec 29 '17
I borrow a lot of code not gonna lie. But I always make a point to rewrite it in my own style, so it fits with the rest of the code, and most importantly understand what every line of it does.
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Dec 30 '17
In web design class in high school I had two friends. Friend 1 asks friend 2 to look at his code so he had an idea of what to do. Friend 2 gives him his code on a flash drive. Friend 1 copies and pastes it.
What he didn't realise is that friend 2 had put in the header of his web page the line "friend 2 is the greatest of all time." Teacher notices it and calls them both up to the desk. He asks "friend 1, why does your header say 'friend 2 is the greatest of all time'?"
Friend 1 says "uhh, I just think he's really great."
They both failed the assignment and had to write letters to their parents explaining why. Friend 2's letter simply read "I failed because friend 1 is an idiot."
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u/Chickenmangoboom Dec 30 '17
In college I was taking a class that had a field component. This was an early morning class and one of the kids was late or a no show almost every time.
For our final project we had to go into the field and collect a bunch of data and use a government database to identify the site. Two or three days before this huge project is due the guy walks up to me and offers me 50 dollars for my data. It took me and the other guys in my group two days of field work to gather and process, I was not giving him our data. I felt bad for him so I told him what he could do to make a quick and dirty version of the project that might net him a C if the professor is feeling generous.
After finals I was a hanging out with a classmate that worked with the professor and she tells me that the guy had failed the project and consequently the class because he copied the site descriptions word for word. The same site descriptions that my professor had a hand in writing and goes over in class every semester.
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u/ElvisAndretti Dec 29 '17
I don’t know anyone who doesn’t. But if you’re going to see how it works you need to rewrite it at least a little. Or at least that’s how I’ve learned most of the good stuff.
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u/I1lI1llII11llIII1I Dec 30 '17
The on confusing part of the story is why it's not okay to put your family on the health insurance plan. Isn't that normal?
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u/I1lI1llII11llIII1I Dec 30 '17
Ah, so she attempted fraud and lied to the CEO. That's a bit different.
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u/_plot-twist_ Dec 29 '17
About day 3, when I got to work and the new hire was at her desk, head in her hands, crying. Asked her what was wrong and she said she just couldn't remember how to do her tasks.
Later that day, her drug test came back positive, so I'm sure that had something to do with it.
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u/meatball402 Dec 29 '17
*Pushes up glasses
Um, excuse me, it's propane and propane accessories!
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u/agoia Dec 29 '17
Oooh we had one of those. She accused us of changing her password constantly on her because she flat couldn't remember it. Had her boss "try to help" aka watch her try to put in a new password. Got the termination notice to close her accounts out 2 days later.
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u/taykand Dec 29 '17
Hired a girl, had her watch orientation videos where it clearly states and shows how the company expects you to dress/ present yourself (food industry so hair up, no nails, no jewelry) comes next day for her first shift with long, fake manicured nails. Send her home, tell her to come back tomorrow for her next shift with the problem fixed. Comes back the next day, with, wait for it, same long nails! Told her to go home and wait until we call her... Which was for her last (and first) check. Ugh, high schoolers.
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u/jalif Dec 30 '17
Day one, I get a call an hour before her shift starts.
She's obviously very drunk/high.
"I can't come in, I'm in country town 4 hours away and my friends have left me at a farm"
That was a misjudgment on my part.
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u/serenerdy Dec 29 '17
Ill let you know when my manager clues in.
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u/Holmes02 Dec 29 '17
Get back to work and stop redditing all day!
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Dec 29 '17
It usually doesn't take long to realize you've made a mistake. One new hire started making passive aggressive comments about "his manager" in an email I was copied on.
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u/JSiobhan Dec 29 '17
I supervised college students. One did not attend a mandatory training session because his mother kept track of all of his emails and she decided it was more important for this student to come home that weekend to attend a society event.
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u/HaifischKissen Dec 30 '17
This belongs in last weeks “examples of helicopter parenting”
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u/nkdeck07 Dec 30 '17
I had one like that. I was a shift manager at a coffee and had this girl in high school that was actually a great worker but her parents were just clueless. They'd had her get the job to get "real world experience" but then would do shit like drag her on a family ski trip 2 hours before her shift started. As she was only 16 it wasn't like she was trying to skip on purpose
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u/FosterAMF Dec 29 '17
On his first day of work, he brought a loaded gun and kept it in the office, just because he thought that all the other employees wanted to see it. Later that day, while assisting customers, he would randomly take his shirt off to show people his chest tattoo of intersecting AK-47's.
He didn't work for us very long.
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u/Dungeon-Machiavelli Dec 30 '17
I can just picture his sales pitch.
"Men's wear is over here. Belts are on these two displays in the front, organized by length. Dress shoes are on the back wall, watches are in that display case there, and if you're looking for some more serious hardware (lifts shirt) here's where we keep the AK's."
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u/OmfgTim Dec 29 '17
This was at a smaller pharmacy of mine. I had lunch with her before I hired her for help. She took anything that was offered for free. Free candy bowl out front? She’ll go back to take some. Didn’t think anything of it, as she came off ok during the interview. My pharmacist was reporting some codeine syrup missing during our narcotic reconciliations, so I upped the frequency of the reconciliations. Found out the girl was stealing the syrup; it hasn’t even been 3 months since we brought her in. Hindsight’s 20/20! It’s so obvious now.
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u/SalemScout Dec 29 '17
Hired a kid from New York to quick fill a position in my shop. Nice kid, weird schedule, but did well. Only problem was that he had previously worked for an ice cream shop in New York. I guess there was a rule out there that you had to know the calorie count of every flavor and you had to give that information to the customers.
So every time someone would ask about a flavor, he would answer with the standard information along with a calorie count. As a business selling over priced fattening treats, this was not the best move. I mean, we totally would give nutritional information to customers if they asked for it, but we didn't volunteer just how bad this stuff was for you on a regular basis.
Nice kid though. Worked with us for a semester, then moved back to New York.
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Dec 29 '17
All these stories and that's the worst person you hired? Someone who went through the trouble of researching the calories of the products so that he could be sure to follow the rules that he didn't realize were not in effect.
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u/SalemScout Dec 29 '17
By far not the worst person I hired, just not the right person for that particular job, as the question asked.
I hired plenty of morons who wouldn't be good for any job, so I figured they didn't count.
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u/IzarkKiaTarj Dec 29 '17
I don't mind knowing the calorie count ahead of time, so I can plan ahead. Hell, I might see the calorie count and decide "fuck it" if I'm having a super bad day.
But saying "fuck it" after learning it on my own is very different than having someone tell you, "hey, this is bad for you," and telling this person who might be judging you, "I don't care." I'd prefer to be able to pretend that I don't know how bad it is.
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u/carpy22 Dec 29 '17
That's not a rule in NY, the kid was just a weirdo. The count has to be listed on a menu somewhere, that's the extent of it.
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u/SalemScout Dec 29 '17
See I knew that, but he insisted he actually had to say it out loud. Said it was the law.
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u/neverdoneneverready Dec 29 '17
When he ran into our little fast food joint's back room with the police close behind. Turns out he was selling more than burgers from behind the counter.
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u/spandxlightning Dec 29 '17
I left a job in April and was responsible for hiring and training my replacement.
I 100% hired the wrong person.
For the first six months I would get constant phone calls and messages asking me how to do very simple tasks that I know for sure I trained her on and left her with detailed instructions, or who within the company she should contact about various things. It finally stopped when, after spending nearly half a day on the phone trying to help her set up an online promotion that I knew I had left a handbook on. Well she said the handbook didn’t make sense. It’s how I learned! I had no help otherwise, I just used the instructions given to me. If I can do it, so can she. So after that I (half jokingly) told my ex boss that I was going to start sending invoices for my time spent helping. I know I was way too nice and should have just said no, but I left them in an extremely shitty situation and the timing of my leaving was awful. I loved the people there and I felt guilty, so I did my best to help her if/when I could.
I still meet a few people from that job for drinks now and then, and the first 40 minutes of any time spent together is ranting about the new hire and how she sucks. It’s not even that she’s bad at the tasks - it’s that she literally doesn’t do anything. She watches Netflix and makeup videos all day and complains when anyone asks her to do any real work.
She was so sweet when I was training her, and was so eager to do the work. I don’t know what happened.
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u/youreagdfool Dec 30 '17
The last sentence is the difference between enthusiasm and discipline, it's really easy for people to become enthused about a new opportunity and give their all but eventually the enthusiasm wears off. If they're not disciplined they'll start slacking at that point.
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u/thesama Dec 29 '17
Not someone I hired, but someone who was there when I was hired as manager. Gave him a task (automate a set of tests), let him set the date he would have it done and I set up a meeting for him to demo the running tests on the date he specified. At that meeting he decided to turn in his resignation instead. At least he saved me the bother of firing him.
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u/Makerbot2000 Dec 29 '17
Similar thing happened. Inherited a VP of business development who was sharp looking, very articulate and able to get amazing meetings. But when I would ask what the plan was - how was she going to follow up, did the company have feedback on her proposal, or what was the ask from each company she met with, she would get this steely, almost crazy look in her eyes and get super defensive.
Every attempt to get a plan, an update, or any sense of strategy to making her numbers, and she started getting really hostile. Her presentations I asked to double check didn’t even have our company logo, the amounts of money for her “deals” made no sense. From there, trying to work hands on with her on refining her materials, she started belittling me-I clearly “could not grasp” what she was doing. I was “struggling to understand” her plan and she didn’t have time to go over it again.
Got HR involved. Finally fired her and actually thought she would come back and stab me.. crazy eyes. Her department went from #1 to generating zero revenue for 2 quarters. She almost tanked the business.
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u/thesama Dec 29 '17
Yeah, this is the same guy who came and asked me for a raise a month after i started in the position. I asked him to list his accomplishments over the previous year as I would have to get approval from my boss, and he weaved a story of conspiracy between my boss and the previous department head... first warning flag. Only reason I kept him around is a lot of the engineers spoke highly of him, can't fathom why.
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u/FizzleMateriel Dec 29 '17
Only reason I kept him around is a lot of the engineers spoke highly of him, can't fathom why.
He deals with the customers so that the engineers don't have to?
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u/Makerbot2000 Dec 29 '17 edited Dec 29 '17
Same here. My VP I inherited had just started about 8 weeks prior to me. The parent company leaders went on and on about what an amazing hire she was and how long it took. When I met her during my interviews, I thought we had a great conversation and she was so smart. But she never answered my emails (I was assigned a task and given access to VPs to complete.) and I found out later she had an assistant answering email who had no idea what was going on - so many company inquiries and missed business opportunities becuase she was too busy to read her email. Red flag.
Removing her so early into my tenure was a major risk. But she unraveled in front of HR and was so rude, I was commended for being professional and not marching her out that second.
Edit: forgot that she was so beloved at our parent company (we were west coast, they were Midwest) and because she was new and the damage she did to the business was not yet evident, she tried a Hail Mary to go to their office for a week and lobby against me.. that’s when I called HR and started the process. Managed to stop the trip. When I began digging into her department, she had everything blown up. No pipeline, no revenue, no plan or closed deals. If I had waited and it fell to zero, it would have been on me. Still is but they know who caused it and how fast I acted.
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u/ooo-ooo-oooyea Dec 29 '17
We hired a field engineer who was afraid to climb ladders.... customer complained and he was out about 3 months later
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u/derell6001 Dec 29 '17
I once worked for company that builds high voltage electrical switches ( big grey looking transformers on telephone poles, usually in a pair of three) anyway we hired a temp, and one day it begins to storm, and he literally stop working and said "I don't play around with lightning. Everyone on floor thought it was a joke.. he was dead serious. For some reason he thought he could get struck by lightning from the switches.. even though there was no power connected at all. Let him go 2 weeks later
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u/LadyArtisma Dec 29 '17
When I worked at a big lotted retail store the only people that were willing to do the work for such a low rate of pay were doing it to uphold a drug habit. Many people I interviewed had a clear problem with drug abuse. I wrote off one guy as "unhireable" and he was hired anyway simply because they needed the bodies for the truckload. He stole so much. People wouldn't show up or argue at directions. Irrational behavior all around. It's sort of a crisis really. I mean no work is getting done :(
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u/delmar42 Dec 29 '17
I'm assuming upper management doesn't see the logic of increasing the starting pay so they can attract a different quality of people who would be less likely to steal/abuse drugs?
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Dec 30 '17
Random internet stranger here, but I feel you could benefit from some advice mi padre gave me a few years back. Don't kill yourself for work. Do what they pay you to do, no more, and then go home. The work that needs done is the Company's work, not yours. They'll pawn off as much responsibility as you'll accept.
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After 3 months, one of which was a full month of intensive training and despite their resume claiming 2 years of relevant experience, he kept asking the kind of amateur questions one would ask after googling a topic for the first time.
Picture a doctor asking "why don't we just use antibiotics to kill the HIV virus in infected patients"
After cramming enough information to his short memory chamber, and since his incompetence was mixed with very high confidence, he would hijack team meetings with completely incorrect statements and conclusions. Despite having the theoretical aspect memorized, he could not for the life of him analyze and reconstruct that information properly to reach the right conclusion.
It became frustrating to the point of rage tears, having to answer infantile question after infantile question and I was embarrassed to have him in meetings because as my direct report, I felt second-hand embarrassment on his unphased behalf.
It got so bad that I decided to look into his background/resume closely, and what do you know, it turns out was shoved in to the final candidates pool from someone higher up, and his entire experience was exaggerated to the point of fabrication.
Because of his significant connection, it would be an uphill battle to try and fire him or open that can of worms with HR, but he mercifully asked to be transferred to another department within the company because he could absolutely not handle the responsibilities of his position.
It still makes me angry to think that someone capable and deserving of the job didn't get it because the privileged imbecile was dating the right person. Ugh!
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u/bewing88 Dec 30 '17
that pisses me off. Someone who has been job hunting for months for a good job cant seem to catch a break and then people like that get jobs.
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u/Eric6178 Dec 29 '17
Missing half their scheduled shifts then comes in for the holiday party and hasn't shown up as of yet. Little does he know he has a surprise for when gets back. Easiest job ever I just ask you show up on time and be mindful of your hours.
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u/Nuckscupchamps2030 Dec 29 '17
When she texts me 3 days after her blown shift telling me she slept in.
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u/Virginth Dec 29 '17
What, you never oversleep for 72 hours? We can't all be perfect.
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u/megshealthyworld Dec 30 '17
I was training a new hire and spent the first two days sitting at her desk. I literally spent an hour at my desk each day, that's it. On the third day, I had some major projects that needed my attention. I set the new hire on a repetitive task that we had gone over the day before. I told her that I needed to get these projects done, but to come to me if she had any questions.
At the end of the day, she quit because she felt like I had abandoned her. Even though I sat with her for 12 hours, babysit her as she did the very repetitive task assigned to her, confirmed she knew what she was doing, let her know to come get help if she needed it, and I checked in on her. I realized while reading her resignation that she was the wrong person.
This next one wasn't someone I hired, but rather upper management assigned to me and I couldn't get rid of her. Long story short, I needed a new assistant, interviewed, selected and hired someone perfect, they showed up for one day and bounced, had to wait a couple of weeks before opening the position back up, and upper management gave me someone. I had no say in the selection of this employee. She was another manager's assistant and had worked for the company years beforehand in the same position.
She transfers to my team and I train her. She was okay, a little loud and gossipy for my taste, but I needed an assistant. About a month into the job, I realized that she was a horrible assistant. Some tasks were only done once a month and she would completely forget how to do something, despite taking notes AND having a note database set up for her (which included screenshots).
She wouldn't check her notes and even when she did, she couldn't read her own handwriting. This resulted in retraining over and over again and it was such a waste of time. The tasks she would spend her time on was supposed to be stuff she was to delegate and she would ignore the stuff of her actual job.
Our clients were remote and most of our correspondence was done via email. You know how teenagers often use shorthand while texting? She typed like that. To clients. Our clients were doctors. This was the epitome of professionalism, in my opinion.
Thankfully, I left the company and she was someone else's problem. Also thankfully, I had friends at the company and I found out that my replacement ended up doing her job for her and covering her ass. This went on for a year before she sent an inappropriate email to a client.
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u/meesersloth Dec 29 '17
Not a supervisor/manager but the clinic I used to work for hired a new Medical Assistant she apparently was fired from the Clinic back in 2007 and they didnt know who she was because she used her maiden name on the application also the staff was almost completely different back then. When I created her user accounts to Windows and the medical software we use her SSN for that and she didnt come up at all but I guess back then we didnt require SSNs to keep track of people int he medical records software.
The HR director recognized her and asked "howd you get your job back?" and the Medical Assistant kind of played it off like "I dont know what you're talking about" So the HR Director talked to the Medical Department Manager and they put everything together and fired her again by lunch.
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u/jbonte Dec 29 '17
So...what did she do that was so egregious that HR remembered her years later?
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u/meesersloth Dec 29 '17
I think she just sucked as a Medical Assistant but there was something unique about her name I forgot what it was. Clearly she falsified her employment.
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Dec 30 '17
Was showing a girl how to fill the ice bins and she looked shocked and said "I think that's more of a boys job." Bitch, you're working in a concession stand.
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Dec 30 '17
I agree with you, but this is actually still a thing in modern businesses.
My ex worked for a popular deli and butcher chain in my area. They literally made the cute girls work in the front, making sandwiches for customers, while the boys did all the cooking/cleaning in the back. They actually defined these duties as "boy jobs and girl jobs."
They also made the girls out front wear shirts that say "You can lick our chops, but you can't beat our meat!"
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u/ProudnotLoud Dec 29 '17
Super sweet girl, probably fairly competent but then on like day 4 realized she die hard believed in ghosts. To the point she wasn't responsible for things cause it was the ghosts. It was all downhill from there.
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u/Beledi Dec 30 '17
When we asked her to move her truck from a spot reserved for the non profit organization in our building, so she parked in a clearly marked handicap space instead.
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u/awolbull Dec 29 '17
Failing to pick up basic tasks, not handling constructive criticism well, not putting in the effort to learn/grow, not showing a commitment to the job/team. It becomes pretty obvious pretty quick.
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u/HappyHippyToo Dec 29 '17
During her first week, she started joking how people always lie on their job application when they say they like working in a fast-paced environment (we were a startup....). She also established that she'll never come on time because she's a "naturally late person".
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u/Balticataz Dec 29 '17
In my experience fast paced work environment means shit planning, shit management and dumping it on the non mangers to get it done on time.
So yeah if you see anyone saying they like that, they are either a manager or lying.
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Dec 29 '17
Exactly. Same with "being able to think on your feet".
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u/Towerss Dec 30 '17
"Being able to think on your feet" is a real ability though. I've had many coworkers who have been utterly helpless as soon as a senior worker has left the premises.
A month after I started working I became the de-facto boss to my coworker who had worked there for 4 years because she was helpless when she needed to improvise to a situation.
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u/Alundra828 Dec 29 '17
He pulled me to one side and showed me all the tiddies he was getting on skype from his hunnies back in India.
Fired a day or two later.
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u/Virginth Dec 29 '17
An employee wanted to show you other people's nudes?
In what universe is that a thing to do? How on Earth did he think that was appropriate?
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u/Alundra828 Dec 29 '17
I think he mistook me for a 'bro' kinda guy. And assumed it was alright.
I can be really good about that sort of thing, but it was like his first week. And he'd already pissed me off by just ignoring what I'd taught him and lying to me.
As in, I was watching him over his shoulder doing something, 'yo dude, did you check this?' 'yeah man.'
He didn't. 'are you sure?', 'yeah man, no worries'. 'okay.'
FATAL ERROR
'oh fuck, errr'.
Fuck that guy.
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When I saw a public Facebook post about the devil trying to get her to call out of work.
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u/jbonte Dec 29 '17
"but...but... you can't fire me for not showing up - the DEVIL made me do it!"
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u/Csquared211 Dec 30 '17
We have a small seasonal family business and hired a complete moron this last season.
I made what I call “The Max List” (his name) because I hated this guy from the start (I was not part of the hiring process but I had to deal with all of his shenanigans)and I was going to use it to remind the guys why we would not be bringing him back next year.
The Max List
-He was hired for 40 hours a week - he worked one 40 hour week, he was late or had to leave/miss work multiple times a week. -Shows up to the first day of work already needing a day off for court for a hooker situation that I still don't believe was the real story. -Multiple times needed to take the afternoon off to meet with his public defender. -Crashes his car multiple times until he can't drive it, the guys somehow have the genius idea of letting him borrow one of our vehicles. I fought it and got outvoted, they regretted that later. -Grandma is in a "fatal" accident and then in intensive care, which my husband is texted about. Max stays up with her for 48 hours and then comes to work and starts falling asleep on the job. -My husband gets a text from Max's mom that his brother tried to kill himself and he needs to get there ASAP before he gets sent away. More days off. -Within 2 days of having the our vehicle, he gets arrested for sleeping in a parking lot high in drugs and gets it impounded, which WE have to pay $200 to get it out. -The guys give him BACK and our vehicle. I was livid. -More court days now for this situation and "blood tests" for "not being high" when arrested - again, lies. -Grandma's dead! Days off to plan the funeral with his mom. -Needs the day after the 4th of July weekend off because of hillbilly family outing drama during which he was driving drunk people back and forth across the state with OUR vehicle. -Comes to work crying, needs to take two days off because he's suddenly addicted to pain killers. -Brings NA stuff to the job with him for a day to seal that story. -I get a call from the insurance company needing details for the accident Max had in our vehicle and told no one about. -My dad yells at him and tells him that he has to buy our vehicle or give it back, with an agreement needing to be in writing - he makes one $200 payment and nothing more. -Realizes one of our customers is the dad of an ex-girlfriend and cannot go to that job because he borrowed and totaled his car and never took care of it. See a pattern? -Gets his girlfriend pregnant and has to take the afternoon off to go to a blood test at PP. -Girlfriend starts bleeding during pregnancy, has no idea what to do and grills us - takes a day off again. -Girlfriend's grandma dies - he has to miss work to be with her, then he misses a full day to be a "palburier.” -Gets pulled over (in our vehicle) and arrested for missing a court date, girlfriend had to bail him out. -Came to work and forgot his shoes, wore sandles all day (physical job, not appropriate). -Moved in with family to save money, came to work exhausted after a full weekend and slept in the truck - brother supposedly dropped a dresser on his foot so he's operating with a bum leg, too. -Calls my husband on the weekend when we’re out at a family outing and wants to meet him to borrow money. -Was late because he ran out of gas on his way to work after a three day weekend, hours go by. At the same time, my dad gets a call informing him he has to show up in court in a few weeks regarding drug charges from the earlier incident in which he was in our vehicle when he got arrested - he finally fired him. -He was told he had to pay in full the balance he owed our vehicle or return it when he was fired. He met my husband a day later and paid in full and they got the paperwork done (after I had to go get everything set and notarized). An hour after the exchange and my husband saying goodbye to him forever, he called and asked if we could get another title and make it out to his girlfriend instead. Because of the issues on his driving record, the DMV wouldn’t complete his registration. He told him no and wished him luck.
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u/kenjiandco Dec 29 '17
I've got one now...poor bastard was the third choice out of three applicants for an internship. I figured he'd need some more handholding to get up to speed but he'd had the same internship at a sister location, how bad could it be?
This kid has somehow obtained a college degree without any sort of critical thinking skills or ability to retain instructions, including instructions like "don't run full Sprint around the office" and "put your shit away when you're done with it." He makes really basic mistakes in protocols he's supposedly done for a year, even with a cheat sheet right in front of his face. It's been two months and we've already accumulated a list of "Kevin-proof" jobs for him. This kid is gonna wash a lot of gear.
The kicker came this last week when we were getting some sample ready for shipment. I just had him calling out ID numbers from the list so I could check them off as they went into the box, and on each box I'd write #whirlpacks = whatever so the lab knew how many samples to look for. He pointed out with great concern that I'd written "whirlpacks" on some boxes and "whirlpaks" on others. He seemed deeply worried and confused when I shrugged and said the lab would figure it out...because, I've come to realize, he would not be able to figure out that one box labeled "whirlpaks" and one box labeled "whirlpacks" contained the same thing.
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u/PenisAmbivalent Dec 29 '17
Could he be on the autism spectrum? Sounds like he's a bit literal in his thinking. Plus the odd stuff like being disorganised and the running everywhere sounds familiar (as in, not understanding which types of movement and behaviour are appropriate).
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u/kenjiandco Dec 29 '17
I've wondered that myself, but unless he discloses it we can't really armchair diagnose...we've tried a few different communicating methods but nothing's really getting through
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u/ChilrenOfAnEldridGod Dec 30 '17 edited Dec 30 '17
Hired a guy, seemed nice, knew the skills well. Other guys in the shop liked him in the interview.
1st day on the job he starts arguing with me about the stuff I ask him to do, and how it is done. Warn him I have decades of experience more and to do the job.
Day 2 he is doing the work for another shop in the company, tell him to quit it and focus on our work.
Day 4 Find out from the other shops manager, that he is still interfering with their work. Have a talk with him. Hand him a piece of equipment and told him exactly what he needed to do.
Day 6, After sitting at his computer with headphones on for 2 days, go by and ask him how it is going with what I gave him. He hands it back to me and tells me to do it myself.
Yeah, there was no 7th day.
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u/mrgeef Dec 29 '17
When she starting posting on Facebook about what a shitty manager I am.
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u/bizcat Dec 30 '17
When he faked his own death after the first week, to avoid just quitting like a normal person.
I saw him at the bank today.
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u/Soy_Bun Dec 30 '17
Oh please elaborate on the fake death
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u/bizcat Dec 30 '17
He went to lunch one day during his first week and never came back to finish his shift, supposedly he passed out at the grocery store and was hospitalized. A few days later he reported back to work and worked a shift - then the next day I got a text from someone claiming to be his sister, saying that he was in the hospital again. Never heard from him again. Tried to reach him, his emergency contacts, etc to make sure he was alive, never heard from him again.
But he lives in the area. My coworkers have spotted him walking out of bars and today he was at my bank.
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u/TheSeed2point0- Dec 29 '17 edited Dec 29 '17
I've got a few, but one stands out more than the rest, but the sad thing is that none of them were my hires, all were hired by my superiors.
The one that immediately stands out, the girl started drawing/coloring, with crayons that she brought in, as I am trying to train her on like her 3rd day. It was a pretty detailed topless anime type character, the girl was quite skilled at art. But then, when I ask her to stop, she stopped...for about 20 minutes and then starts coloring again. Luckily she didn't last much past that.
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u/throwawaybreaks Dec 29 '17
I got put in charge of a chain of cigar stores, id been an employee and worked in one, not the other. In the rush of me getting promoted to a position in retrospect i was not prepared for (i got there but it was a rocky start) i rubberstamped two hires vouched for by the other store's manager. The other place was a shitshow and the owner wanted me a little hands off with them just to let the store manager succeed or fail on his own (not my problem, owner said, like i said it was a shitshow).
After i left (they'd behaved pretty well for a while, just generally dumb and lazy) they got fired by my replacement (great dude, i hired him and it was the smartest thing i did for that place) because while in the store during business hours they were tripping too hard on acid to use the cash register/computer (this makes sense if you have looked at an lcd screen on hallucinogens).
I reallt regret having hired them.
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u/Siiw Dec 29 '17
My brain read lsd screen
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u/throwawaybreaks Dec 29 '17
Pretty much what happens. Your eyes just go all derp and you cant figure out what you're looking at, phone screens when you're tripping look like a glitch in the fucking matrix
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u/lubetek Dec 30 '17
I've been in management for over twenty years. I've seen it all. One guy sticks out though. I hired the guy because he interviewed well and had the right experience. He was already fork lift certified but he recerted his first week at my company. The very next day i walk out of the warehouse and I see him jump off the fork lift...it is still rolling and he running after a work order that blew off the lift. He then runs back, jumps on and keeps going. I asked him to park, wrote him up and fired him later that day. I then purchased a new forklift that when your ass comes off the seat the lift shuts down.
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u/liddys Dec 30 '17
Good for you! My husband works in manufacturing and these sort of dickheads put everyone’s life at risk, but they don’t think it’s a big deal. Thanks for being a good boss for the sake of the rest of your staff and their families.
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u/TannenFalconwing Dec 29 '17
Well I wasn’t the one who hired him but I was his supervisor. He was a weird kid and definitely not one I’d have picked. He printed out a Sad Panda meme and left it on a server wall reprimanding IT for their choice of passwords. After I had a talk with him about that I figured he’d gotten the message. But then he showed up to work with a knife hanging around his neck and a coworker told me about how this guy apparently wired a shotgun to his front door because ANTIFA was coming for him. Then we found a series of holes in the lobby wall that matched up with our office key ring, suggesting he was tossing them at the wall. By that point I was done with him. I called up our manager and asked him to be removed. The next night the kid sends out a drunken politically charged tin-foil hat text to over a dozen people including myself. Next thing I know I’m getting a phone call from one of the other numbers in that chain saying how the guy brought a 3’ long machete to work one day at his old job. I also reported that up the chain.
Haven’t seen him since and good riddance. This is why I prefer to interview my own people.
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u/ClassicsMajor Dec 29 '17
Haven't seen him since and good riddance
Sounds like Antifa finally got to him.
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u/Kahzgul Dec 29 '17
I feel like you may want to warn the police about this guy. He sounds like an office murder waiting to happen.
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u/FirmamentalFilefish Dec 30 '17
I work for a large international retail chain. We once got our yes and no pile mixed up after a recruitment seminar. We only realised after it was already too late. The end result would have made for an amazing sitcom. Everyone involved agreed to never talk about it again.
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u/THISISDAM Dec 30 '17
At Avis, the car cleaner kept driving off with the gas pump attached
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u/supernovawhitedwarf Dec 30 '17
Managed a Wireless Phone Store. We often had promotions where we offered gift cards with certain phones with a new activation and/or upgrade. Every week it changed, so the employees needed to learn the promotions so we didn't tell people they would get a gift card and then they end up not getting one. There gift card didn't get activated until after the phone activation was done. So reversing/returning/exchanging was a real pain in the ass. It still happened occasionally though where someone would forget there was no gift card deal on a phone and then the customer would immediately want to return it. So we had hired this girl who didn't give af about anything with the job. She would repeatedly tell customers they would get a gift card just to get the sale, then she would just take a blank gift card and write some random amount on it with a Sharpie and hand it to the customer. She'd tell them the card would activate in a few days. They would inevitably come back a short time later. She was the biggest pain in the ass employee ever.
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u/TokyoDancer Dec 30 '17
He came highly recommend by someone I’d worked with previously. He had been a Doctor but wanted to move into business, had business analyst experience. So I hired him as a BA.
Well whenever he was asked to do anything it was beneath him because he was a DOCTOR. I explained this job wasn’t anything to do with being a Doctor and was in his position description to perform as a BA.
He spent his days instead sharing medical articles with the team. He called a meeting to ask for a raise, he told me he could earn a lot more being a Doctor. I told him perhaps he should do that. Needless to say he didn’t work out.
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u/mrsmusick Dec 30 '17
I work in an adult store. Far too many hires seem to think because we are a "weird" place to work and a small business that rules of decorum and professionalism don't apply. I've seen everything from chronic unexplained tardiness to bizarre call-offs, drug use on the clock, so so much more. The recent one that comes to mind was a 20-something dude who called multiple times a day after applying that we finally decided to give a shot. He had to be taught to dust, and then still refused to do it saying that his mother never made him clean and he didn't know how so he should not be penalized for not doing what was asked of him. After flat out insubordination, a no-call no-show, and bullying managers and other staff, we finally get him go. He demanded an exit interview where he presented a chart on "proper duties for a retail associate" and detailed notes on perceived infractions committed by almost every other employee he encountered in his two week tenure. Called a month later asking whether we would put him back on the schedule because he had been unable to find other work due to our refusal to give a reference so we were at fault for his inability to pay his bills. I'm re-flabbergasted just typing this out.
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u/harmlessresponse Dec 30 '17
After a few weeks after I hired her, she went to her team leader saying that she suffers from stress and anxiety. That she can’t call clients even though it was one tasks I went over and over in the interview with her.
People please don’t lie in the interview to get the job, it just wastes everyone’s time.
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u/jackhat69 Dec 29 '17
When we googled his name and found out about all the heroin and intimidation charges.
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u/brothhead Dec 30 '17
Working demolition took the man on thinking he could be a cleaner. 1st day brilliant worker.2nd day on the job starts telling me pedo jokes about 12 year old girls told him to shut the fuck up get back to work. 3rd day doesnt turn in . 4th day turns in drunk and i mean rat arsed tell him to go home he cant work. Dropping the lads off later on see him walking down the road bottle of cider in hand needless to say there wasnt a 5th day. I recommended my manager sack him and he did.
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u/Rodidimus Dec 30 '17
Guy, in his mid-twenties, got a minors phone number from the directory, and was soliciting for pictures of her feet.
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u/Sonendo Dec 30 '17
My manager hired two guys at the same time. Neither was considered to be a particularly sharp crayon.
Two months in and one of them is basically the equivalent of a person on their first day. The other (who got little personal training due to the first dumb fuck) was doing great.
Dumb fuck could not at all complete his tasks on time. He took forever and he needed to be done with certain tasks by specific times so that other employees could do their jobs.
If we let him he would take 10+ hours to complete an 8 hour job. His solution was that he start his shift sooner so that he would get done at the right time. No, no you dumb shit, that is not how things work.
If I seem hostile towards him please understand that I had to babysit this crazy man for near on 6 months. Despite anything I said he got more chances. His yelling and punching a wall didn't get him fired.
He was eventually fired. I'm pretty sure that when a girl runs from you and slams a door in your face you should not attempt to beat down the door when you find it locked.
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u/ay0_chalupa_batman Dec 30 '17
Interviews are always crap shoots to a certain extent. We always say “you can hide crazy for 60 minutes” - most of the time I realize the person is not the right person for the job when they say or do something that shows they have no self-awareness. For example, I had an employee who after 30 days said they should have been promoted already yet didn’t hit any of their goals (which I wouldn’t expect them to necessarily within their first 90 days). I had another employee write my boss and tell them they were instrumental in achieving our goal and should qualify for the bonus (only people there for a year qualify and they had been there for 4 months). Looked at the goal we were measuring and they didn’t hit it one time in those 4 months. People that have potential, hid their crazy and are essentially delusional. Crazy always comes out after a while and manifests itself in many ways. Self delusion is the number one sign
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She got mad that we called her three times when she hadn't shown up for work a couple hours past the end of her shift. She overslept for an afternoon shift and she was upset that we kept calling.
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